'Killing themselves' in the sense that if they don't the get all the moderate republicans on board with this they won't have an Unified North needed to win; Granted, perhaps that issue starts to resolve itself if the now mostly Southern Union Armies start occupying areas north (I think there...
Anyway, now that I think about it this could end badly for the radical republicans; They either lose the peace or are forced to get much harsher than they were OTL to secure it, or they alienate too many more moderates trying to get them to just bide their time for 4 more years when the...
If the North won I imagine the aftermath would be even uglier than OTLs, I think. Imagine being a White Southerner and having the North rise up, then instead of going their own way they invade you turning your state into a military district. Of course, there might be important peculiarities to...
So what I am getting from this thread is that the Union would be at a severe disadvantage here, which why obviously they calmed things down OTL; They could win or at least push a long-term Pyrrhic victory for the British if they are quick enough with their Army but their economy is now a ticking...
I imagine Europeans will start taking an interest in seeing if the can get more influence in the Americas with the USA split, and the UK will have to decide if they will accept this, formalize devisions of spheres of influence with other great powers, or retake the mantle of 'monroe doctrine'...
Interesting, would it have been possible for Japan to hold off on war against China and for China to eventually give up on taking those areas back? How long would Japan have to hold onto Manchuria and Demchugdongrub's Inner Mongolia for them to be seen as 'separate states' by the wider world?
So the end result is a CSA and USA that bitterly hates each other but also hate the UK for different reasons? That sounds like an interesting timeline actually.
Well, can all of the British subjects be lumped together into an average? I would argue that how the British exactly treated their subjects ranged wildly on who those subjects were and what Governments controlled the UK, so trying to "average" out which Empire did worse seems... reductive.
One of the things that makes this touchy I think is that the British Empire means different things to different people; For some it is hard to get worse than OTL unless you want to push right into Genocide while for others Dystopia would imply things getting worse for the British themselves in...
Will the Americans eventually start trying to claim the legacy of the British Empire? Such as getting the BEIC accept their King and much later on getting a colonial empire of their own?
I do find it interesting how the fact North America is a monarchy seems to be helping them cooperate with...
Fair enough. Though if the Boers were not British subjects why did the British conquer them?
Also I guess that brings up the question of what exactly the British did to win the ARW in this scenario.
From an American standpoint, I'm reminded of the Boer internment camps as how harsh the British could get to their own subjects, so I'm inclined to think this could get bad very quickly.
Now perhaps that is a completely unfair sentiment (because we are talking about a POD in the 18th century and...
I think even if the Union imploded early on, Louisiana would still be dealing with a demographic crisis as Americans trek west.
The French could always try to push them out but that could get very bloody.
Of course, there also could be an attempt at a solution where France lets Protestant...