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Do you mean something like the liga veneta? it was and is a joke, not something serious. I mean, italy is and was pretty solid as a nation state. It survived the most humiliating and crushing defeat in ww2 and there was no serious independence movement. The lega never had a chance, nor had...

You have this venice fetish:D, but its not really a possibility. Venice, with its extremely poor economy (the city was rich, the rest was poor even by the standards of italy), rotten oligarchic system end virtually non existent social mobility was definitely unable to defend itself by the time...

It is not easy: after 1815 the unification of italy was probably just a matter of time. Maybe what you need is a victorious Napoleon which keeps two satellite states in northern and southern italy. Or you can avoid the french revolution, butterflyng away nationalism in the peninsula.

It happened.

The soviet union was kept togheter by an ideology which expressely denied nationalism. When communism died, also nationalism revived. In the ottoman empire islamism could fill that role, but could also fail to do that.

Are there similar federations in otl?

Then if not an universal arab identity it could be a regional one. I dont see why the ottoman empire, a place incredibly diverse in terms of religion, ethnicity, culture should be immune the the waves of fragmentation which hit multinational countries for all the XX century, also because the...

Why? arab nationalism developed in other arab countries whitout the british propagating it.

To believe that arabs would never become nationalists because in 1914 they werent is stupid. Looking at evolutions of similar situations is more useful than just wishful thinking about the ottoman empire stayng the same during the decades.

No, it is better to compare what happened otl in similar situations than just stay still and look at 1914 situation as if it was going to stay that way.

Oil alone never kept any state wealthy. Russia has plenty of oil but it collapsed. True, it is not SURE that the OE will collapse, but what i want to say is that the fact that arabs werent fertile ground fo nationalism in 1914 doesnt mean that they wont be forever.

The reason is that no multinational empire (not nations with minorities, for those states are based on a completely different concept) survived the XX century but china (which has a huge ethnic majority) and russia (which had to let go most of its minorities). Why should the OE have been...

The point is that people who claims that the OE will remain united think that the situation of 1914 will stay the same forever. But nationalism is a virus which grows with time; areas culturally backward like the arabic parts of the ottoman empire would have been more and more influenced by...

Very, very cool.

If flower wars were consciously used as an instrument to train the army (didnt actual wars exist? why to use such a odd thing like the flower wars?), to ensure aztec superiority (how are supposed flower wars to do that instead of real wars? it would be like letting olympics decide who is in the...