The Himmelstuermer - did it exist?

zeezack

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I am working on a documentary and I have an opportunity to interview Glenn Martin of the Martin P12 Jetpack.

I have found some interesting links to the Himmelstuermer project. Did it really exist? Did the American's confiscate basic prototypes? What would it have meant if these were mass-produced for the war and for now in terms of Commercial applications?


http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/HIMMELSTURMER.htm
http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/the-himmelstuermer-flightpack
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/ho...oled-the-internet-with-nazi-jetpack-soldiers/

Does anyone have any patent jpg's for these pre-1950 jetpacks?
 
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zeezack

What stopped them from looking at the idea of strapping rockets to the backs of soldiers? Not saying it wouldn't be very dangerous. How do you know? Also - does anyone have information on any patents on Jetpacks prior to 1950's?
 

Saphroneth

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zeezack said:
What stopped them from looking at the idea of strapping rockets to the backs of soldiers? Not saying it wouldn't be very dangerous. How do you know? Also - does anyone have information on any patents on Jetpacks prior to 1950's?
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Fuel requirements for lifting a person are too extensive.
There'd be a giant mothering rocket engine firing within inches of the person's skin.
Pulse jets are hard enough to make large, let alone small.
As one of your links points out, the whole thing is a fake created by a holocaust denier who also contends that the Nazis had UFOs.
 

zeezack

I see thank you for the information.

Well what about the 1919 jetpack? Does anyone know what it could have looked like - if it was designed/built? Trying to get a visual understanding - I'd imagine it was a direct rocket on your back approach?

Andreyev[edit]

The first jet pack was developed in 1919 by the Russian inventor Aleksandr Fyodorovich Andreyev. The project was thought-of highly by Nikolai Rynin and technology historians Yu. V. Biryukov and S. V. Golotyuk. Later it was issued a patent but apparently was not built or tested.[1]

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=A...=1280&bih=899&dpr=1#q=Andreyev+jetpack+patent
http://suziquazar.com/2013/05/sunday-science-dude-wheres-my-jetpack/
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...dir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=jetpack andreev&f=false

Hyperthetically - if the jetpack did get made - however dangerous - could it have helped change the course of ww2? If the Nazi's had jetpack tech
 
Michel Van

Michel Van

zeezack said:
I have found some interesting links to the Himmelstuermer project. Did it really exist? Did the American's confiscate basic prototypes? What would it have meant if these were mass-produced for the war and for now in terms of Commercial applications?
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to real thing
after the WW2 allot story were tell about Nazi super weapon

one was that Nazi build a rocketbelt for jumps over river or other obstacles
it consist out to two rockets engine, one on back the second attached with fueltanks on chest
with hand valves control flow rate of fuel and so thrust
the other were a Jetpack called "Himmelstürmer" (Heaven stormer) with singel Schmidt pulseengine
but this had to be use by Wehrmacht engineer units only for cross minefields, barbed wire obstacles, and bridgeless waters.
NEVER during this project was this intended for infantry use.
So those Belts bekame a myth like Nazi Flying Saucer

this here is very bad photoshop of a model kid to look vintage nazi stile photo
the maker got a F form me
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here photo of that model
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even had the US found the prototypes, after study those things for 10 minutes, they would it put away in this warehouse….
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