As 2/3rds of Kentucians supported the Union it is a non-starter for it to be a voluntary part of the CSA.I'd say Kentucky. I haven't lived in Missouri long, but while I've been here and reading up on its history, it seems that the people were pretty adamant about staying out of the Confederacy (and keeping the Union troops out as well, it seems.)
I don't think the Union would have 'given' anything to the Confederacy, though. Letting them keep the states that already seceded would be the best the Confeds could hope for, and even then West Virginia ducked out.
As 2/3rds of Kentucians supported the Union it is a non-starter for it to be a voluntary part of the CSA.
Missouri broke the same IIRC.
I agree, but I figured in any scenario the CSA would have to control some part of one of the states in question as a 'bargaining chip'. In this scenario, I can see them holding some eastern corner of Kentucky (itself highly unlikely.)
Was the eastern corner even Confederate sympathizing?
Also, bargaining chip? The Confederacy would be have to be wildly successful to not have to use any bargaining chips from such things to simply retain all its pre-Union response territory.
I'm trying to answer the question without picking at the faults of the question itself. And I don't believe the Cumberland area was sympathetic, no. Could be wrong, not up on my inner regional civil war history.
Fair enough.
Though the question does raise the question, by its nature, of how the Confederacy is in a position to ask for either.
The Cumberland River area in Kentucky is the center of the state, the Confederate soldiers (mainly The Orphans Brigade) came from this area and The Bluegrass area. Then so did a like number or more Union troops The far east (Appalachia) part of Kentucky I know not for sure.I'm trying to answer the question without picking at the faults of the question itself. And I don't believe the Cumberland area was sympathetic, no. Could be wrong, not up on my inner regional civil war history.
we could just say its a TL-191 setup for simplicity, early victories along with foreign recognition and aidFair enough.
Though the question does raise the question, by its nature, of how the Confederacy is in a position to ask for either.
The Cumberland River area in Kentucky is the center of the state, the Confederate soldiers (mainly The Orphans Brigade) came from this area and The Bluegrass area. Then so did a like number or more Union troops The far east (Appalachia) part of Kentucky I know not for sure.
A funny aside Jeff Davis was born in what is now Fairview,Christian County Kentucky. His state park and monument ( similar but half the height of the Washington Monument) is in Todd County Ky on the Christian County line. Todd county voted 2 to 1 against the articles of succession.
Of course Davis may not have been a natural born citizen and just claimed to be fron KY you see if he was born there his Cavalry under Lyon's Bde of Forrest's command burnt the Christian County Courthose in Hopkinsville Ky during the Nashville Campaign.
Thought you might have been thinking Cumberland Gap which isn't in Kentucky. You can see my problem as Kentuckians are going to think River not town when you just say Cumberland. Unless you is one of the few peeples from C City.I was talking about the Cumberland city area, which is in the southeast portion.
Thought you might have been thinking Cumberland Gap which isn't in Kentucky. You can see my problem as Kentuckians are going to think River not town when you just say Cumberland. Unless you is one of the few peeples from C City.
we could just say its a TL-191 setup for simplicity, early victories along with foreign recognition and aid