Actually if the population is roughly equal to OTL's Vancouver Island would have a population of roughly 760,000 people. That is just about the population of South Dakota. Making it larger than Wyoming, Vermont, North Dakota, and Alaska. And without Southern California within the US in TTL there is a chance that the population of the Pacific Coast is slightly larger in the area around what is McKenzie and Grey Island in TTL (it will certainly have a larger population than Jacques and perhaps Gitchigumee in the long run).
Yes, but in the 120-odd years since SD became a state OTL its population has barely doubled from the 350,000-odd it had at the time (if my source is to be believed). By comparison, Vancouver Island's population has boomed. The same source I am using states the entirety of British Columbia to have a population of 92,700 in 1891, at about the same time it says SD is at 348,000. There would need to be a monumental swing from OTL population figures for Vancouver to be at SD's population rather than OTL BC's, and Glen has instead only remarked that its population is "a bit higher" or words to that effect.
Maybe I'm just drunk but...
...are you ignoring my question on Memphis?
Glen is pretty much mein Gott.
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Well, there are probably cities where Souix Falls, Pierre, and Bismarck were OTL, though the names may be different. Does that help?
I will get to commenting on an possible 'American Memphis' in Kentucky.
The founder of Korsgaardism strikes again
Any hints at what this city will be named/called?
Will there be an American equivelent of Memphis in TTL Kentucky, or will we just see a super St. Louis or more important Cape Girardeau?
Paducah would be ideal for this. Actually, with the exception of the time it was known as the Atomic City, its status as a smaller city has always perplexed me. Right where two major rivers meet, surrounded by agriculture AND industry, etc.
Maybe if Paducah and Metropolis become Twin Cities ITTL they could spring up and at least equal St. Louis. Paducah's importance as a border town right on the Mississippi and Ohio rivers would inevitably lead to this, IMHO.
And of course, there's Ft. Massac. I would love to hear Glen's thoughts on how Little Egypt is developing ITTL. It's got to be much bigger as well as being far more strategic TTL.
AND NEW LONDON! I would of course prefer New Dublin, or even New Liverpool, but I still have to say I approve big time. I can't wait to see how Midtown hipsters turn out living in a city with a grandiose name like that. Maybe instead of the Pyramid, a Big Ben replica housed our sporting events and concerts?
I see New London probably being even more musically vital than Memphis is OTL. Am I far off?
I wonder how many people will think that the State of Jacques is named after Jean-Jacques Rousseau? If I remember correctly the river was originally named after a Saint, but Rousseau fits better than the Saint.
Quite a bit actually... that makes up a good chunk of what we would know as the populated part of the Dakotas... what does that mean for the western part of the Dakotas? Perhaps a Lakota majority state of some sort?
Yes. Despite Jacques being somewhat oddly shaped, it makes for a pretty good state in terms of similar terrain and issues. The other side of the Missouri really is a whole new world.
First probably means a delay in statehood for that section of the USA. A Lakota majority depends on how they react to the USA love it or leave it (to Hudson Territory) policy. IF they agree to assimilate and become US taxpaying citizens, then they will make up a good chunk initially. If they do not want to be assimilated, and insist on being a separate nation, they will have to fight (and lose, let's face it) or move north.
Yes, this USA is a bit like the Borg....
Yes, a Borg of racially-tolerent freedom lovers
The founder of Korsgaardism strikes again
Any hints at what this city will be named/called?
Indeed - now, hints would be spoilers!
It almost has to be Paducah. I see it going this way, and Glen correct me if I'm wrong. The details are yours alone, of course:
Not long after the POD a thriving community emerged at the confluence of the Tennessee and Ohio rivers on the Mississippi, a town called Pekin, as in OTL. Originally made up of natives and settlers alike, the town receives an influx of U.S. friendly Southern settlers after the revolution and, as a western settlement bordering the South and on a major trade river, receives an influx of Northern troops and in a short time, a naval base.
Now, the name can remain Pekin if you like, but I'd prefer anything but Paducah (my father is from there and I always hated the name).
Being in an even more critical location militarily TTL, I could see Fort Massac being repopulated (and renamed) and expanded, resulting in twin military base cities with ideal trade locations while also serving as a springboard to the west and a vital stop on Southern slaves' route to the north.
Following the Slaver uprising, I can see Southern expats once again settling in and around this area as well, leading initially to tensions with the high free black population but eventually resulting in a diverse cultural blend akin to OTL's Memphis.
As two culturally diverse port cities, one downriver from the other, I can see New London and this unnamed Twin City urban area becoming sister cities during times of good feeling between North and South...
Am I far offbase?