Dominion of Southern America - Updated July 1, 2018

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The reign of Pope Pius IX was the longest on record. This turned out to be a godsend for the nascent nation of the Roman Republic (comprised of the former Papal states). Pius had shown strong sympathies to the liberal cause before the outbreak of the revolution. After a rocky start, with the compromise that saw the Pope recognized as the head of state of the new Republic, Pius would oversee decades of stability, liberalization, and modernization for the nation. One thing that endeared him to the people of the Roman Republic was his humble, simple lifestyle. He lived a personal life beyond reproach, and became a model for personal integrity for his people.

With regards to reconciling the traditions of the Church with the new spirit of liberalism sweeping through the Republic, Pope Pius IX relied on his close advisor, Rosmini-Serbati. Pius also embraced and encouraged religious (though not prosetylatizing) tolerance, and is famous for opening the Jewish Ghetto of Rome.

Pope Pius IX worked with his elected cabinet in his role as head of state to create a new demarcation between the Pope's role as secular ruler of the land while also spiritual father of an international faith. While the democratically elected representatives and officials of the state would need to pledge to recognize, support, and defend the Catholic Faith, being a Cahtolic was not a requirement of candidacy, nor even an endorsement by a priest, which had been a tradition of the old Papal States. In his role as Father of the Roman Republic, Pius encouraged the use of national funds for the establishment of a robust rail system, new schools and universities, and modernization of farming methods throughout the land.

In his role as head of the church, Pius IX was to prove a strong Marian Pope, establishing that Mary was born without original sin. He also was famous for instituting the Vatican Council which gave strict limits to when and what pronouncements of the Pope fell under infallibility, the role of the Bishops in infallibility, and noted that in the Pope's secular role, infallibility did not apply. The Vatican Council also restated in the strongest terms Pope Pius IX's own papal bull regarding the prohibition of the exclusion by veto previously held by such nations as France, Spain, and Austria. France, which while still predominantly Catholic, had in the first half of the century moved away from involvement in Church politics, and made no objection. More moderate Spain had some qualms about this, but bowed to the right of the church to set the policy for the election of the pope. However, Austria-Hungary objected vociferously, leading for a time to the expulsion of the Austrian ambassador from the Roman Republic for insulting the Church.

Over his lengthy reign, Pope Pius IX created a record number of cardinals, including several from the United States of America. Pius over his thirty some-odd years of rule stacked the College of Cardinals with liberals, much to the chagrin of conservative Austria-Hungary and Prussia-Poland, and the delight of the liberal Western nations such as France. His death in 1880 set the stage for a confrontation between the aging Church conservatives of the East and the new liberals of the church.
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stevep said:
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Well apart from anything else you will still have a French influence of you're own, along with probably from other cultures as immigrants arrive. Also with a far less brutal approach to the locals you could have some input from them becoming fashionable in some quarters. Other than that however its probably going to be overwhelmingly northern European, at least unless and until the Italians and eastern Europeans start arriving in numbers.

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Northern Europeans have historically done amazing things with fiddles. And violins. Two very different instruments.
 
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Pope Piux VIII is referred to by his historical IX in the latter part. Nice to see that he remains liberal all the same :)
 
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Plumber said:
Pope Piux VIII is referred to by his historical IX in the latter part. Nice to see that he remains liberal all the same :)
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I madee an error in the initial naming, so when I did the update I corrected it to the historical form - note it is changed in the formal timeline now.
 
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The 19th century music of the Dominion of Southern America developed primarily out of the mixture of English, Scottish, and Irish folk music and the sounds of the former slaves who had come primarily from Western Africa, with a dash of Spanish and Indian exotic-ness. Some would later claim that the music of the South was the completion of music, combining as it does the emphasis of melody and harmony seen in European music and the stress on rhythm and timbre of Western African music. Spirituals, Hollers, Minstrelry, Country Dance, and Folk all would merge in different ways to form the base for Southern styles of music. Syncopation and Blue Notes were a hallmark of the Southern Sound. Whereas Europe and the United States eschewed black influences and continued to develop refinements of so called 'classical' music, the South embraced the mixing of styles and traditions. At first, this music was the plaything of the lower classes, with its earthy and sometimes obscene lyrics and themes, played most often in the brothels and gambling houses of the South. But eventually clever musicians found ways to adapt the lyrics to more double entendre and hid the base themes, making this music palatable to the upper classes of the Dominion, and in fact became a popular export of the DSA to Latin America, the United States, the United Kingdom, and even Western Europe. A popular dance style, merengay, came out of Hispaniola initially and spread throughout the Dominion. The music of the Western Dominion were also heavily influenced by the rich musical traditions of the Mexican Republic on its border. Performers were primarily negro or mulatto, and indeed this was a pathway to success for many of African blood from the Dominion. By the 1880s, 'Southron Music' was a popular offering of theatres and dance halls across the Western World.
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Northern Europeans have historically done amazing things with fiddles. And violins. Two very different instruments.
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True, true - but they are lagging thus far.

DuQuense said:
Add some Brass and you will have French Polkas.
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Well, yes, that is true - have to see where we are on Polka development ITTL.

WienerBlut said:
'Sothron Jazz and Mexican cha-cha-cha's, can't compare to US Oompah-pahs'
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Oh, wouldn't go that far....
 
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The battle for Women's Suffrage on the federal level had been an ongoing one since the 1840s. A few states had had women's suffrage in place since the founding of the Union. Others, especially the states west of the Mississippi, had also established suffrage for women in their states. This was seen as ongoing success by suffrage advocates in the Democratic Party, who wanted to see each state embrace the right of women to vote on its own terms. Supporters of female suffrage in the Federalist Party, however, were dissatisfied with anything less than universal suffrage for women throughout the United States. The 1870s campaign by the Federalist women's suffrage movement used the rising good feelings about the prosperity of the nation and the impending Centennial to argue for the vote for women. On Independence Day, June 3rd, 1876, the law was signed giving all women in America the right to vote, making it the first nation in the world to do so on a national scale.
 

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Glen said:
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The battle for Women's Suffrage on the federal level had been an ongoing one since the 1840s. A few states had had women's suffrage in place since the founding of the Union. Others, especially the states west of the Mississippi, had also established suffrage for women in their states. This was seen as ongoing success by suffrage advocates in the Democratic Party, who wanted to see each state embrace the right of women to vote on its own terms. Supporters of female suffrage in the Federalist Party, however, were dissatisfied with anything less than universal suffrage for women throughout the United States. The 1870s campaign by the Federalist women's suffrage movement used the rising good feelings about the prosperity of the nation and the impending Centennial to argue for the vote for women. On Independence Day, June 3rd, 1876, the law was signed giving all women in America the right to vote, making it the first nation in the world to do so on a national scale.
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Female suffrage comes forty years earlier than OTL. I love this TL!!!!
 

Ze Kaiser

I see that the United States is more progressive in TTL. Very cool and very original. Makes me wonder what else they'll accomplish first.
 
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Cylon_Number_14 said:
Seconded. Plus I love meringue dancing and music so I'm doubly happy. The DSA I again believe will be the #1 vacation spot in the world. The hardest part is choosing which region to visit!
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Indeed, indeed....lots of those hard working, rugged individualists from their neighbors to the north, the USA, might start coming down for some sun-drenched fun....
 
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