Why has it been Butterflied -- The Statue was a 1870's gift -- And this is still the 50's~60's.Which brings up another interesting idea: since the Statue of Liberty has been butterflied away, why not have the British give the USA something similar to celebrate the bicentennial? Then later on, the USA gives the DSA something similar?
Why has it been Butterflied -- The Statue was a 1870's gift -- And this is still the 50's~60's.
Remembre the OTL Statue is just One of many proposed designs.
Good stuff as usual! Still waiting on the appearance of a Parrish... (unless I missed it in a caffeine stupor...)
Keep up the excellent work.
Awesome post!
Good to know the USA treats blacks far better, and the divide between them and their 'Negro' brethren is an interesting and plossible twist.
Any shot of major Black settlement in the West?
Glen,
I think you'll have to deal with a strange tension with blacks in the USA. Honestly, I'd wonder if they'd maintain themselves as a distinct culture (or even race) at all ITTL outside of Virginia and Maryland).
Basically, it seems that racism was needed to enforce the strict color line of OTL's USA, and in order to maintain racism there had to be a large enough proportion of blacks that they were not merely a curiosity, but an active threat. European nations like Spain, Portugal, and Britain, for example, had a goodly amount of black slaves at one point, but as they were manumitted they just melted into the main white population. The same thing seems to have happened in parts of Latin America where there weren't large black populations, like Argentina and Mexico.
In addition, I think in order to distinguish themselves from Negroes, American blacks, particularly middle class and urban ones, will want to acculturate as much to the dominant white paradigm as possible. While I don't think that would immediately mean most of them would want a white spouse, it would probably be a different story for their children and grandchildren who grow up socializing with lots of white families.
I suspect it will highly vary depending upon geography however. On the frontier, I expect the black population will largely vanish. But in major cities like New York and Philadelphia, I expect enough of a black population will form that there will be a strong feeling of ethnic rivalry, even if not the pernicious racism of OTL, which will cause people to largely stick to their own.
Your points here are well taken - on the other hand, did blacks disappear entirely in Canada?
Hoorah! The sons of Hibernia have started coming to the west!
I see your point, but the black community in Canada wasn't that much of an outlier. Most of the present community are recent immigrants from the Caribbean. The fraction descended from black loyalists, the slaves of white loyalists, or runaway slaves/American freemen really stuck to two areas - Toronto and Halifax, where they were present enough to form a discrete black community and experience some measure of racism (Nova Scotia actually had the first race riot in North America)
Out of curiosity, has a national flag for the DSA been designed or proposed yet?
In any case, here's a simple flag I made in a couple of minutes for the province of Georgia. Admittedly, it probably needs much more work to better represent TTL's Georgia, but I hope it's an okay start.
The DSA doesn't have a separate flag yet.
Will it be something like Canada's? two colors and a simple design in the middle. Or like Australia's and New Zealand's keeping the Union Jack?