Charles V & Ferdinand I without a Habsburg Spain
It's quite popular here to have either Juan (John), the prince of Asturias or Miguel da Paz, so that the Habsburgs don't end up as kings of the Spanish kingdoms (crown of Castille and crown of Aragon).
This also causes that the focus of the Habsburgs stays on the empire and this will also affect marriage politics.
IOTL a French or English princess were preferred for Charles V and Anne of Hungary & Bohemia wasn't really considered, now without the Spanish inheritance IMHO this would change.
In a lot TL's they still have the Habsburgs split their domains between a Burgundian (Charles v) and an Austrian (Ferdinand I) branch, however without the Spanish inheritance this wouldn't be as necessary. IOTL one of the reason's why Charles V gave Ferdinand I all the Austrian hereditary lands was the marriage of Ferdinand with Anne of Hungary & Bohemia and to improve their chance to be elected as heir of Anne's brother Louis, if he were to die without a heir; another reason was to give Ferdinand a powerbase, so that he could act as the representative of Charles, when Charles wasn't in the Empire.
If for instance Charles would marry Anne and/or doesn't inherit the Spanish kingdoms, that won't happen (although the marriage of Ferdinand with Anne seems to be popular too).
OTOH Ferdinand could have gotten Inner Austria (Styria, Carinthia, Carniola (& Windic March) or Further Austria (Tyrol & and the traditional western lands of the Habsburgs) or Ferdinand could end up as the Habsburg candidate for the duchy of Milan.
Louis of Hungary & Bohemia could survive, but if he doesn't then things would depend on the marriage of his sister Anne. If's she marries Ferdinand as IOTL then her husband will probably have a smaller powerbase and more difficulties securing their election and also more difficulties against the Ottomans.
If OTOH Anne ends up being married to Charles in such a scenario, they will have a stronger position against the Ottomans, and a 'crusade' to liberate Hungary from the Ottomans does fit Charles's personality.
OTOH the Habsburgs would be weaker than IOTL, so a harder time in Italy and against France, but at the same time they also are much less of a threat for France. Since without one person holding the alliance together the Habsburgs and the Trastamaras/Aviz won't be allies forever.
What are your thoughts?
And could an alternative Charles V (Holy Roman Emperor, king of Hungary etc., king of Bohemia etc., archduke of Austria etc., duke of Burgundy & lord of the Netherlands etc.) have succeeded in restoring the kingdom of Hungary (or at least reduce Ottoman Hungary)?
It's quite popular here to have either Juan (John), the prince of Asturias or Miguel da Paz, so that the Habsburgs don't end up as kings of the Spanish kingdoms (crown of Castille and crown of Aragon).
This also causes that the focus of the Habsburgs stays on the empire and this will also affect marriage politics.
IOTL a French or English princess were preferred for Charles V and Anne of Hungary & Bohemia wasn't really considered, now without the Spanish inheritance IMHO this would change.
In a lot TL's they still have the Habsburgs split their domains between a Burgundian (Charles v) and an Austrian (Ferdinand I) branch, however without the Spanish inheritance this wouldn't be as necessary. IOTL one of the reason's why Charles V gave Ferdinand I all the Austrian hereditary lands was the marriage of Ferdinand with Anne of Hungary & Bohemia and to improve their chance to be elected as heir of Anne's brother Louis, if he were to die without a heir; another reason was to give Ferdinand a powerbase, so that he could act as the representative of Charles, when Charles wasn't in the Empire.
If for instance Charles would marry Anne and/or doesn't inherit the Spanish kingdoms, that won't happen (although the marriage of Ferdinand with Anne seems to be popular too).
OTOH Ferdinand could have gotten Inner Austria (Styria, Carinthia, Carniola (& Windic March) or Further Austria (Tyrol & and the traditional western lands of the Habsburgs) or Ferdinand could end up as the Habsburg candidate for the duchy of Milan.
Louis of Hungary & Bohemia could survive, but if he doesn't then things would depend on the marriage of his sister Anne. If's she marries Ferdinand as IOTL then her husband will probably have a smaller powerbase and more difficulties securing their election and also more difficulties against the Ottomans.
If OTOH Anne ends up being married to Charles in such a scenario, they will have a stronger position against the Ottomans, and a 'crusade' to liberate Hungary from the Ottomans does fit Charles's personality.
OTOH the Habsburgs would be weaker than IOTL, so a harder time in Italy and against France, but at the same time they also are much less of a threat for France. Since without one person holding the alliance together the Habsburgs and the Trastamaras/Aviz won't be allies forever.
What are your thoughts?
And could an alternative Charles V (Holy Roman Emperor, king of Hungary etc., king of Bohemia etc., archduke of Austria etc., duke of Burgundy & lord of the Netherlands etc.) have succeeded in restoring the kingdom of Hungary (or at least reduce Ottoman Hungary)?
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