Inspired by the "French Cuba" thread a few days ago...what if, after capturing Havana in the Seven Years War, the British didn't return it in the peace treaty?
Most probably the Spanish just get it back in the American War of Independence. Some butterflies from that, I daresay, but not a whole lot.
Yeah, IIRC this made the British fairly popular with the merchants and other middle class types.Well the British had enforced none of the Spanish restrictions on trade, business, land, et cetera during the occupation. Apparently this caused a tremendous economic boom on the island, which collapsed when the Spanish returned and reinstated the regulations.
They might even actively lobby for the British to return it rather than keeping it after the war. Why bring and extra source of sugar onto the internal British market and possibly lower the price of it when you're already making a literal fortune from your own plantations?What an economically successful Cuba based on slave plantations would do to enhance the West Indian lobby in parliament would be very interesting. They might push back the slave trade ban a long way. In addition, the American South might feel the peculiar institution was more protected within the Empire, and not join the ARW.
Yeah, IIRC this made the British fairly popular with the merchants and other middle class types.
They might even actively lobby for the British to return it rather than keeping it after the war. Why bring and extra source of sugar onto the internal British market and possibly lower the price of it when you're already making a literal fortune from your own plantations?
From doing some thinking on this myself I figure if the British kept the island they'd probably try and impose their style of government and values on it which would probably annoy the locals to a certain extent. After the better part of a decade when parliament passes the Quebec Act in 1774 the locals start pushing for similar rights, and with the Thirteen Colonies getting a bit restless the government gives it to them to shore up support, with Cuba evolving as a mix of Spanish and British cultures. Since none of this would in any likelihood affect the outcome of the American Revolution a lot of the Loyalists, the black soldiers especially, that went to Canada and the Bahamas might go to Cuba instead helping balance out the British and Spanish populations somewhat. It then chugs along eventually becoming something akin to a much larger Jamaica.
Interesting knock-ons include no Maine Incident and resulting Spanish-American War, hell the US public probably wouldn't be all that interested if things weren't happening a couple of hundred miles off their shore but seven thousand miles away on the other side of the Pacific, and no Cuban Missile Crisis either.
From doing some thinking on this myself I figure if the British kept the island they'd probably try and impose their style of government and values on it which would probably annoy the locals to a certain extent.
Interesting knock-ons include no Maine Incident and resulting Spanish-American War, hell the US public probably wouldn't be all that interested if things weren't happening a couple of hundred miles off their shore but seven thousand miles away on the other side of the Pacific, and no Cuban Missile Crisis either.
They might even actively lobby for the British to return it rather than keeping it after the war. Why bring and extra source of sugar onto the internal British market and possibly lower the price of it when you're already making a literal fortune from your own plantations?
They might even actively lobby for the British to return it rather than keeping it after the war. Why bring and extra source of sugar onto the internal British market and possibly lower the price of it when you're already making a literal fortune from your own plantations?
I suspect over time it would anglocise more easily than, say, a British Argentina. The new elite would be British, the planter class and urban high society would want to ingratiate themselves with that elite, most blacks would be newly imported and speaking English, and lower class whites would probably leave to find better opportunities elsewhere due to competition from slave labour.
Actually, I would think it would be much harder for Cuba to "Anglicise". Even if the new élite were British, most people in Cuba already speak Spanish - particularly a variety of Caribbean Spanish - and that's most likely going to be the same way for a long time to come. Any immigrants from Romance-speaking countries or areas where a Romance language or a creole derived from a Romance language would also quickly take to Spanish or a Spanish creole, though they'd add their own "accent" to it that would probably make Cuban Spanish hard to understand outside of Cuba. (Plus, the slaves might take to Spanish easier than English - after all, there are already slaves in Cuba who speak Spanish, if not in creole form. Slaves from Cape Verde, for example, could probably relexify their Portuguese-derived creole due to Spanish influence.)
Under the British, Cuba would have had a big expansion of slavery, with huge imports of slaves from the American South and other Caribbean islands. I don't necessarily buy that the Spanish would get it back - they didn't with Jamaica, despite the ARW.
What an economically successful Cuba based on slave plantations would do to enhance the West Indian lobby in parliament would be very interesting. They might push back the slave trade ban a long way. In addition, the American South might feel the peculiar institution was more protected within the Empire, and not join the ARW.
I could see linguists by our time ITTL debating whether or not the Cuban language is just a dialect of Spanish/English or mutated enough by the English/Spanish language to be considered its own language.
I could see linguists by our time ITTL debating whether or not the Cuban language is just a dialect of Spanish/English or mutated enough by the English/Spanish language to be considered its own language.
I dunno guys....IIRC Britain didn't actually hold the entire island during the 7YW, only Havana and a bit of Western Cuba. I'm not sure that Britain could get all of Cuba either militarily (they'd have to allocate WAY more resources, especially given the Redcoat's preponderance to drop dead at the first sign of any tropical illness.) or diplomatically (they'd have to give up a lot at the treaty of Paris to get Spain's premier possession in the Caribbean).
Well the British had enforced none of the Spanish restrictions on trade, business, land, et cetera during the occupation. Apparently this caused a tremendous economic boom on the island, which collapsed when the Spanish returned and reenstated the regulations.
With another 10-12 years of British rule, Cuba will likely be quite a different place and the changes wrought too entrenched to be eliminated when the island is returned to Spain. The end result may be reforms in the rest of the empire, but at the least Cuba will become even more the center of the Spanish Empire.