Any possibility to hear something about ships?Missed this one. Second largest and advanced in the world, second the the USA.
Any possibility to hear something about ships?Missed this one. Second largest and advanced in the world, second the the USA.
Pretty good, though there are some hardcore nationalists in China who want to confront India over some border disputes.How good relations between China and India have been in this timeline since China democratized?
I haven't made any, the world is pretty similar, with a few exceptions. China includes Taiwan, Korea is unified, and Belarus and Russia are unified.Are there any present maps for TTL? Would be interesting to see how much of it diverged compared to OTL.
I'll get to that in the future.Any possibility to hear something about ships?
Who controls Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh ITTL?Pretty good, though there are some hardcore nationalists in China who want to confront India over some border disputes.
IndiaWho controls Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh ITTL?
Not much yet, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to keep India on his good side and his successors didn't want to cause any trouble.China hasn't made a push for them?
I wonder if there's any way to peacefully negotiate it. China and India allied make a very very strong team to fight against the American unipolar world order.Not much yet, Chiang Kai-shek wanted to keep India on his good side and his successors didn't want to cause any trouble.
Well it is a country of more than 1 billion people that has arguably, IMO, probably more interaction with the outside world than even India (if the License Raj was existed around a similar timeframe as IOTL) ITTL, I agree with you for the most part, although with that amount of population, I would not be surprised if there are already some certain cities (or even provinces) councillors that are demanding legalization of same-sex marriage by this point (and others that are going the exact opposite way as well)I hope China doesn't go too liberal. It would feel weird. Asian conservative societies take time to liberalise. I expect a modern culture similar to that of OTL Japan and SK with regards to liberalism.
Remember China's traditions and culture is much stronger without the CCP destroying much of it in the Cultural Revolution. And even CCP China isn't that friendly to same-sex relationships. I expect a similar level of cultural acceptance similarly to what Japan has OTL but same-sex marriage is not going to happen anytime soon I think.Well it is a country of more than 1 billion people that has arguably, IMO, probably more interaction with the outside world than even India (if the License Raj was existed around a similar timeframe as IOTL) ITTL, I agree with you for the most part, although with that amount of population, I would not be surprised if there are already some certain cities (or even provinces) councillors that are demanding legalization of same-sex marriage by this point (and others that are going the exact opposite way as well)
As for Japan andSouthKorea, well it feel like its 50/50 on whether it is more liberal or conservative ITTL.
Well it is a country of more than 1 billion people that has arguably, IMO, probably more interaction with the outside world than even India (if the License Raj was existed around a similar timeframe as IOTL) ITTL, I agree with you for the most part, although with that amount of population, I would not be surprised if there are already some certain cities (or even provinces) councillors that are demanding legalization of same-sex marriage by this point (and others that are going the exact opposite way as well)
As for Japan andSouthKorea, well it feel like its 50/50 on whether it is more liberal or conservative ITTL.
Dunno about that. You mentioned South Korea and Japan but you didn’t mention Taiwan, which is fairly liberal despite being both more ‘traditional’ Chinese and having been ruled by a military dictatorship for a huge chunk of its history. See, for example, their allowing same-sex marriage recently.Remember China's traditions and culture is much stronger without the CCP destroying much of it in the Cultural Revolution. And even CCP China isn't that friendly to same-sex relationships. I expect a similar level of cultural acceptance similarly to what Japan has OTL but same-sex marriage is not going to happen anytime soon I think.
Asian cultures are deeply conservative by default. We have long traditions and old cultures and greater religiosity, which would be higher in China without again, CCP clampdown.
🤔 maybe yeah.Dunno about that. You mentioned South Korea and Japan but you didn’t mention Taiwan, which is fairly liberal despite being both more ‘traditional’ Chinese and having been ruled by a military dictatorship for a huge chunk of its history. See, for example, their allowing same-sex marriage recently.
My own take is that you’d likely have the country being kind of a patchwork in this regard. So for instance, more liberal and cosmopolitan regions and cities like Shanghai or Hong Kong or Shenzhen or Taiwan would have stuff like same-sex marriage or civil partnerships, but the interior provinces like Sichuan or the Muslim-majority regions like Xinjiang or Gansu wouldn’t.
Li Ao was an... interesting individual to say the least.Well, that was unexpected, especially considering the timing of it...but nevermind.
Li Ao being Li Ao(ch)...and his actions sometimes makes me wonder if he ITTL actually a KMT plant (or at least a plant of a faction of the KMT).
I will get to this in a later update.Would be interesting to see how China transportation system progressed ITTL, especially in terms of its railway (would the rolling stock for (not-yet) high speed intercity rail services would be indigenous made from the get-go around this time) and aviation sector (which thanks to its geography would be more likely to be inducing (at the expense of the trijet) the demand of efficient two-engine long-haul wide bodies like Airbus A300, Boeing 767 etc..)
Asianometry's channel is good, so I'll have to check it out, but I didn't know about Wang Laboratories until now.P/s:
- I feel like Hong Kong was up to this point, was developing similarly to OTL economically wise , however after the handover, the economic development of Hong Kong would be better than ITTL thanks to less interference from Nanking(or is it Nanjing already?).
- Now that you have once again mentioned computers, have you seen the Asianometry recent video regarding Wang Laboratories? It would be interesting to see the fate of the Wang family ITTL as an addendum to a future (or past) chapter regarding technology.
The License Raj ended about a decade earlier than OTL.Well it is a country of more than 1 billion people that has arguably, IMO, probably more interaction with the outside world than even India (if the License Raj was existed around a similar timeframe as IOTL) ITTL, I agree with you for the most part, although with that amount of population, I would not be surprised if there are already some certain cities (or even provinces) councillors that are demanding legalization of same-sex marriage by this point (and others that are going the exact opposite way as well)
As for Japan andSouthKorea, well it feel like its 50/50 on whether it is more liberal or conservative ITTL.
There really isn't much of a movement for same-sex marriage in China at this point, as 2000 is before it was legal anywhere.Remember China's traditions and culture is much stronger without the CCP destroying much of it in the Cultural Revolution. And even CCP China isn't that friendly to same-sex relationships. I expect a similar level of cultural acceptance similarly to what Japan has OTL but same-sex marriage is not going to happen anytime soon I think.
Asian cultures are deeply conservative by default. We have long traditions and old cultures and greater religiosity, which would be higher in China without again, CCP clampdown.
China is more populous and urbanized than OTL, so the populations would be larger. Nanjing TTL has 5 million inhabitants compared to 4.3 million in OTL 2000. Beiping is only slightly larger than OTL, and Hong Kong is about the same.Speaking of which, how big would the population of major Chinese cities be compared to their OTL counterparts, especially with Nanjing still the capital and Beiping merely just one of many Chinese cities?
China has all those things, and I can't believe I forgot to update everyone on the Chinese space program, it will be featured in a future update.Hello
Has China's economy developed to a point to at least consider the following big ticket items...
Manned space program
High speed rail network
Aircraft manufacturing along the lines of Boeing or Airbus
Jiangsu province has Shanghai and Nanjing, Hebei has Beijing and Tianjin, and Guangdong has Hong Kong and Guangzhou (Canton), so those would be the most likely provinces to legalize same-sex marriage, though all three of them have very large rural populations as well. Out of China's major cities, Beijing is the most disposed to left-wing politics.Dunno about that. You mentioned South Korea and Japan but you didn’t mention Taiwan, which is fairly liberal despite being both more ‘traditional’ Chinese and having been ruled by a military dictatorship for a huge chunk of its history. See, for example, their allowing same-sex marriage recently.
My own take is that you’d likely have the country being kind of a patchwork in this regard. So for instance, more liberal and cosmopolitan regions and cities like Shanghai or Hong Kong or Shenzhen or Taiwan would have stuff like same-sex marriage or civil partnerships, but the interior provinces like Sichuan or the Muslim-majority regions like Xinjiang or Gansu wouldn’t.
The effects of culture revolution in context of "destroying Chinese culture" is overblown, Mao said that women hold up half of the sky before the culture revolution and did some radical reform to a chinese liberal society and there was no backlash for the Chinese they were already an atheist before the culture revolution, in reality culture revolution was mostly a Mao power trip when he went purging reforms like Deng and intellectualsRemember China's traditions and culture is much stronger without the CCP destroying much of it in the Cultural Revolution. And even CCP China isn't that friendly to same-sex relationships. I expect a similar level of cultural acceptance similarly to what Japan has OTL but same-sex marriage is not going to happen anytime soon I think.
Asian cultures are deeply conservative by default. We have long traditions and old cultures and greater religiosity, which would be higher in China without again, CCP clampdown.