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holycookie

PecuTheGreat said:
Iberia just has a similar colour, its an ethnic Berber ruled, Mozarabic speaking Al-Andalus.
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Not a very stable realm I imagine. Muslim Iberians (and Christians too) and Berbers hated each other a lot (to the point that we can say that the importation of Berber by the Arab elite was one of the decisive factors for the fall of the Andalus caliphate). With the Muwallad (Iberian Muslims) being the only other group outside of the Iranians with a strong Shu'ubiyya movement.
 

PecuTheGreat

holycookie said:
Not a very stable realm I imagine. Muslim Iberians (and Christians too) and Berbers hated each other a lot (to the point that we can say that the importation of Berber by the Arab elite was one of the decisive factors for the fall of the Andalus caliphate). With the Muwallad (Iberian Muslims) being the only other group outside of the Iranians with a strong Shu'ubiyya movement.
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I didn't know about the movement specifically called Shu'ubiyya but the Berber force took out the declining Arab elites is basically now doing the Shu'ubiyya thing of removing Arab supremacy from the system and promoting Mozarabic as the alternative langauge of administration. At least that's what I did.

An earlier player(that's now dropped) also had it that they new elites are trying to resolve the tentions(directing hate instead to Arabs and Christians might be a way) and moving towards a state directed uniting of Muwallad and Andalusian Berber identities.
 

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Sequel to my last map, set in 2016, one hundred years after the Entente Cordiale wins the Great War.
 

TickTock The Witch's Dead

Emperor-of-New-Zealand said:
I have finished my map. As per usual, I wanted to do a key but by the time I finished, you know, the map, I pretty much lost all motivation. Maybe one day I'll go harder - I used to do full-blown B_Munro style maps but alas...

Anyway, as mentioned before, the vague POD is that the British somehow win the American Revolution and the nascent United States dies in the cradle. It's not all bad, though; they get some concessions and despite the revolutionary leaders being hanged, things improve in the colonies. History happens and the territories of British North America expand westward, mostly taking a northwestern route, and through winning wars and other such shenanigans it ends up with roughly the shape you see on the map.

So, what makes this version of America different? Well, the official name of this trans-Pacific federation is the 'Commonwealth of Nations', otherwise called 'the Commonwealth', or just 'America'. It is the current seat of the House of Windsor, currently ruled by Queen Victoria II (though, you know - constitutionally). Like her predecessors, Queen Victoria II's titles go far and wide, but one in particular is of interest here; "Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland". Why is that of interest? Because Great Britain and Ireland do not have a queen.

In TTL's "Spring of Nations", Britain wasn't spared. Sometime in the mid-late 19th Century (1850s-1860s, I keep things vague) major urban centres across Britain experienced mass strikes and popular revolt. This wound up erupting into an all-out civil war with a very socialist bent to it, and faciliated an event known to the history books as the "Flight of Windsor". Basically, Queen Victoria I was assassinated, and her family scarfered. Without a figurehead to rally around (or rather, with the figurehead now in America), the traditionalist side of the civil war folded, and Britain became a parliamentary republic. Missives were sent to all the far-flung colonies of the empire, with some accepting the new status quo, and others not. The new administration was on shakey ground from the start. The Royal Navy by and large opted to remain the "Royal" Navy, which greatly weakened Britain's ability to project power. As a result, rebellion in India succeeded, neutering Britain's "Raj" ambitions.

Anyway, this is a map of 2022. There have been wars, there has been peace, there are no clear superpowers. Russia is still a god-forsaken empire, and incredibly autocratic, though the Tsar himself wields very little actual power. Militarily the strongest nations are undoubtedly the Commonwealth, the Empire of Japan, the Caliphate of Arabia (initially an Egyptian-led project, typically just called 'Arabia' or 'the Caliphate'), and the Republic of Peru (which is on par with OTL's Canada, really). China looks scary but it's frail; the Ughyurs, Mongols, and Tibetans are only de jure part of the Chinese Empire, but otherwise completely rule themselves.

The current attention-grabbing conflict is the Arab-Iranian War, known to the Arabians as "the military intervention to restore moral order", and known to everyone else as "a shameless land-grab". Since the 1950's, Iran has been steadily liberalising. It's been slow going, as the Iranian government still needs to reconcile western ideas with the natural conservatisim of Islam, but by-and-large they have a functioning democratic tradition, a well-educated populace, and a strong economy with good social programmes in place. The major areas that need working on are in gender and sexual equality, but hey, they're getting there. At least until they got invaded. Fear not, though; Iran is fighting back and doing so admirably, and foreign weapons are just flooding across its borders (typically taking a long path from Russia through Central Asia and the Caucasus).

Now, other wee notes:
  • In the American southeast, you'll see the Republic of Columbia, a nation born out of a desire to maintain the institution of slavery (and also a nation that committed wholesale genocide against the Seminoles, and still attempted an African colony as a dumping ground for freed blacks when the slavery writing was on the wall). These guys are basically Christian nationalists with some whacky interpretations of the bible. Their tag-line is "there are no gays in Columbia" no matter how statistically impossible that is. They've also been cycling through the same three presidents for about thirty years.
  • Mexico is better than OTL. Culturally they are more conservative, leaning into Catholicism, but economically they're better off and income inequality isn't nearly as bad as it is in OTL. They started out as an empire, but that fell to pieces quickly. The Free Republic of Tejas to the north is one result of that. Cuba is also part of Mexico ITTL.
  • Brazil's breakup with Portugal was ugly. The north is the Republic of Amazonia. It used to be the Republic of North Brazil, but the Republic of Brazil in the south refused to change their name to "South Brazil" (or so the joke goes). Portugal still controls a small territory in the Northeast which contains suspiciously few ethnic minorities. In terms of independence, south went first, then north.
  • Peru still controls Equatorial Africa (a holdover from when the Spanish lumped its administration in with La Plata). It isn't a colony, though, and is a full province. Peru also still controls various islands in the Pacific, including *New Caledonia.
  • Several nations remain 'unconquered' from the colonial era. These are:
    • *Mali (I'm honestly very unsure what the name of this state should be).
    • Bornu (big state around Lake Chad).
    • Mossi (Burkina Faso).
    • Abyssinia (still an empire, though now a constitutional monarchy).
    • Majeerteen (Somalia).
    • Madagascar (by some miracle).
    • Afghanistan (no Anglo-Afghan Wars).
    • Burma, Thailand, and Vietnam (all three are still monarchies and are doing varying levels of 'okay' - Vietnam is probably the best of the bunch).
    • Some of the Indian states were spared wholesale conquest, though they did labour under various levels of European influence.
  • Both Alaska (Arasuka) and Hawaii (Hawa-i) actually started out as Russian territories, but were taken by Japan in a war along with the Amur region.
  • Germany was never a monarchy. It unified late (20th Century) and has been a republic since birth.
  • The Hapsburgs still reign in Hungary (which for a while was Hungary-Bohemia until the Czechs got sick of playing second fiddle).
  • The House of Osman fell, but Turkiye remains a sultanate. Bulgaria has been rather firmly Islamicised thanks to internal immigration patterns and some unpleasantness. Turkiye is basically the Caliphate's "little brother", though it's an open secret that the Caliphate has designs on Turkish territory (they have designs on a lot of territory, including the entirety of Spain and Portugal, so we'll see how well that works out for them).
  • Funnily enough, Iceland having control over Greenland was something I decided to do very early in the map, only to see Bruce add the same feature to his recent map. I'm not copying, I promise!
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Pan-Arab scenarios are rare in this site so seeing a map with one is still pretty good IMO.
 

Aichi72

Wendell said:
If France and Germany are friends, then what happened with the Moroccan crises in your scenario? I doubt Cameroon would be so large..
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I just didn't know that much about Moroccan or Cameroonian history, but I'll say that the Moroccan crises went about as OTL because France and Germany weren't as close at that time (think OTL Britain and Russia in the Entente), although perhaps the conflict itself was somewhat mitigated by closer than OTL relations between France and Germany, the territorial changes ended up being around the same as OTL.
 
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Godot

Atzyn said:
A map of a very strange European Union...

This is a prototype map of sorts for a project I've had in my head for a while. I do have some lore written up but it's nothing concrete, so feel free to ask about anything you see on this map. A lot of it is subject to change.

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Very nice. What's Khazaria like? Syria? And what's the blue in the UK flag stand for? I can understand the representation of England, Wales, and Cornwall, but not the blue
 

Atzyn

Assouf said:
Very nice. What's Khazaria like? Syria? And what's the blue in the UK flag stand for? I can understand the representation of England, Wales, and Cornwall, but not the blue
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Khazaria is a Jewish state, closely related to the other nations with Judaism as an official religion (majority in Homer and Simien, significant minority in Syria, Poland and Africa). It is a somewhat developed state, around the middle of the pack in living standards in the Union. There is some ethnic tension regarding the Nogai and Kalmyk in the south of the country and the Bashkirs in the north, none of which are Jewish, but it's not violent. It gets along well with most of its neighbours, with the notable exception of Turkestan, with which it has a history of belligerence.

Syria is the remnant of the crusades, the descendant of the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the only crusader state that survived. Its creation effectively stopped any Arab attempts at expanding into Libya (Africa). It's a democracy in theory but in practice it's an authoritarian state with elections that the same sort of party always wins. It's mostly populated by Christian Arabs and Europeans, Jews and Samaritans, with significant Druze and Muslim Arab minorities. and speaks its own unique language which developed out of the state's diverse populations. Most Arabs have left the country as state oppression towards them has escalated in the past few years and the country has spiraled into authoritarianism. It frequently conflicts with other states in the Union regarding its social policies and there have been calls to kick them out, but nothing has been done.

The blue in the UK flag stands for Calais. If you look closely, it owns a bit of the northern French coast.
Wafflenalia said:
why is Turkestan that big?
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It covers all the areas inhabited by Azeris, OTL Turkestan, and the areas inhabited by the Tuvans, Khakas, Altai and Yakuts, with the rest being colonized in a similar way Russia colonized Siberia IOTL.
 
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Wafflenalia

Atzyn said:
Khazaria is a Jewish state, closely related to the other nations with Judaism as an official religion (majority in Homer and Simien, significant minority in Syria, Poland and Africa). It is a somewhat developed state, around the middle of the pack in living standards in the Union. There is some ethnic tension regarding the Nogai and Kalmyk in the south of the country and the Bashkirs in the north, none of which are Jewish, but it's not violent. It gets along well with most of its neighbours, with the notable exception of Turkestan, with which it has a history of belligerence.

Syria is the remnant of the crusades, the descendant of the Kingdom of Jerusalem and the only crusader state that survived. Its creation effectively stopped any Arab attempts at expanding into Libya (Africa). It's a democracy in theory but in practice it's an authoritarian state with elections that the same sort of party always wins. It's mostly populated by Christian Arabs and Europeans, Jews and Samaritans, with significant Druze and Muslim Arab minorities. and speaks its own unique language with developed out of the state's diverse populations. Most Arabs have left the country as state oppression towards them has escalated in the past few years and the country has spiraled into authoritarianism. It frequently conflicts with other states in the Union regarding its social policies and there have been calls to kick them out, but nothing has been done.

The blue in the UK flag stands for Calais. If you look closely, it owns a bit of the northern French coast.

It covers all the areas inhabited by Azeris, OTL Turkestan, and the areas inhabited by the Tuvans, Khakas, Altai and Yakuts, with the rest being colonized in a similar way Russia colonized Siberia IOTL.
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oh ok
 
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Telamon Tabulicus

This is a biogeography map we did for Atlas Altera. This one is a map on flora distribution patterns in the world of Altera, or phytogeography. It complements the zoogeographic map I posted last month.
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To see other and more serious maps from the project, go to AtlasAltera.com or r/atlasaltera or go to the Altera Deviantart page. You can also take a deep dive on Youtube.com/@atlasaltera

You will find that some of the hierarchical geographical levels/phytochorion (same choros in chorography btw) have general reference points to the work of Armen Takhtajan and Ronald Good. Using their work for reference:
  1. Character = province
  2. Scene = region
  3. Frame = subkingdom
  4. Theatre = kingdom
 
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