Miscellaneous <1900 (Alternate) History Thread
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Partly because of the jousting accident in 1536. If he doesn't have that, a child in 1540/41 wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
AHC: Katherine of Aragon as mother-in-law to Henry's OTL other five wives...
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Agreed with this. And even ignoring that, with a POD this early and an Anne Boleyn that is Henry’s wife in the eyes of Catholics, she almost certainly won’t have the same disdain for Mary that she did OTL. TTL, Mary isn’t a young woman that disrespected her by refusing to acknowledge her as Queen and Elizabeth as Princess. Mary likely wouldn’t pose nearly the same level of threat in her eyes–especially since TTL, Mary is either 12 or 13 when Henry and Anne wed, and by the time she’s an adult they would probably have a few children. Given Anne’s love of France, and the fact that Mary being legitimate isn’t a threat to her children’s positions TTL, she might even support a match between Mary and the Dauphin (or Mary and James V) and see it as preferable to Mary entering an Imperial proxy marriage.
As for TTL’s Elizabeth-equivalent, she will certainly be betrothed to Felipe of Spain at some point. She may even become an alternate second wife for him if Maria Manuela still dies as she did OTL.
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Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1511) elopes with Anne Boleyn, then marries Anne of Cleves after AB dies in childbirth.
Edward, Duke of York (OTL 1513 son) marries Jane Seymour.
Edmund, Duke of Somerset (OTL 1514 son) marries Katharine Parr.
Arthur, Duke of Bedford (OTL 1518 daughter) marries Katheryn Howard.
TTL, Mary has no reason not to acknowledge Anne. Her mother wasn't "usurped", and everyone will agree that Henry was widowed in the eyes of God.
The Duke of Cornwall is likely to be betrothed to some foreign princess though
What if the western US had also seceded during the southern revolt? Not in the sense that they join the confederates but that they form their own state in the west. What territories would leave, who would lead them, what kind of culture would they develop, how would it affect the "Civil war", and how would the existence of a western state influence global affairs?
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Arthur Tudor survives and has lots of kids with Catherine of Aragon
William, Prince of Wales (b. 1503) m. Marie of France (b, 1505,d. 1522) m. Anne Boleyn (b.1501)
Elizabeth, Princess of England (b. 1505) m. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500)
Mary, Princess of England (b.1507) m. John III, King of Portugal (b.1503)
Henry, Duke of York (b. 1508) m. Jane Seymour (b.1508)
Stillborn Daughter (1510)
Arthur, Duke of Bedford (b.1511) m. Anne of Cleves (b.1515)
Edward, Duke of Somerset (b.1513) m. Catherine Parr (b.1512)
Stillborn Son (1514)
Margaret, Princess of England (b.1516) m. James V, King of Scotland (b.1512)
Catherine, Princess of England (b.1518) m. Francis II, King of France (b.1518)
Edmund, Duke of Clarence (b.1520) m. Catherine Howard (b.1523)
Thomas, Archbishop of Canterbury (b.1522)
Well is there a real reason to why they want to leave?
No state really sought to leave the union over there in the West
But for the sake of the tml let's say the states touching the Pacific ocean declare independence for shits and giggles. Who would follow them? Perhaps Nevada would join them for the sake of trade benefits.
Maybe Utah would join the bandwagon, but I don't think the Pacific States of America would want them nor would the Mormons want the PSA
Quick question - why did Philip VI and John II of France create so many duchies, when previous apanages had remained as counties? Was an attempt to enhance their prestige?
I suppose she either marries into Portugal or France (if Claude died as OTL Catherine would be younger than when she married IOTL)
No, Catherine will be married to John III of Portugal as OTL (most likely in a double match with Ferdinand and Isabella) but Eleanor will be married elsewhere (England, France, Lorraine or Poland… all matches proposed for her in OTL).
Ancient/Hellenistic Greece question/hot take: The "Greece" that was conquered by the Roman Republic was a lot weaker than classical Greece. The immediately pre-Roman Greece IIRC was controlled by the Macedonians, and many Greeks/Greek city-states had little desire to fight for the Macedonians over the Romans. Hence, unlike the classical Greeks that fought tooth and nail against the Persians (or sometimes each other), the "Greece" conquered by Rome had little desire to do the same to the Romans. Some Greek city-states even sided with the Romans over the Macedonians, preventing a united front?
Is this true? What do you think of the immediately pre-Roman Greece being that much weaker?
Is this true? What do you think of the immediately pre-Roman Greece being that much weaker?