Red Spies in the White House: An Alternate Cold War

Wow we got another glimpse into the future and its shows a lot.

Roald Dahl in particular seems to have taken a rather dark path...

CARDIFF, WALES: 1953

“Rule Britannia! Rule Britannia!”
cried the crowd as the demagogue climbed to the stage.

The demagogue stared down at the crowd from the podium. Thousands had gathered to attend his rally. Most of them were Cardiff locals, but he knew that many of the attendees had traveled from towns across Wales, and some had even traveled from England. Given that rationing of petrol (along with most other goods) was still extremely strict, it was a testament to his own popularity that so many travelers had come to see him personally in Cardiff. Many had likely traveled by public transport, or by horse or foot. Although he was based in Wales, the strength of his platform had attracted a following across all of Britain. He was making friends in London- supporters of his movement were already well organized there and were partaking in street demonstrations. The demagogue, while raised in Wales, was not ethnically Welsh and had little feel for specifically Welsh issues. No, he had national ambitions- and he felt his message, in these times, would appeal to the peoples of many other nations in the world.
Strick rationing in 1953 is expected since the OTL ration continued on for several years but its clearly implied to be waaay more worse here, for obvious reasons.

Roald Dahl meanwhile is pursuing an political career that quite obviously echoes Adolf Hitler's rise to power...

Roald Dahl talents of writing children books has definitely been used here to vilify the Communist and the Jews.

So, let us speak the name of the evil, so that these goblins will flee in terror. The socialists, the trade unionists, the liberals, they’re weak and scared- they don’t want to speak the name of the evil. But I will. What is the name of this goblin who menaces modern Britain?” cried Roald Dahl, raising his voice louder and louder. “It is the Jew!” The crowd roared with approval. “The Jews, the real-life goblins, control both the banks and the Communist Party. It is the Jew who has brought about the ruin of Britain, brought our civilization to the brink of anarchy and starvation. The Jew who has infiltrated our government and society to bring us down from within! They are wholly slimy and disreputable, the lowest scum of the Earth! There is something inherently repulsive in their character, that makes a person naturally shudder. Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t pick on them for no reason.***
Yeah it appears that anti-Semitism has become quite popular by the 1950s...

There has long been good reason to suspect the Jew, but in recent years their true nature has been revealed to the whole world. Recall the unholy trinity, the three Jews who seized control of America and left Britain bare and defenseless. These Elders of Zion, leaders of the Jewish conspiracy for world domination, were of the same cabal which controlled the Soviet Union- and naturally they set about undermining the Anglo- I mean white countries, descendants of the Nordic, and Celtic and Roman and Germanic peoples.
Conspiracy theories of the Jews is definitely becoming mainstream, I will note I did chuckled a bit when Roald Dahl had to quickly correct himself when he said Anglo instead of white countries. Although that does beg the question on why white supremacy has become part of Roald Dahl's political platform.

We at least know that Aryanism is going to have a renaissance of some kind after President White is exposed as a communist, so that may explain it.

Well Dahl is technically not wrong here with his talk of the supposed Jewish-Communist domination of the world. Although sadly the real truth of the supposed conspiracy will be buried and lost forever.

But he is definitely not wrong about Morgenthau wanting to purposely starve Germany's children to death with his idiotic plan.

The oldest of the Elders, of the three ruling Jews, was Bernard Baruch. He was there almost from the beginning of the century- the master of the American Svengalis, who trained Morgenthau as Morgenthau trained Weissnovicz. He controlled President Woodrow Wilson and organized the American banking sector into institutions fully under Jewish control. He brought about the Treaty of Versailles which led to the Second World War. He admits he knew of the coming of the Great Depression, for he helped destroy the world economy to make people turn to Jewish-Communism out of desperation. And finally, to top off his long storied and esteemed career, he introduced the Baruch Plan- which saw the disarmament of the West, the neutering of our military strength, which left this nation vulnerable to Communist annihilation, the atomic death. The crimes of these three men, these Jewish Svengalis, are extensively well documented. Can anyone deny that this Jewish-Communist cabal has brought about greater destruction than any other in world history? We have all seen, all felt the horrors they have unleashed upon this country. They have sat in the shadows plotting for years, putting their mechanisms into motion. It was a Jew, Vic Oliver who corrupted Sarah Churchill and brought about the downfall of Gil Winant, thus dooming the west. He too, was an agent of Bernard Baruch and the Jews who run the entertainment industry. They used our politicians like chess pieces- and look where we are today.``
Oh god the Soviets appear to have already demonstrated to the world with the fact that they are the only nation to still have Nuclear bombs...

“Now,” said Dahl, “we have named the evil. But despite their crimes, these goblins remain among us, in positions of power and influence. We cannot restore the Empire without rooting out the Jews among us. When I am elected to Parliament, I promise you we will free this land from foreign domination and cast out the Jews who oppress and steal from us. No more corrupt international treaties, no more feckless bureaucrats, no more endless rationing- we will return power in this country to where it belongs- not in the hands of Jews and foreigners, but in the hands of white British people. Rule Britannia!”

“Rule Britannia! Rule Britannia!” yelled the crowd of Welshmen as Roald Dahl basked in the applause. The traditional politicians, those who had served in Parliament for years; they didn’t understand the national mood. But Dahl understood the deepest fears and prejudices of the people, how hard the years had worn down their patience and goodwill. That is why, he thought, I will ultimately vanquish my enemies.
Yeah the "epic plans" that Dahl has with restoring the Empire and expelling the Untermensch out of the country is likely going to end in flames and misery if he is actually successful. We don't actually know if Dahl is actually powerful enough to challenge the establishment and somehow become PM of the country or just end up as another Oswald Mosley.
 
We don't actually know if Dahl is actually powerful enough to challenge the establishment and somehow become PM of the country or just end up as another Oswald Mosley.
I guess it'll depend on the timing of the revelation about White's treachery, if its early enough the Neo-Nazi US will certainly to hold a tight control over Britain as the last bastion of "freedom" in Europe, otherwise it might be taken by another soviet-aligned left wing government like most of Europe

The story seems to be hitting at the former, so I think a fascist alliance between Spain & the UK supported by post-White America might be on the cards here
 

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I guess it'll depend on the timing of the revelation about White's treachery, if its early enough the Neo-Nazi US will certainly to hold a tight control over Britain as the last bastion of "freedom" in Europe, otherwise it might be taken by another soviet-aligned left wing government like most of Europe

The story seems to be hitting at the former, so I think a fascist alliance between Spain & the UK supported by post-White America might be on the cards here

Unless it is a different Fascist Spain I doubt it very much. And not only for Gibraltar. The Francoist school (the one I went to) was full of reminiscences about the (lost) Empire and "La Perfida Albion" (I literally heard that in class) appeared prominently in the tale. In the other hand Franco was a supreme pragmatist so some collaboration wouldn't be impossible. But something like an Spain United Kingdom Axis? Not imho
 
I mean I dont think Spain has much of a choice considering France & Italy are already red and they already have nazis working with them, they dont have to like it but its either that or be steamrolled
That is if the Franco regime survives up to the point where the communist regime falls in America
 

Ramontxo

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Yes in this TL Spain is even more isolated than in OTL. Probably collaboration would follow with an Conservative GB, but it would ever be in an context of mutual distrust.
 
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With all this antisemitism, I wonder if Lazar Kaganovich ended up being the new leader of the USSR after Stalin's death.

It would explain why the antisemitismis still so virulent in the Western World
 
Spain does not even need to collaborate with the United Kingdom. It is enough that they collaborate with the United States, like the UK.

It is not the first time that the United States has collaborated at the same time and against a common threat with two countries that would otherwise hate each other.

The only thing Murika needs is for them not to fight each other, and as long as they do that, it's fine for them.
 
With all this antisemitism, I wonder if Lazar Kaganovich ended up being the new leader of the USSR after Stalin's death.

It would explain why the antisemitismis still so virulent in the Western World
Not necessarely, only White and Morgenthau will be considered enough. You don't need to had a Jew in command of Soviet Union
 
Not necessarely, only White and Morgenthau will be considered enough. You don't need to had a Jew in command of Soviet Union
I just think it would also fit with the dysthopic nature of the TL. OTL Kaganovich was one of the main responsable for the Holodomor and was known as THE Stalinist of the Soviet Union (remember the guy thrown his own brother under the bus).
 
As for "how the hell did white supremacy get into Dahl's campaign", the answer is obvious.

Without a doubt, America pays for Dahl's campaign and TTL America is heavily implicated in supporting white supremacy more than it did in OTL.

So Dahl is meeting the conditions of the guy who signs his paychecks.
 
I just think it would also fit with the dysthopic nature of the TL. OTL Kaganovich was one of the main responsable for the Holodomor and was known as THE Stalinist of the Soviet Union (remember the guy thrown his own brother under the bus).
Kaganovich is only jewish by distant bloodline, he was never practicing nor did he follow any customs of secular Jews. If anti-semitism gets that hot in the USSR that Kaganovich is seen as too Jewish, there is also Molotov, who is also a Stalinist (although more moderate) and a Russian-exceptionalist.
 
Kaganovich is only jewish by distant bloodline, he was never practicing nor did he follow any customs of secular Jews. If anti-semitism gets that hot in the USSR that Kaganovich is seen as too Jewish, there is also Molotov, who is also a Stalinist (although more moderate) and a Russian-exceptionalist.
In my personal experience, i doubt antisemites will care if he was a practicing jew or not. They will just say he was from a jewish family and that somehow this proves the Holocaust isn't real.

Also it would be darkly funny if Stalin ends up less antisemitic as a consequence of his paranoia against the US
 
I just think it would also fit with the dysthopic nature of the TL. OTL Kaganovich was one of the main responsable for the Holodomor and was known as THE Stalinist of the Soviet Union (remember the guy thrown his own brother under the bus).
Of course. My argument was more to the effect that the West, and in particular the anti-Semites, would hate whoever is in charge of the USSR.

Even if the new General Secretary was someone straight out of a Hitlerjugend poster (blonde, blue eyed, muscular, German name) they would still hate him for being "a race traitor" or something.

Kaganovich is only jewish by distant bloodline, he was never practicing nor did he follow any customs of secular Jews. If anti-semitism gets that hot in the USSR that Kaganovich is seen as too Jewish, there is also Molotov, who is also a Stalinist (although more moderate) and a Russian-exceptionalist.
Anti-Semites don't care. They are even more radical with "One Drop Rule" than Jim Crowers ever were.

That is, if you have a Jewish great-great-grandparent, you are a Jew to them, even if you have nothing to do with the Jewish community and all your other relatives are non-Jews.

So I highly doubt it will stop them that Kaganovich doesn't follow Jewish rites and customs. Especially if he's considered to be a communist, and TTL considers communism and Judaism to be one and the same thing.

(I guess I don't need to explain for what reason that thought line is very stupid).
 
I mean I dont think Spain has much of a choice considering France & Italy are already red and they already have nazis working with them, they dont have to like it but its either that or be steamrolled
That is if the Franco regime survives up to the point where the communist regime falls in America
France and Italy are still democracies though. They might have already voted out their communist-led governments by 1953.
 
France and Italy are still democracies though. They might have already voted out their communist-led governments by 1953.
It is possible, but the latest advance seems to imply that in 1953 there is still a Europe under communist domination. Of course, it's very possible that Dahl is exaggerating the severity of the situation to inflame his audience, but it doesn't seem like he's exaggerating too much...
 
Plus, with the US showing itself an unreliable partner who rather than spend much money on rebuilding Europe was busy commiting genocide against Germany, the USSR simply has a much better hand to keep Western Europe under its grip...not to mention the nuclear monopoly, of course
And when the US turns into what is essencially The American Reich I feel like it will only push Europe further into Russia's embrace because "okay they're bad but they're not the literal nazis"
 
Oh my. Seems like antisemitism has been given a new leash of life even after the Holocaust had happened. But I guess anything can happen in a world so f-ed up that J. Edgar Hoover is seen as an actually good guy.
 
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It is possible, but the latest advance seems to imply that in 1953 there is still a Europe under communist domination. Of course, it's very possible that Dahl is exaggerating the severity of the situation to inflame his audience, but it doesn't seem like he's exaggerating too much...
I’m sure that the guy that is comparing Jews to literal monsters is not exaggerating the severity of the situation in Europe /s
 
What are the odds? The guy that wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a huge piece of shit

And Matilda too
For the whole thing with the jews, this is what the wiki says about him, including the referenced quote

Roald Dahl

Death and legacy​

Criticisms​

Anti-Israeli comments​

Dahl reviewed Australian author Tony Clifton's God Cried, a picture book about the siege of West Beirut by the Israeli army during the 1982 Lebanon War.[180] The article appeared in the August 1983 issue of the Literary Review and was the subject of much media comment and criticism at the time.[181][182][183] According to Dahl, until this point in time "a race of people", meaning Jews, had never "switched so rapidly from victims to barbarous murderers." The empathy of all after the Holocaust had turned "into hatred and revulsion."[182] Dahl wrote that Clifton's book would make readers "violently anti-Israeli", with Dahl stating: "I am not anti-Semitic. I am anti-Israel."[184] He asked: "must Israel, like Germany, be brought to her knees before she learns how to behave in this world?"[185] The United States, he said, was "so utterly dominated by the great Jewish financial institutions" that "they dare not defy" Israelis.[182]
Following the Literary Review article, Dahl told a journalist from the New Statesman: "There's a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean there is always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason."[186][187] In 1990, during an interview with The Independent, Dahl explained that his issue with Israel began when they invaded Lebanon in 1982: "they killed 22,000 civilians when they bombed Beirut. It was very much hushed up in the newspapers because they are primarily Jewish-owned. I'm certainly anti-Israeli and I've become antisemitic in as much as that you get a Jewish person in another country like England strongly supporting Zionism. I think they should see both sides. It's the same old thing: we all know about Jews and the rest of it. There aren't any non-Jewish publishers anywhere, they control the media—jolly clever thing to do—that's why the president of the United States has to sell all this stuff to Israel."[188][189] Responding in 1990 to a journalist from The Jewish Chronicle, whom he considered rude, he said: "I am an old hand at dealing with you buggers."[190]
Dahl had Jewish friends, including the philosopher Sir Isaiah Berlin, who commented: "I thought he might say anything. Could have been pro-Arab or pro-Jew. There was no consistent line. He was a man who followed whims, which meant he would blow up in one direction, so to speak."[184] Amelia Foster, director of the Roald Dahl Museum in Great Missenden, says: "This is again an example of how Dahl refused to take anything seriously, even himself. He was very angry at the Israelis. He had a childish reaction to what was going on in Israel. Dahl wanted to provoke, as he always provoked at dinner. His publisher was a Jew, his agent was a Jew... and he thought nothing but good things of them. He asked me to be his managing director, and I'm Jewish."[191] However, as a result of his views, in 2014 the Royal Mint decided not to produce a coin to commemorate the centenary of Dahl's birth because he was considered to be "associated with antisemitism and not regarded as an author of the highest reputation".[189]
Jeremy Treglown, in his 1994 biography, writes of Dahl's first novel Sometime Never (1948): "plentiful revelations about Nazi anti-Semitism and the Holocaust did not discourage him from satirizing 'a little pawnbroker in Hounsditch called Meatbein who, when the wailing started, would rush downstairs to the large safe in which he kept his money, open it and wriggle inside on to the lowest shelf where he lay like a hibernating hedgehog until the all-clear had gone.'"[192] In a short story entitled "Madame Rosette", the eponymous character is termed "a filthy old Syrian Jewess".[192]
In 2020, Dahl's family published a statement on the official Roald Dahl website apologising for his antisemitism.[193][194] The statement says "The Dahl family and the Roald Dahl Story Company deeply apologise for the lasting and understandable hurt caused by some of Roald Dahl’s statements. Those prejudiced remarks are incomprehensible to us and stand in marked contrast to the man we knew and to the values at the heart of Roald Dahl's stories, which have positively impacted young people for generations. We hope that, just as he did at his best, at his absolute worst, Roald Dahl can help remind us of the lasting impact of words."[188] The apology was received with appreciation by Jewish groups but some Jewish organizations, such as the Campaign Against Antisemitism, said that: "For his family and estate to have waited thirty years to make an apology, apparently until lucrative deals were signed with Hollywood, is disappointing and sadly rather more comprehensible."[193]
I'm not really aware of his dark side.
 
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