Our Soviet Union (USSR)
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It is however a problem the Russian Empire already faced, which was why direct control or allies in the baltics, the Balkans (not optimal thanks to Gibraltar and Suez) and even Southern Asia (Iraq and Persia) were high on the list of regions to heavily influence and operate within.
Yes no matter if its USSR or Russian Empire the geopolitical goals and conditions will stay the same - in this case access to warmwater ports
Naturally to some degree, as they inheritated the Imperial problems, challanges and also chances alike to some degree.
Most likely integrated into border SSR or upon a certain regional size getting their own one? As a rogue plan for now?
Way not just focus on building navy for defence,its better to have some then have none
Well comrade i have good news for you and i think that i've found a solution to this problem, at least from the side of Asia/Pacific, unfortunately the situation for now in Europe leaves almost no place for maneuver
Yeah or plans for Transcaucasus and Central Asia OTL.
That at least to some extent would not be a bad idea?
Let's hear it then
As you wish comradeLet's hear it then
My initiative number 11
Solving the perpetual problem - as it was already discussed earlier USSR just like Russian Empire lacks access to any warm-water port. And in order to solve this problem I propose the following
a) long - time solution - put simply reaching a deal with chinese socialist and communist groups right now. USSR will provide our chinese comrades with all resources to achieve the final victory but nothing comes for free - USSR will support China on some conditions - and these conditions will be: 1. After the victory the soviet navy will gain access to all chinese ports 2. After the final victory the future chinese communist government will agree to 99-year lease of Port Arthur to the USSR (similar to British lease of Hong Kong).
b) short - time solution - an agreement withJapanese Empire - here we can use changing geopolitical situation between Japanese Empire and the US and British Empire. As the relations between them become worse and worse and Japan is more and more desperate to gain access to various natural resources , at some point USSR will enter the game by proposing following deal:
1. Non-agression pact between Japan and USSR lets say for 20 years
2. Japan will begin trade with USSR similar to our deal with Germany or France
3. In exchange for our natural resources Japan will invest money into our economy/infrastructure and provide us with various advanced technologies
4. Japan will provide us with a low-interes loan used to rebuild and modernise our port in Vladivostok
5. In exchange for unlimited access to soviet oil Japan will allow USSR to build naval bases in Japanese controlled Korea and/or the Soviet Navy will be allowed to use chinese ports under Japanese control.
What is more right now our ports are in very bad condition and I think that this problem can also be solved without spending a single ruble in the near future - and we will use the greed of the West to achieve it, because they will simply finance it. The justification will be simple, if your country wants to increase the volume of trade with the USSR you have to help us to rebuild and modernize our ports. Unfortunately right now we don't have money, so we will take a low-interest loan from you, which will be repaid when our country is rebuild sometime in the future. And this way the West will finance rebuilding and modernisation of most important Soviet ports on credit of course.
Here's the list of who will finance what port:
Odessa - France
Sevastopol - Italy
Leningrad - Germany
Vladivostok - Japan
Murmansk - British Empire
Arkhangelsk - USA
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Will add that in one of the following chapters
What do you suggest istead? We might take a few examples and then hold a poll ^^
The hammer and sickle has been the symbol of the Union from the beginning, and has become the universal banner of the global communist movement as a whole. Its symbolism perfectly represents the unity of workers and farmers and is by no means backwards. Even if the Union's productive forces have become significantly advanced, the hammer and sickle would still be there as a reminder of what we are fighting for. I propose that the hammer and sickle should remain the USSR's official state symbols.
But Soviet Union is more then just workers and farmers.The flag need to represent the new people the Soviet people and not the class of workers and farmers
Also true, sorry for the short replies, sick with flu at the moment...
That could be a interesting idea, especialy given how the Nazis and Fascist disliked it.
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