Pop-culture of the Kaiserreich

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Charles Vickers and Morfydd Clark starring as the lead roles of former human slave Haldrin Ironfist and fierce elf rebel Ghilanna Starwind in the Torchbearer Streaming Union fantasy show Crowns of Power. Set in a world of high magic and fantastic creatures, it follows our two main characters as they lead a revolution of humans, dwarves, orcs and goblins (as well as some halflings and sympathetic elves) against the oppressive rule of the decedent and cruel Elf Kings.

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Since streaming in September 2022, the show had become an unexpected hit, even gaining popularity outside the Internationale in nations like Japan, Brazil and the German Empire. Critics have universally praised the chemistry of Morfydd's and Charles leading characters, noting the realistic romantic tension between them.
 
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What would the zombie genre be like in KR?
It's probably non-existent due to the butterflies. Or maybe zombie culture would be stuck to voodoo zombies or revenant types.
The genre primarily got its start in the socialist powers and instead of the horror of 'here's a walking corpse and it wants to convert you into another one', 'here's a walking corpse, it can do anything a human can without requiring things like a salary and working conditions and it lacks the free will to disobey orders so sufficiently sociopathic people wants to convert you into one and they've got an army of more walking corpses to do so.' ITTL, Craig Proffitt's The Opulent Life Option, David Wellington's Weaponized, Nick Mamatas' Arbeitskraft and Michael Swanwick's The Dead are considered the classics of the genre.

Maybe a studio in the imperialist powers also tried their hand at a zombie film and ended up with basically Zulu with redcoats vs an evil necromancer witchdoctor and their undead army.
 

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Depends who wins. Probably makes sense for it to take place in a universe where the third international won if you ask me. You know, with the whole ‘red’ dwarf.
The episode 'Out of Time' could easily be adapted for such a KRTL:

Future Kryten: "Kryten, we're epicures now. We travel through history enjoying the very best time has to offer."

Future Rimmer: "Dolphin sweetmeats, roast suckling elephants, baby seal hearts stuffed with dove pate. Food fit for Emperors!"

Future Lister: "We socialize with all of the greatest figures in history -- the Caesars, the Osmans, the Hohenzollerns ..."

Future Kryten: "Why, only last week, Tsar Alexander III threw a banquet especially in our honor."

Future Rimmer: "The man is a complete delight -- urbane, witty, charming ..."

Kryten: "He was a despicable tyrant who lived in the most obscene luxury while the oppressed masses starved in abject poverty."

Future Rimmer: "Well, we certainly didn't see any of that while we were there!"

Future Kryten: "And his wife's an absolute cutie."

Future Cat: "I think they're our favorite hosts. If you don't count the War Powers Commitee in the AUS."

Kryten: "The who?!"

Future Rimmer: "Providing you avoid talking politics, they're an absolute hoot."

Kryten: "You're good friends with the capitalist oppressors and usurpers of the American Union State?!"

Future Kryten: "It's just a social thing. We don't talk about their work. We just have a few laughs, play canasta, and enjoy the odd game of charades with Bill Pelley."

Kryten: "I don't believe what I'm hearing!"

Future Rimmer: "Look, you have to understand -- we travel back and forth throughout the whole of history, and naturally we want to sample the best of everything. It's just a bit unfortunate that the finest things tend to be in the possession of people who are judged to be a bit dodgy."

Kryten: "William Dudley Pelley is a 'bit dodgy'?! "
 
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The genre primarily got its start in the socialist powers and instead of the horror of 'here's a walking corpse and it wants to convert you into another one', 'here's a walking corpse, it can do anything a human can without requiring things like a salary and working conditions and it lacks the free will to disobey orders so sufficiently sociopathic people wants to convert you into one and they've got an army of more walking corpses to do so.' ITTL, Craig Proffitt's The Opulent Life Option, David Wellington's Weaponized, Nick Mamatas' Arbeitskraft and Michael Swanwick's The Dead are considered the classics of the genre.

Maybe a studio in the imperialist powers also tried their hand at a zombie film and ended up with basically Zulu with redcoats vs an evil necromancer witchdoctor and their undead army.
More of the vodoo zombie type then?
 

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‘Swords and Gears: A Study of Fantasy Literature and its evolution within the Internationale’
by Doctor Judith Fairfax, Magdalen College
Collected in the book Essays on Popular Fiction since the Revolutions (New York, 2011)
When it comes to popular fiction within the Internationale in general - and in North America and Britain in particular- speculative fiction has always enjoyed a strong position. Science-fiction, in particular that of a more optimistic type showing better futures made possible by scientific advancements and the brotherhood of humanity, has themes that strongly resonate within the Syndicalist world. As to horror, it is of course a universal genre that works wherever in the world one is.

Fantasy, however, was something that some thought initially might not fit in with the new trends as seen in Syndicalist writing. While this might seem an unusual opinion - especially given the popularity of superhero works such as Superman and Wonder Woman, both of which effectively brought fantastical and mythological tropes into play for the modern age - there was a reason for this, and it lies in the nature of fantasy as a genre. When we look at early pioneers of fantasy, for example pre-Civil War Howard, Tolkien or Lewis, we note the more primitive eras and aesthetics at play, and we in certain works we note the assumption of monarchy as a natural order, at least from the point of view of the protagonists. This, of course, would be antithetical to a dedicated Syndicalist, and would be unpopular to say the least.

This fact, and the corresponding fact that a writer would begin from a point of view of monarchy as a system with severe flaws, ultimately is why fantasy writing developed as it did among Internationale writers: namely, with the establishment of sword-and-sorcery stories as the dominant form of fantasy. Primarily focused as this genre is on individual characters and their exploits rather than wider scope politics, such stories remain universal in their appeal: while one might not enjoy a story about the return of a perfect, ‘rightful’ king to claim an ancient throne and automatically set things right, the reader can enjoy an imperfect barbarian swordsman or swordswoman fighting to stay alive in a world that, while decidedly imperfect, is recognised as such and is all he or she knows.

Moreover, as time went on, the focus on character-driven works would lead to the gradual growth of more subversive protagonists, shown rebelling against or resisting corrupt institutions. This process had begun with pre-Civil War Conan the Barbarian stories, which had as a central theme the decay and corruption of once-powerful empires and kingdoms prior to their eventual conquest. It would be gradually magnified in later stories, stories in which corrupt nobles and priests would become ever-more prominent as Conan’s enemies. This trend would be seen in later works in the genre: Clark Ashton Smith’s Hyperborean stories of the master-thief Satampra Zeiros featured his targeting corrupt priests and nobility for his thefts, as seen in particular in ‘The Theft of the Thirty-Nine Girdles’ which details the corruption of the setting’s priesthood; Anne Donovan’s Tales of Tiana feature the titular swordswoman protecting the poor of her world from rapacious nobles and often taking it upon herself to teach said nobles ‘lessons’ ranging from deadly, as in 1952’s ‘The Serpent Rider’ to merely embarrassing, such as the fate of Lady Hayla in ‘The Crimson Moon Waxes’ of the following year...

...by contrast, there has only been one truly stand-out example of ‘heroic fantasy’ as some have termed it in the Internationale. This is, of course, the Renewal Cycle by Ursula LeGuin. It has been long considered a ‘Syndicalist rebuttal’ to the imitators of Tolkien who were popular in Australasia and Russia during the 1970s. Focused as it is around the wizard Hawke and the shieldmaiden Kyra’s resistance to Valtor, an evil man armed with mythical weapons and claiming he is the prophesied king of the land of Tenar, and ending with a peasant rebellion that puts and end to the age of kings, one can see why...
A movie like this would be popular in the Internationale. Just a bunch of lovable misfits going on a heist against the forces of evil including greedy noblemen.
 
I don't suppose you could help me out? I was looking through there earlier but couldn't find much like that.
Actually they are actually are there, but I think you need some digging in the thread to find it.

I promise you it's there, but it will probably in the middle section likely 30-170 Page
 
I dug through all there before, didn't find much.
Alright hmmm. This may be difficult than I thought, I do think they are there.

But I thought they were pretty more of them when I last see it. maybe check on the recent or the oldest Post?

I don't know pal, maybe you want to create your own post because you seem very interested in the Surviving PSA culture and it will be interesting to read
 

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I already see how German Broadcaster counter that Show with:
DER RING DER NIBELUNGEN
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(Fritz lang Version of 1924, is a time less classic that blows The Ring of Powers out water like a Thermonuclear depth charge...)
What's the plot?
 
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