List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

WI: The many daughters of Henry VIII of England.


Henry VIII of England (1491-1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (1485-1536) -annulled 1533- m. Anne Boleyn (1501-1536) m. Jane Seymour (1508-1537) m. Kathryn Howard (1523-1568)

1a. Stillborn Daughter (1510)

2a. Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1511-1511)

3a. Stillborn Son (1513)

4a. Stillborn Son (1514)

5a. Mary I of England (1516-1558) m. Philip II of Spain (1527-)

1a. Philip, Prince of Wales (1548-1556)​

2a. Stillborn Daughter (1550)​

3a. Henry, Duke of York (1552-1555)​

4a. Catherine I of England (1553-)​

5a. Mary of England (1555-1556)​

6a. Margaret of England (1518-1572) m. Luis, Duke of Beja (1506-1555)

1a. Stillborn Son (1551)​

2a. Maria, Duchess of Beja (1553-)​

3a. Catalina of Beja (1555-)​

7b. Elizabeth of England (1533-1603) [1]
  • never married, had no issue
8b. Miscarried Son (1534)

9b. Anne of England (1536-1539)

10c. Stillborn Son (1537)

12d. Henry, Prince of Wales (1541-1546)

13d. Cecily of England (1542-1609) m. Francis II of France (1544-1568) [2]

1a. Francis III of France (1560-)​

2a. Catherine of France (1561-)​

3a. Henri, Duke of Berry (1564-1567)​

4a. Elisabeth of France (1568-1577)​


[1] In Henry VIII’s will, Elizabeth is named successor, as she is legitimate here because he mother dies in childbirth instead of execution. Mary, Margaret, and their forces manage to overtake London, which is under control of Dowager Queen Kathryn. Kathryn flees to France with her stepdaughter and daughter, abandoning England. The soldiers of London become disillusioned and surrender to Mary.

[2] In France, Princess Cecily, beautiful and regal, is betrothed to young Dauphin Francis, who has better heath than in OTL. An eventual invasion of England is promised to the furious Kathryn and the ambitious Elizabeth. This, of course, never comes. Kathryn marries a minor Baron and has seven more children, while Cecily finds happiness in a grand court as Dauphine and later as regent for her son. Elizabeth never marries, always waiting for the English reconquest that will never come. She dies, bitter and depressed, in France.
 
[1] In Henry VIII’s will, Elizabeth is named successor, as she is legitimate here because he mother dies in childbirth instead of execution. Mary, Margaret, and their forces manage to overtake London, which is under control of Dowager Queen Kathryn. Kathryn flees to France with her stepdaughter and daughter, abandoning England. The soldiers of London become disillusioned and surrender to Mary.

[2] In France, Princess Cecily, beautiful and regal, is betrothed to young Dauphin Francis, who has better heath than in OTL. An eventual invasion of England is promised to the furious Kathryn and the ambitious Elizabeth. This, of course, never comes. Kathryn marries a minor Baron and has seven more children, while Cecily finds happiness in a grand court as Dauphine and later as regent for her son. Elizabeth never marries, always waiting for the English reconquest that will never come. She dies, bitter and depressed, in France.
I have questions.
1) If Mary and Margaret are illegitimate, how are they married off? And why is ANYONE supporting Elizabeth over Mary and Margaret with their impeccable royal bloodline and connections, if the older two girls are married with children? Unless they marry after their father dies? In which case, why are Philip and Luis content to marry bastards?
2) Why does he marry Katherine Howard? He did so IOTL due to a mid-life crisis stemming from Anne of Cleves' rejection, this never happens ITTL
3) Why does Katherine flee to France of all places?
4) Why is there no match for Elizabeth? Even IOTL as a bastard, she had suitors. Did she reject them all? But why? She wouldn't have the fear of marriage that she had IOTL, what with the executions of her mother and cousin being butterflied away and all.
5) Could the dukedom of Beja even be inherited by women? It's not Viseu, I'm also NOT sure about Portuguese dukedoms, just curious here.
6) Going back to question 1 - was Henry trying to push away his oldest daughters by marrying them abroad so they couldn't seize the throne? Because if so, that MASSIVELY backfired (and serves him right)
7) If Cecily marries Francis, what happens to MQOS and the Auld Alliance?
8) Why does Katherine give a shit about who is the queen of England? Her daughter was never going to inherit, she can't rule as regent anyway because all of them are of age, and why exactly is France humoring them with a possible re-conquest?
 
WIP as always
POD is Isabella of Castile and her son Juan dying in 1490 with Fernando remarrying to Juana, la Beltraneja for keeping control of Castile

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon (1452-1518) married a) Isabella, Queen of Castile (1451-1490) in 1469 b) Juana, Queen of Castile (b. 1462) in 1491
  1. a) Isabella (b.1470) married Alfonso VI, King of Portugal (b. 1475) in 1490 with issue
  2. a) miscarried son (1475)
  3. a) John, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1490)
  4. a) Joanna (b.1479) married Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1478) with issue
  5. a) Maria (b.1482) married ?
  6. a) stillborn girl (1482) twin of Maria
  7. a) Catherine (b. 1485) married Arthur, Prince of Wales (b. 1485)
  8. b) Eleanor (b. 1492) married ?
  9. b) John III, King of Spain (b. 1494) married ?
  10. b) Ferdinand (b. 1497) married ?
 
I have questions.
1) If Mary and Margaret are illegitimate, how are they married off? And why is ANYONE supporting Elizabeth over Mary and Margaret with their impeccable royal bloodline and connections, if the older two girls are married with children? Unless they marry after their father dies? In which case, why are Philip and Luis content to marry bastards?
2) Why does he marry Katherine Howard? He did so IOTL due to a mid-life crisis stemming from Anne of Cleves' rejection, this never happens ITTL
3) Why does Katherine flee to France of all places?
4) Why is there no match for Elizabeth? Even IOTL as a bastard, she had suitors. Did she reject them all? But why? She wouldn't have the fear of marriage that she had IOTL, what with the executions of her mother and cousin being butterflied away and all.
5) Could the dukedom of Beja even be inherited by women? It's not Viseu, I'm also NOT sure about Portuguese dukedoms, just curious here.
6) Going back to question 1 - was Henry trying to push away his oldest daughters by marrying them abroad so they couldn't seize the throne? Because if so, that MASSIVELY backfired (and serves him right)
7) If Cecily marries Francis, what happens to MQOS and the Auld Alliance?
8) Why does Katherine give a shit about who is the queen of England? Her daughter was never going to inherit, she can't rule as regent anyway because all of them are of age, and why exactly is France humoring them with a possible re-conquest?
1. They are marrying after their fathers death. Mary is supported because, skipping the reign of Edward VI, much more of England is Catholic. Catholic Europe never considered Mary to be illegitimate, so there would be no reason why the two could not marry.
2. Kathryn is still presented to him at court, and he decides to skip the whole political marriage to marry his “love”.
3. Scotland is supporting Mary, and the Habsburg lands are a big no-no. So France is all that is left, really. I also think France would want to have a card to play against the Hapsburgs (Elizabeth and Cecily).
4. Yes, she rejects them all. She promises herself to not marry until she is Queen. Her refusal could also be chalked up to snobbishness.
5. Frankly, it’s irrelevant, the King of Portugal could have easily gifted it to Maria of Beja.
6. Question irrelevant, as both married after Mary was Queen.
7. Mary is not that important here, since both her elder brothers survive.
8. I think Kathryn, who seemed to be somewhat naive, came under the influence of Protestants, and converted. She does not want England Catholic, and expected to be Elizabeth’s regent. Kathryn seems to have been genuinely fond of Elizabeth, and would have rather had her as Queen over Mary, whom she disliked. France never actually intends to invade England, only use Elizabeth and Cecily and bargaining chips.
 
PODs:

-Sigismund the Old has a son with Barbara Zapolya

-Ferdinand Habsburg and his wife Anna Jagiellon die from some plague before 1526

Thus after Mohacs line of Vladislaus II rex bene is gone and his closest living relatives are Polish-Lithuanian Jagiellons. Czechs and Hungarians, in absence of male line heirs of Vladislaus, can elect whom they want, but it is Sigismund's son, who gets the throne in the end, because:

-In absence of Austrian candidate Polish one gives hope for some Polish support against Ottomans.

-Janos Zapolya, brother of Barbara, supports his candidature. Being power behind the throne of young nephew is safer option that directly claiming the crown. Other magnates would accept it easier than elevating one of themselves above others.

-Bona Sforza would want her step-son out of the country (so her own son would get Poland and Lithuania) and would urge Sigismund to claim Bohemia and Hungary for older son.

Sigismund I (1467-1548) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland, m. a) Barbara Zapolya (ca. 1490-1515) b) Bona Sforza (1494-1564)

1a) Vladislaus III (1513-1566) King of Bohemia and Hungary 1526, m. Margaret of Brandenburg (1511-1577)

2a) Hedwig (1515-1520)

3b) Isabella (1519-1559) m. Charles (1522-1558) Duke of Orléans [1]

4b) Sigismund II (1520-1572) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1548, m. Dorothea of Denmark (1520-1580)

5b) Hedwig (1522-1576) m. Severinus (1522-1563) Duke of Saxony

6b) Anna (1523-1596) m. Charles Victor (1525-1577) Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel

7b) Sophia (1526-1583) m. Ferdinand (1529-1588) Holy Roman Emperor [2]

8b) Albert (1527-1581) Duke of Bari and Rossano, m. Anna d'Este (1531-1607)

[1] Does not die from plague ITTL

[2] Second son of HRE Charles V and Isabella of Portugal, succeeded him on Imperial throne and inherited Austria and Burgundy.
 
1. They are marrying after their fathers death. Mary is supported because, skipping the reign of Edward VI, much more of England is Catholic. Catholic Europe never considered Mary to be illegitimate, so there would be no reason why the two could not marry.
2. Kathryn is still presented to him at court, and he decides to skip the whole political marriage to marry his “love”.
3. Scotland is supporting Mary, and the Habsburg lands are a big no-no. So France is all that is left, really. I also think France would want to have a card to play against the Hapsburgs (Elizabeth and Cecily).
4. Yes, she rejects them all. She promises herself to not marry until she is Queen. Her refusal could also be chalked up to snobbishness.
5. Frankly, it’s irrelevant, the King of Portugal could have easily gifted it to Maria of Beja.
6. Question irrelevant, as both married after Mary was Queen.
7. Mary is not that important here, since both her elder brothers survive.
8. I think Kathryn, who seemed to be somewhat naive, came under the influence of Protestants, and converted. She does not want England Catholic, and expected to be Elizabeth’s regent. Kathryn seems to have been genuinely fond of Elizabeth, and would have rather had her as Queen over Mary, whom she disliked. France never actually intends to invade England, only use Elizabeth and Cecily and bargaining chips.
Got it. (Wait - why is Scotland supporting Mary?)
 
The many sisters of Edward VI - my version
NOTE: Only surviving children are included, miscarriages and stillborns are excluded but they still happened. Katherine of Aragon, Eleanor of Austria, and Jane Seymour died in childbirth whereas Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard both agreed to an annulment on the basis of consanguinity (in Anne's case - her sister Mary; in Katherine's case - her cousins Anne AND Mary), keeping their daughters legitimate in good faith. Katherine Parr still outlives him and remarries Thomas Seymour as dowager queen. After Edward's death, an almighty war is going to break out.

Henry VIII (1491-1547) m. 1509 Katherine of Aragon (1485-1518) [a] m. 1518 Eleanor of Austria (1498-1524) m. 1525 Anne Boleyn (1507-1536) [c] m. 1536 Jane Seymour (1508-1537) [d] m. 1540 Katherine Howard (1523-1541) [e] m. Katherine Parr (1512-1548) [f]

1a. Katherine b. 1510 d. 1533 m. 1525 John III of Portugal b. 1502 d. 1557 with issue
2a. Mary b. 1516 d. 1558 m. 1533 m. Francis of France b. 1518 d. 1536 without issue [a] m. Philip of Palatinate-Neuburg b. 1503 d. 1548 with issue
3a. Margaret b. 1518 d. 1518 never married and no issue
4b. Eleanor b. 1519 d. 1526 never married and no issue
5b. Joanna b. 1522 m. 1539 Sigismund II Augustus b. 1520 no issue
6b. Cecily b. 1524 m. 1540 Charles of Orleans b. 1522 d. 1545 without surviving issue
7c. Elizabeth b. 1525 d. 1603 never married and no issue
8c. Anne b. 1528 m. Maximilian II b. 1527 with issue
9c. Jacquetta b. 1531 m. Emmanuel Philibert of Savoy b. 1528 with issue
10c. Bridget b. 1532 became nun
11d. Edward VI b. 1537 d. 1553 never married and no issue
12e. Joyce b. 1541 m. Charles Brandon 3rd Duke of Suffolk b. 1537 without surviving issue
- no issue with Katherine Parr -
 
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WIP as always
POD is Isabella of Castile and her son Juan dying in 1491 with Fernando remarrying to Bianca Maria Sforza for preventing Aragorn from being inherited by his Portuguese enemies

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon (1452-1518) married a) Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1491) in 1469 b) Bianca Maria Sforza (b. 1472) in 1492
  1. a) Isabella II, Queen of Castile (1470-1496) married Alfonso VI, King of Portugal (b. 1475) in 1490 with issue
  2. a) miscarried son (1475)
  3. a) John, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1490)
  4. a) Joanna (b.1479) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) with issue
  5. a) Maria (b.1482) married Vladislaus II, King of Hungary and Bohemia (b. 1456) with issue
  6. a) stillborn girl (1482) twin of Maria
  7. a) Catherine (b. 1485) married Arthur, Prince of Wales (b. 1485)
  8. b) John III, King of Aragon (b. 1493) married Isabella III, Queen of Castile (b. 1492) with issue
  9. b) Ferdinand III, King of Naples (b. 1494) married Giulia of Aragon, Princess of Taranto and Duchess of Andria (b. 1492)
  10. b) Blanche (b. 1496) married Ercole Maria Sforza, Duke of Milan (b. 1493)
  11. b) Eleanor (b. 1498) married Charles II, Duke of Burgundy and Savoy (b. 1498)*
  12. b) Beatriz (b. 1499) married John III, King of Portugal (b. 1498)**

*Charles is son of Margaret of Austria, Duchess of Burgundy and her husband Philibert II, Duke of Savoy
**John is son of Alfonso VI and his second wife Joanna of Aragon-Naples, niece of Ferdinand II
 
WIP as always
POD is Isabella of Castile and her son Juan dying in 1491 with Fernando remarrying to Bianca Maria Sforza for preventing Aragorn from being inherited by his Portuguese enemies

Ferdinand II, King of Aragon (1452-1518) married a) Isabella I, Queen of Castile (1451-1491) in 1469 b) Bianca Maria Sforza (b. 1472) in 1492
  1. a) Isabella II, Queen of Castile (1470-1496) married Alfonso VI, King of Portugal (b. 1475) in 1490 with issue
  2. a) miscarried son (1475)
  3. a) John, Prince of Asturias and Girona (1478-1490)
  4. a) Joanna (b.1479) married Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1459) with issue
  5. a) Maria (b.1482) married Vladislaus II, King of Hungary and Bohemia (b. 1456) with issue
  6. a) stillborn girl (1482) twin of Maria
  7. a) Catherine (b. 1485) married Arthur, Prince of Wales (b. 1485)
  8. b) John III, King of Aragon (b. 1493) married Isabella III, Queen of Castile (b. 1492) with issue
  9. b) Ferdinand III, King of Naples (b. 1494) married Giulia of Aragon, Princess of Taranto and Duchess of Andria (b. 1492)
  10. b) Blanche (b. 1496) married Ercole Maria Sforza, Duke of Milan (b. 1493)
  11. b) Eleanor (b. 1498) married Charles II, Duke of Burgundy and Savoy (b. 1498)*
  12. b) Beatriz (b. 1499) married John III, King of Portugal (b. 1498)**

*Charles is son of Margaret of Austria, Duchess of Burgundy and her husband Philibert II, Duke of Savoy
**John is son of Alfonso VI and his second wife Joanna of Aragon-Naples, niece of Ferdinand II
Margaret inheriting Burgundy and getting kids with philibert? Maria in Bohemia and Hungary? Surviving Sforza Milan? I love it!
 
The full trees for Henry VIII’s heiress

Henry VIII, King of England (1492-1550) married a) Catherine of Aragon (1485-1537) in 1509 annulled 1533 b) Anne Boleyn, Marquess of Pembroke (1507-1534) in 1533, c) Mary of Guise (1515-1542) in 1535, d) Katheryn Howard (b. 1522) in 1542, had relationship with e) Elizabeth Blount and f) Jane Seymour
  1. a) stillborn daughter (1510)
  2. a) Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1511)
  3. a) stillborn son (1513)
  4. a) stillborn son (1515)
  5. a) lady Mary Tudor (b. 1516)
  6. e) Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond and Somerset (1519-1536) married Mary Howard (b. 1519) without issue
  7. b) Elizabeth, Queen of England (b. 1533) married John II of Austria, King of Lorraine (b. 1534) with issue
  8. b) miscarried son (1534)
  9. c) Anne of England (b. 1536) married John, Elector Palatine (b. 1634) with issue
  10. c) Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1537)
  11. f) stillborn son (1537)
  12. c) miscarriage (1538)
  13. c) Antonia of England (b. 1539) married Eric XIV, King of Sweden (b. 1533) with issue
  14. c) Edward, Prince of Wales (1540-1544)
  15. c) Eleanor of England (b. 1541) married Alexander IV, King of Scotland (b. 1540) with issue
  16. c) Margaret of England (b. 1542) married Karl Friedrich, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1543) with issue
  17. d) Katherine of England (b. 1544) married Charles II, King of Spain (b. 1545) with issue
  18. d) Edmund, Prince of Wales (1545-1549)
  19. d) Joanna of England (b. 1546) married Francis II, King of France (b. 1538) with issue
NOTES:
John of Austria is the fourth child and second surviving son of Charles V and Isabella of Portugal (in OTL he was stillborn)
John, Elector Palatine is the son of Frederick of the Palatinate and his ATL wife Anne of Cleves
Alexander IV of Scotland is the second but elder surviving son of James V and Madeleine of France
Karl Friedrich of Jülich-Cleves-Berg is the son of William the Rich and his ATL wife Anne of Lorraine
Francis II of France is the son of Francis III of Brittany, Dauphin of France and Isabella of Poland


Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (1500-1558) married Isabella of Portugal (1503-1539) in 1526
  1. Philip II, King of Spain (b. 1527) married a) Maria Manuela of Portugal (1527-1545) in 1543, b) Maria of Viseu(b. 1521) in 1549
    1. a) Charles II, King of Spain (b. 1545) married Katherine of England (b. 1544) with issue
    2. b) Ferdinand, Duke of Viseu (b. 1550) married ?
    3. b) Manuel (1552-1555)
    4. b) Isabella Clara Eugenia (b. 1555) married ?
    5. b) Joanna (1556-1557)
    6. b) Maria (b. 1557) married ?
  2. Maria (b. 1528) married Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1527) in 1545 with issue
  3. Ferdinand (1529-1530)
  4. John II, King of Lorraine (b. 1534) married Elizabeth Tudor, Queen of England(b. 1533) in 1548
    1. Henry IX, King of England and Lorraine (b. 1550) married Isabella II, Duchess of Lorraine (b. 1550) with issue
    2. Anne Isabella (b. 1552) married Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1547) with issue
    3. Charles, Duke of York (1555-1560)
    4. John, Duke of Bedford (b. 1557) married ?
    5. Elizabeth (b. 1558) married ?
    6. Catherine (1560-1563
  5. Joanna (b. 1537) married John Manuel, Prince of Portugal(b. 1537-1554) in 1552
    1. Sebastian, King of Portugal (1554-1560)
  6. John (1537-1538)
  7. stillborn son (1539)

Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor (1503-1564) married Anna of Bohemia and Hungary (1503-1547)
  1. Elisabeth (1526-1545) married Sigismund II Augustus, King of Poland (b. 1520) in 1543 without issue
  2. Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1527) married Maria of Spain(b. 1528) in 1545
    1. Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1547) married Anne Isabella of England (b. 1552)
    2. Anne (b. 1549) married ?
    3. Philip (1551-1552)
    4. Rudolf (b. 1552)
    5. Ernest (b. 1553) married ?
    6. Elisabeth (b. 1554) married ?
    7. Maria (1555-1556)
    8. Matthias (b. 1557) married ?
    9. stillborn son (1557)
    10. Maximilian (b. 1558), grandmaster of the Teutonic Order
    11. Albert (b. 1559), cardinal
    12. Wenceslaus (1561-1578)
    13. Frederick (1562-1563)
    14. Maria (1564-1564)
    15. Charles (1565-1566)
    16. Margaret (b. 1567), nun
    17. Eleonore (1568-1580)
  3. Anna (b.1528) married Albert V, Duke of Bavaria (b. 1528) in 1546 with issue
  4. Ferdinand , Archduke of Austria and Count of Tyrol (b. 1529) married ?
  5. Maria (b. 1531) married Sigismund II Augustus, King of Poland (b. 1520) in 1546 with issue
  6. Magdalena (b. 1532), nun
  7. Catherine (b. 1533) married Alfonso II, Duke of Ferrara and Modena (b. 1533) in 1549 with issue
  8. Eleanor (b. 1534) married William I, Duke of Mantua (b. 1538) in 1550 with issue
  9. Margaret (b. 1536), nun
  10. John (1538-1539)
  11. Barbara (1539-1562) married Francis II, King of France (b. 1538) with issue
  12. Charles II, Archduke of Austria (b. 1540) married ?
  13. Ursula (1541-1543)
  14. Helena (b. 1543), nun
  15. Joanna (b. 1547) married Francis I, Grand Duke of Tuscany (b. 1541) with issue

James V, King of Scotland (1512-1547) married Madeleine of France (1520-1547) in 1537
  1. James, Duke of Rothesay (1538-1543)
  2. Alexander IV, King of Scotland (b. 1540) married Eleanor of England (b. 1541)
  3. Madeleine of Scotland (b. 1541) married ?
  4. Robert, Duke of Albany (b. 1542) married Elizabeth of Orléans (b. 1545)
  5. John, Duke of Ross (b. 1544) married Madeleine d’Orléans (b. 1456)
  6. Arthur of Scotland (1545)
  7. Margaret of Scotland (b. 1546) married ?

Francis I, King of France (1494-1547) married a) Claude of France, Duchess of Brittany (1499-1524) in 1514 b) Eleanor of Austria (b. 1498) in 1530
  1. a) Louise (1515-1517)
  2. a) Charlotte (1516-1524)
  3. a) Francis III, Duke of Brittany (1518-1540) married Isabella of Poland (b. 1519) in 1536
    1. Francis II, King of France (b. 1538) married a) Barbara of Austria (1539-1562) in 1554, b) Joanna of England (b. 1546) in 1563 with issue by both
    2. Anne of France (b. 1540) married Ludovico II Sforza, Duke of Milan (b. 1538) in 1557 with issue
  4. a) Henry, Duke d’Orléans (1519-1546) married Catherine de Medicis (b. 1519)
    1. Charles, Duke d’Orléans (1544-1552)
    2. Elisabeth d’Orléans (b. 1545) married Robert, Duke of Albany (b. 1542) with issue
    3. Madeleine d’Orléans (b. 1546) married John, Duke of Ross (b. 1544) with issue
  5. a) Madeleine (1520-1547) married James V, King of Scotland (1512-1547) with issue
  6. a) Charles, Duke d’Angoulême (1522-1547) married Jeanne III, Queen of Navarre (b. 1528) in 1543
    1. John IV, King of Navarre (b. 1544) married ?
    2. Henry of Navarre (b. 1545) married ?
    3. Marguerite of Navarre (b. 1547) married ?
  7. a) Margaret (b. 1523) married Emmanuel Philibert, Duke of Savoy (b. 1528) in 1542 with issue
 
John II, King of Naples (b.1398: d.1479) m. Blanche I, Queen of Navarre (b.1387: d.1441) (a), Juana Enríquez (b.1425: d.1468) (b), Marie d'Orleans (b.1457: d.1493) (c)

1a) Charles, Prince of Viana (b.1421: d.1461) m. Agnes of Cleves (b.1422: d.1446) (a)​
- had no issue
2a) Juana, Infanta of Navarre (b.1423: d.1425)​
3a) Blanche II, Queen of Navarre (b.1424: d.1464) m. Henry IV, King of Castile (b.1425: d.1474) (a) -annulled 1453-​
- had no issue
4a) Eleanor I, Queen of Navarre (b.1426: d.1479) m. Gaston IV, Count of Foix (b.1422: d.1472) (a)​
- had issue​
5b) Maria, Infanta of Aragon (b.1452: d.1516) m. Alfonso II, King of Naples, Sicily and Aragon (b.1448: d.1495) (a)​
1a) Eleanor, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1466: d.1512) m. Gian Galeazzo Sforza, Duke of Milan (b.1469: d.1494) (a)​
1a) Ludovico Sforza, Duke of Milan (b.1494)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1468)​
3a) Beatrice, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1471: d.1534) m. Jean II, Lord of Albret (b.1469: d.1516) (a)​
1a) Louise d'Albret (b.1491)​
2a) Alphonse I, Lord of Albret (b.1494)​
3a) Marguerite d'Albret (b.1496: d.1498)​
4a) Charlotte d'Albret (b.1499)​
5a) Charles d'Albret (b.1503)​
6a) Simon d'Albret (b.1505: d.1507)​
4a) John, Infante of Naples (b.1472: d.1477)​
5a) Isabella, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1474: d.1546) m. Francis II, Duke of Brittany (b.1433: d.1488) (a), John IV of Chalon-Arlay, Prince of Orange (b.1443: d.1503) (a)​
1b) Philip of Chalon-Arlay, Prince of Orange (b.1494)​
2b) Stillborn Son (c.1495)​
3b) Nicholas of Chalon (b.1497)​
4b) Catherine of Chalon (b.1498: d.1499)​
5b) Stillborn Son (c.1500)​
6b) John of Chalon (b.1502)​
6a) Alfonso III, King of Aragon, Naples and Sicily (b.1478: d.1534) m. Eleanor, Infanta of Castile and Portugal (b.1475: d.1497) (a), Margaret of Austria (b.1480: d.1530) (b)​
1b) Stillborn Son (c.1499)​
7a) Charles, Infante of Aragon, Naples and Sicily (b.1479: d.1502) m. Catherine I, Queen of Navarre (b.1468: d.1517) (a)​
- had no issue
8a) Maria, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1482: d.1505) m. Philip I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1479: d.1527) (a)​
1a) Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1500)​
2a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1503)​
3a) Frederick, Archduke of Austria (b.1504)​
9a) Ferdinand, Infante of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1485: d.1523) m. Ana, Infanta of Castile (b.1488: d.1514) (a), Isabella of Coimbra (b.1497: d.1518) (b)​
1a) Maria, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1507)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1510)​
3a) Joanna, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1512)​
4b) Alfonso IV, King of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1517)​
10a) Joanna, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1488: d.1519) m. Arthur Tudor, Prince of Wales (b.1486: d.1501) (a), Henry VIII, King of England and Ireland (b.1491: d.1547) (a)​
1b) Elizabeth Tudor, Princess of England (b.1507)​
2b) Stillborn Daughter (c.1510)​
3b) Henry Tudor, Prince of Wales (b.1512: d.1525)​
4b) Stillborn Son (c.1515)​
5b) Edward VI, King of England and Ireland (b.1518)​
11a) Blanche, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1490: d.1553) m. Juan III, King of Castile (b.1483: d.1537) (a)​
- had issue​
6b) Joanna, Infanta of Aragon (b.1455: d.1517) John II, King of Portugal (b.1455: d.1495) (a), Manuel, Duke of Beja (b.1469: d.1521) (b)​
1a) Alfonso VI, King of Portugal (b.1470: d.1502) m. Bianca Maria Sforza (b.1472: d.1512) (a)​
1a) Antonio I, King of Portugal (b.1496)​
2a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1473)​
3a) John, Duke of Coimbra (b.1477: d.1507) m. Catarina of Braganza (c.1480: d.1546) (a)​
1a) Isabella of Coimbra (b.1497: d.1518) m. Ferdinand, Infante of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1485: d.1523) (a)​
- had issue​
2a) Charles, Duke of Coimbra (b.1500)​
3a) Ferdinand, Infante of Portugal (b.1502)​
4a) Beatrice of Coimbra (b.1505)​
5a) Edward, Infante of Portugal (b.1507)​
4a) Joanna, Infanta of Portugal (b.1483: d.1508) m. Henry VII, King of England (b.1457: d.1509) (a)​
1a) Edmund, Duke of Bedford (b.1506)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1508)​
7c) Alfonso, Prince of Girona (b.1474: d.1477)​
8c) Isabella, Infanta of Aragon (b.1478: d.1492) m. Gian Galeazzo Sforza, Duke of Milan (b.1469: d.1494) (a)​
1a) Isabella Sforza (b.1492: d.1493)​

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Isabella I, Queen of Castile (b.1451: d.1504) m. Charles, Duke of Berry (b.1446: d.1472) (a), Afonso V, King of Portugal (b.1432: d.1481) (b), Frederick, Prince of Squillace (b.1452: d.1504) (c)

1a) Isabella, Infanta of Castile (b.1470: d.1500) m. Francis Phoebus, King of Navarre (b.1467: d.1483) (a), Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1459: d.1519) (b)​
1b) Eleanor, Archduchess of Austria (b.1495: d.1500)​
2b) Frederick, Archduke of Austria (b.1497: d.1498)​
3b) Elisabeth, Archduchess of Austria (b.1500)​
4b) Stillborn Son (c.1502)​
2a) Alfonso, Prince of Asturias, Duke of Berry (b.1472: d.1479)​
3b) Eleanor, Infanta of Castile and Portugal (b.1475: d.1497) m. Alfonso III, King of Aragon, Naples and Sicily (b.1478: d.1534) (a)​
- had no issue
4b) Maria, Infanta of Castile and Portugal (b.1477: d.1478)​
5c) John III, King of Castile (b.1483: d.1537) m. Blanche, Infanta of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1490: d.1553) (a)​
1a) John IV, King of Castile (b.1508)​
2a) Isabella, Infanta of Castile (b.1511)​
3a) Denis, Infante of Castile (b.1513)​
4a) Charles, Infante of Castile (b.1514: d.1527)​
5a) Ferdinand, Infante of Castile (b.1516)​
6a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1518)​
7a) Henry, Infante of Castile (b.1520)​
6c) Ferdinand, Infante of Castile (b.1485: d.1486)​
7c) Stillborn Son (c.1486)​
8c) Ana, Infanta of Castile (b.1488: d.1514) m. Ferdinand, Infante of Aragon, Sicily and Naples (b.1485: d.1523)​
- had issue​
 
Eleanor of Austria (1498-1558) m. a) Manuel I (1469-1521) King of Portugal, b) Sigismund I (1467-1548) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland [1]

1a) Charles (1520)

2a) Maria (1521-1577) m. Francis III (1518-1546) Duke of Brittany, Dauphin of France

1) Claude (1538-1572) m. Philip II (1527-1598) King of Spain​
2) Francis II (1540-1566) King of France 1547, m. Mary (1542-1599) Queen of Scots​
3) Charles IX (1541-1596) King of France 1566, m. Henriette of Cleves (1542-1601)​
4) Louis (1543)​
5) Anne (1546-1622) m. Charles III (1543-1608) Duke of Lorraine​

3b) Albert II (1527-1590) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1572, m. Elizabeth of Austria (1554-1592)

1) Sigismund III (1574-1626) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1590, m. Maria Anna of Bavaria (1574-1616)​
2) Albert (1576)​
3) Hedwig (1578-1633) m. Ferdinand (1578-1637) Archduke of Styria​
4) Elizabeth (1580-1640) m. Albert Frederick II (1580-1629) Duke of Prussia [2]​
5) Sophia (1582-1584)​
6) Vladislaus (1583-1604)​
[1] Main PoD: Claude of France does not die in 1524, Bona Sforza dies instead.

[2] Surviving son of Albert Frederick and Marie Eleonore of Cleves.
 
Eleanor of Austria, grandmother of Europe

Eleanor of Austria (1498-1558) m. 1518 Manuel I of Portugal (1469-1521) [a] m. 1522 Henry VIII (1491-1547) m. 1530 Francis I of France (1494-1547)

1a. Charles (1520-1521)
2a. Maria (1521-1577) m. 1537 James V of Scotland (1512-1542) [a] m. 1543 Philip II of Spain (1527-1498) with issue by both
3b. Eleanor (1523-1550) m. Sigismund II Augustus (1520-1572) with issue
4b. Joanna (1525-1570) m. Afonso VI of Portugal (1526-1600) with issue
5b. Henry (1527)
6b. Katherine (1528-1577) m. Emmanuel Philibert of Savoy (1528-1580) with issue
7c. Philip (1532-1588) m. Elizabeth Tudor (1533-1603) with issue
8c. Louise (1533-1568) m. Alfonso II d'Este (1533-1597) with issue
9c. Isabella (1535-1539)
10c. Louis (1537-1600) became cardinal but had illegitimate issue
11c. Francis (1538)


Notes: Manuel died as IOTL, Katherine of Aragon died in childbirth with her last pregnancy leaving Mary legitimate and eventually Holy Roman Empress as Charles V's second wife (ITTL Isabella died giving birth to Joanna), and Eleanor's marriage with Henry was annulled on the basis of consanguinity but in reality because she did not produce living sons for him. Elizabeth Tudor is Henry's daughter with Anne Boleyn, his third wife ITTL, who never succeeds as queen because Anne did not miscarry her sons. Alfonso VI of Portugal is the oldest son of John III of Portugal and Catherine of Austria who ITTL survived. No doubt there will be many reasons why this is ASB, but :p
 
One of those matches that was considered and refused OTL, but could've had a major impact:

Henri IV, King of France & Navarre (b.1553) 1m: 1572 Marguerite de Valois (1553-1583[1]); 2m: [2] 1585 Christine, Duchess of Lorraine [3] (b.1565)

Henri, Dauphin de France (1589-1595)​
Charles X, King of France & Navarre, Duke of Lorraine [as Charles IV] (b.1592)​
Élisabeth [4] Catherine (b.1594)​
Christine Antoinette (b.1596)​
Louis (1598)​
Nicolas [5] François, Duc d'Orléans (b.1600)​
Henri, Duc d'Anjou (b.1602)​
Anne [6] Marguerite (b.1604)​
[1] dies of the illness that everyone believed was a bastard pregnancy
[2] this match was offered by Catherine de Medicis OTL, but Henri declined
[3] her brothers are killed in the Wars of Religion
[4] named for Queen Elizabeth
[5] OTL this name of Henri's second son is fictional, but with St. Nicolas being the patron saint of Lorraine, I thought why not
[6] was supposed to be Jeanne - after Henri's mom - but there were objections to this from the Catholics since Henri's eldest daughter is already named after one Protestant queen

@isabella @Valena @VVD0D95 @HortenseMancini @King of Danes @Jan Olbracht @Tarabas
 
And another one, specially for @King of Danes :

Karl I, Elector Palatine [1650-1680] (1618-1680) m: 1650 Charlotte of Hesse-Kassel (1627-1686)

Karl II, Elector Palatine [1680-1685] (1651-1685) m: 1671 Eberhardine Katharina of Württemberg (b.1651)​
Friedrich VI[1] Eberhard, Elector Palatine [from 1685] (b.1672) m: 1699 Luise Dorothea of Prussia (b.1680)​
Karl Friedrich, Erbprinz of the Palatinate (b.1703)​
Elisabeth Sophie (b.1708)​
Ludwig Eberhard (b.1709)​
Rupprecht (b.1674)​
Sophie Charlotte (1675-1677)​
Karl Christian (b.1678)​
Elisabeth Katharina (b.1680) m: 1695 Willem IV, Prince of Orange (b.1671)[2]​
Willem Hendrik (b.1697)​
Isabella Katharina (b.1699)​
Karel Maurits (1700-1707)​
Charlotte Amalie (b.1704)​
Rupert Lodewijk (b.1707)​
Luise Henriëtte (1710)​
Anna Karoline (b.1683) m: Karl II, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel [3] (b.1680)​
Karl (1701-1705)​
Wilhelm, Erbprinz of Hesse (b.1703)​
Friedrich (b.1704)​
Anna Karoline (1706-1708)​
Karl [6] (b.1716)​
Elisabeth Charlotte (b.1652) m: 1667 Christian V, King of Denmark (1646-1699)​
Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark (1673-1694)​
Carl I, King of Denmark & Norway [from 1699] (b.1677) m: 1692[4] Teresa Kunigunde Sobieska (b.1676)​
Elisabeth Amalie (b.1695)​
Carl, Crown Prince of Denmark (b.1697)​
Stillborn Son (b.1698)​
Christian (b.1700)​
Teresa Christine (b.1701)​
Johan (b.1703)​
Sophie Charlotte (b.1678) m: Joseph I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1679)[5]​
Maria Josepha (b.1701)​
Leopold II Christian, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1703)​
Stillborn Daughter (1705)​
Karl Friedrich, Archduke of Austria (b.1708)​
Maria Elisabeth (b.1709)​
Maria Karoline (1711-1713)​
Elisabeth Christine (b.1680) m: 1695 Carl XII, King of Sweden (b.1682)​
Kristina Hedwig (b.1705)​
Carl, Crown Prince of Sweden (1707-1709)​
Elisabeth Amalie (b.1708)​
Carl, Crown Prince of Sweden [6] (b.1710)​
Anna Dorothea (b.1681)​
Christian (b.1683)​
Georg (1686-1687)​
[1] I know the choice of name is probably a bit unlikely, but given how Karl II disliked his dad, I could see him going for this
[2] son of William III and Charlotte Amalie of Hesse-Kassel (Princess Mary survived to remarry to Prince Rupert)
[3] Friedrich of Hesse-Kassel dies somehow and his brother survives
[4] the match is arranged between Sobieski's daughter and a spare prince of Denmark - as was proposed OTL - and then oh shit, the heir, who was supposed to marry Carl XII's sister, kicks the bucket unexpectedly (hunting accident, drinking bout, chokes on a chicken bone)
[5] a Danish match is probably still considered here, difference being that with Liselotte's "lax" approach to religion, it might actually go through
[6] because royalty has absolutely no originality :p

@Valena @isabella @HortenseMancini @Atterdag @Jan Olbracht @Milites @VVD0D95 @The_Most_Happy @TheBeanieBaron
 
Elisabeth Charlotte (b.1652) m: 1667 Christian V, King of Denmark (1646-1699)​
Interesting match, what’s the rationale?

Elisabeth Christine (b.1680) m: 1695 Carl XII, King of Sweden (b.1682)​
Kristina Hedwig (b.1705)​
Carl, Crown Prince of Sweden (1707-1709)​
Elisabeth Amalie (b.1708)​
Carl, Crown Prince of Sweden [6] (b.1710)​
So what are the implications for the great northern war? Does Hedwig Sofia still marry Frederick of Holstein-Gottorp?

Anna Dorothea (b.1681)​
Christian (b.1683)​
Georg (1686-1687)​
Does Christian die young? Otherwise he’d be the logical candidate to fulfill the Danish-Swedish double marriage.


[4] the match is arranged between Sobieski's daughter and a spare prince of Denmark - as was proposed OTL - and then oh shit, the heir, who was supposed to marry Carl XII's sister, kicks the bucket unexpectedly (hunting accident, drinking bout, chokes on a chicken bone)
And that’s why you make sure your heir gets married before you marry off your second sons. So they can “fill the gap” if big bro puts away his clogs too earkly. ;)

[5] a Danish match is probably still considered here, difference being that with Liselotte's "lax" approach to religion, it might actually go through
If Denmark accidentelies into a Catholic Queen i think there would be a few rumblings and grumblings about a second Catholic match

[6] because royalty has absolutely no originality :p
I mean why break from tradition? Three generations of Carls and counting.
 
Interesting match, what’s the rationale?
Unavailability of Charlotte Amalie of Hesse-Kassel for Christian (complete with Lizelotte's father feud with his brother who is Willem of Orange's stepfather ITTL) results in Sophie Amalie of Brunswick looking for Liselotte as a match for her son. Given how Lizelotte was brought up at the court of Sophie Amalie's brother, she may come with the recommendation of "unlikely to compete for position of first lady" which can be accepted.
 
A Different Anne

Margaret of Austria m. Philibert II of Savoy d. 1510(a)
1a. Mary of Savoy b. 1501 m. Sigismund the Old
2a. Anne of Savoy b. 1506 m. Henry VIII



Henry VIII m. Catherine of Aragon d. 1525(a) Anne of Savoy(b)

1a. Mary b. 1516

2b. Elizabeth b. 1526

3b. Margaret b. 1533

4b. Edward VI b. 1537
 
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