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The Philadelphia TL is a world in which the USA is more willing to throw money around in order to expand, however all the new taxes and such that had to be implemented brought more support to the secessionists in the south. The south in this TL was generally just a bit more competent, and efficient than in our reality. I tried to put most of the information into the map, so if you want to know something that I didn't include there, just ask me about it. Also, this is a multiverse TL, which is what the "Philadelphia" is referring to, although this is before contact is made between the universes.

This maps shows the contiguous state, so territories like Alaska aren't shown.
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I was trying to do something similar for my canon Kaiserreich TL!

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(Kinda) West vs East in post WW2 Kaiserreich :

Washinton Pact

Prussian blue : United States
Deep blue : American democratic allies (read puppets) Liberia, Gold Coast, Ireland, Mexico, Denmark
Light blue : American despotist allies (puppets again) - Nigeria, France, England, Scotland, Wales, West Germany, Greater Netherlands
Purple : Also despotist with Carribean territories.

Moscow Accord : From Norway to Iran
Olive Green : Russia

Co-Prospherity Sphere :

Bright yellow : Japan
Cream yellow : Democratic puppets
Tibet, Thailand and Indonesia are respectively despotist (OTL with the Dalai Lama), Nationalpopulist (Phibun) and Greater Malaysia/Indonesia is Market Liberal
Orange is the Legation Cities which is nationalpopulist as well and is connected throughout the coast plus Singapore.
Hawaiian Kingdom despotist

South American Defence Alliance (custom faction created by me in this "canon") :

Empire of Brazil
(New) Gran Colombia
Paraguay
Chile
Argentina
Peru-Bolivia (the only country who is not Nationalpopulist but Market Liberal)

Italian Federation allies :

Illyria
Algeria
Albania
Tunisia
Egypt
Eritrea
Amhara (fictional)
Sidamo (fictional)
Oromia (fictional)

Spain and Portugal got larger and the latter with a few African puppets

Blank countries are neutral and unaligned.From Burkina Faso to Sinkiang the only democracy is the Arab Republic with its capital Sanaa (Yemen went liberal) and the South African Civil War was one by Natal.

Undecided what to do with Alaska
 
Russian Colonization of Hokkaido, by myygz
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Russian Colonization of Hokkaido
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1. There wouldn't have been such name as "Hokkaido" (Japanese: 北海道 / ほっかいど) for "Northern Sea Region" and Japanese prefer the usage of the traditional word "Ezochi" (Japanese: 蝦夷地 / えぞち) for "land of Ezo people"(Ezo is an offensive term to call Hokkaido indigenous). But some radical Japanese nationalists proposed the concept "Northern Territories"(Japanese: 北方領土 / ほっぽうりょうど, Hoppōryōdo) comprising of Hokkaido and Southern Kuril Islands which are believed to belong to Japan since ancient time.
2. The result of the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-1905 was changed a little. For Japan had to split some troops to attack Hokkaido and Russia had a military harbor in Northern Hokkaido, Russia avoided a great military failure in Manchuria theater. Following the peace truce signed in 1905, Japan controlled 2/3 Hokkaido, but at the end of World War II, the USSR launched a full-scale invasion of Hokkaido and crushed the Japanese garrison troops in Hokkaido.
3. The Golovnin Line, spreading along the southwestern mountains of Hokkaido, was a fictional Russo-Japanese border line named after the Golovnin Incident that Russian explorer and naval captain, Vasily Golovnin in 1811 was captured by Japanese soldiers in accordance of Japan's policy of isolationism (Sakoku). He was considered as the national hero which broke the isolationism of Japan and brought Russian "civilization" to this far eastern land.
4. In the earliest lore, in 1947, Hokkaido, Sakhalin, and the Kuril Islands were included in the Ezo Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic of Russian SFSR, but the Ezo ASSR was disbanded two years later and Hokkaido became an oblast of Russia again. By the year 1991, under protest of native Japanese, the Russian government agreed to return Southern Hokkaido to Japan, but the territorial dispute over other land has still existed.
5. Muravyovsk was named after Russian admiral and explorer
Nikolay Nikolayevich Muravyov-Amursky who played a major role in the expansion of the Russian Empire into the AmurRiver basin and to the shores of the Sea of Japan.
 
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Alright, I have a few questions pertaining to my unfinished map/scenario, but since my post was gaining no traction in the thread, I thought I would also share the post here.


Alright, I've been playing around with a map in my free time, the first I have ever felt comfortable sharing on this forum. It is unfinished, and I would like to ask for some help on a few points.

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I have adapted this from the 1885 map helpfully provided in the original post of the current WorldA thread.

The basic premise is as follows: with a point of divergence at some point in the 1850s, a global conflict breaks out in the 1860s when several geopolitical flashpoints - the sectional crisis in the United States, territorial and maritime disputes between the United States and the United Kingdom (eventually leading to Franco-British support for the South once they secede from the Union), Austro-Prussian tensions, Austro-Italian tensions, Franco-Prussian tensions, and Russo-Turkish tensions - all boiling over at around the same time, leading to two ad hoc coalitions supporting one another.

Column A
  • United States of America
  • Kingdom of Italy
  • Kingdom of Prussia and allied German states
  • Russian Empire
Column B
  • Confederate States of America
  • Austrian Empire
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
  • French Empire
  • Mexican Empire (French puppet)
  • Ottoman Empire
The war ends in victory for Column A. The Austrian and Ottoman empires collapse entirely, their territory largely partitioned between the victors. Seized by a wave of German nationalist sentiment, Berlin absorbs much of Cisleithania (pretty much what we would consider Austria proper today, as well as the Czech lands). Italy annexes not only Venetia, but also South Tyrol, Istria, and other bits of the Dalmatia coast that had previously belonged to Austria, while Russia takes Galicia, Lodomeria, and Bukovina. Russia's biggest awards lie to the south, though: they take control not only of Constantinople, but the entire Turkish straits region, as well as an area of Eastern Anatolia roughly corresponding to the borders of Wilsonian Armenia. They also support Bulgaria's claims to full San Stefano borders, in addition to other parts of Thrace. Going back to Italy, they are also granted Tunisia, Tripolitania, and Malta, and are never compelled to cede any territory to France in the west.

France and Britain are punished much less harshly. In addition to Alsace-Lorraine, they also give up their Indochinese territories to Germany, and lose Corsica to Italy and Saint Pierre and Miquelon to the United States. Washington also wins Canada in the settlement, as well as the British colonies in Bermuda and the Bahamas. Needless to say, the Confederacy is crushed, and America also takes some more of Northern Mexico.

The map depicts the status quo as of ten or fifteen years after the war ended. You will note that the United States has taken some other territory here or there by war or transaction.

Now, I fully admit some of the borders from other maps, particularly...
With my sources cited, here are my big questions...
  • What might the borders of the various Central and Southeastern European states look like after the war? Hungary gains independence from Austria, but can it expect to lose more territory to Germany, Russia, Italy, Romania, or anyone else? What might Romania's borders look like? Serbia? Croatia? Albania? And especially Greece, given that I am not entirely sure whether they would enter the war or not. If they did, it would likely be as a British ally, no? If they stay neutral, might the victors award them with some more territory, such as Smyrna and its environs at the expense of Turkey or Cyprus at the expense of Britain?
  • Speaking of which, who are some other potential major participants in this war? Might Spain somehow become embroiled in the conflict? What about Persia? I could plausibly see them fighting either Russia or the Ottoman Empire, but again, would they participate at all, and how would they be rewarded or punished territorially depending on their side?
  • The Middle East is a big area of concern for me. My idea is that the Ottoman Empire loses de facto or de jure control of any land outside of core Turkish territory, but what does that look like in practice? Would we see independent Arab or Kurdish states? Would more of the Middle East be divided into European colonies or protectorates in a manner similar to the aftermath of the First World War in our timeline? If so, who gains? Might Britain actually make some inroads in the territory of its former ally? I had thought about a Jewish state being carved out of the Levant, but this was before Zionism really took off, right? Would that be plausible?
  • How might the aftermath of this war impact colonization efforts in Sub-Saharan Africa and elsewhere?
  • As it stands, does the United States gain too much territory at the expense of the British Empire in the Atlantic than might plausibly be expected? Could they even get away with taking more from Britain and France in the Caribbean? Or is it just right?
  • As long as Russia is technically defeating Britain in a conflict, might they take the opportunity to encroach upon London's sphere of influence in Central Asia? What might that look like?
Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated!
 
The future, not ours [2101], by Kaiser1871
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The future, not ours [2101]​

Preamble:
After much thought, I still have not concluded how I want to see the description for this map. Should it be a solid timeline, an overview of the current situation, or just a dry description? I stopped at the lore scraps of information from this world since this is the most interesting way for me; I was very pleased with the result in the Mongols vs Rome. I also took the liberty of experimenting with colors, I hope you enjoy it.

In short: the large-scale collapse of the Mesoamerican classic civilization did not happen. The ASB clearly had a hand in this, canceling either a large-scale drought or long grueling wars. The Maya civilizations continued to flourish and eventually developed strong trade and maritime traditions. Teotihuacan wasn’t abandoned and continued to dominate Mesoamerica, although eventually, it became only a nominal center of power in the empires of other Amerindian peoples. On the other side of America, the Vikings managed to stay in peace with the indigenous people and to establish successful settlements in Vinland without losing contact with Europe until the onset of the Little Ice Age. This allowed America to experience the mini-version of the Columbian exchange relatively smoothly; the tribes of America became familiar with European technology, horses, and deadly diseases that slowly seeped inland. The empires of Mesoamerica replaced each other until another wave of Chichimecs invaders from Aridoamerica destroyed one of them and established their long-lived dynasty. At the same time, in 1502, an English-sponsored expedition of Rupert Peay sailed from the Far East in search of the mythical continent described in Scandinavian legends...

End of Out of character.

Monopoly on the Continent, from Eddy Endberg's A Story of Two Vinlands (1997)
...the English could not keep their discovery a secret from the world for a long time. The flow of outlandish goods that flooded European markets, the drunken tales of English sailors about the ‘second India’ in European ports, and simple espionage did their job. In 1529, a French ship arrived at the shores of Anahuakl, in 1531 - an Iberian ship, in 1533 - a ship from Pisa. The European caravans rushed to the new continent, established trading outposts on the islands of the Taino Sea and the shores of the Anahuakl Bay. England tried in vain to sink foreign ships and to demand from the Pope to declare all Vinland the property of the English crown. In a series of maritime trade skirmishes and European wars of religion, England's trade dominance was undermined. England would return here only in the 18th century during the conquest of Central Vinland by a Western Trading Company.

The Diaspora, from 14-year-old Louise Sandstrom's address to the Assembly of the Council of Nations on the Issues of the Nordic Diaspora (2040)
My people first arrived on the Vinland shores in 1003, 500 years before the Englanders. They had strained relationships with the locals, but over time they learned to work together for the sake of survival and the common good. They created a culture that is still admired by some of the finest researchers at the leading Vinland universities. After the rediscovery of Vinland in 1502 and the arrival of Europeans, my people were able to reunite with their distant relatives from Europe. This was the golden era of Franco-Nordic cooperation. Unfortunately, under heavy pressure from the new post-war European order, France had to leave its colony in the 1970s and leave us with them. I have no right to use here the words that we call them because of the atrocities they used against us, dear residents. You call them the Reeds, ‘indigenous Vinlanders’. My grandparents were forced to leave their homes closer to the coast due to persecution and constant arsons. My parents were forced to flee to Iceland due to direct death threats from the Anicinape government. How much longer will you turn a blind eye to this? How much more will my people suffer? I ask, no I demand, you have to take action...

Scramble for Vinland, from the video of the popular sci-pop videoblogger Oleg Stroy (2030)
And so in 1886, European diplomats gathered in London to solve the Vinland problem. No one wanted a repetition of the Ooi River incident, which almost escalated into a pan-European war. After a series of negotiations and secret agreements, new borders were drawn, everyone shook hands and flew home. Yes, this is how the fate of an entire continent was decided. The Europeans used their existing colonies on the east coast to finally divide Vinland like a pie. So the English, who already owned most of Anahuakl, got the Misizibi's basin, and even Nihon got a piece of the cake. Local tribes and small states could not oppose anything to the European military machine at the peak of its power. The division of the continent on an unprecedented scale was an incredible success. In a couple of years, the same fate will befall Africa.

‘God is an Englishman’, from King Edward II's speech to his peoples in Minster Square, British Union (1931)
I greet you, my dear fellow citizens! <cheering> I am glad to see each of you here today! Every person who comes here today can rightfully consider himself a true Britt! <cheering> The same applies to our dear fellow citizens in other cities of Albion and our overseas colonies <cheering> And yet I gathered you here for a reason. <ten-second silence> 20 years ago, our fellow citizens fought in the Great War, waged an equal fight with all of Europe, and almost won! <shouts of approval> This war was the inevitable consequence of continentals' envy for our power, our influence, our wealth, our vast empire! <cheering> We were on the brink of victory!... But our generals thought differently. <hooting> They betrayed us and made a truce. My father... <the king pauses, the crowd silenced> my father was furious, but I still remember his words that day: ‘Fools, only delayed the inevitable. Britain will rule the world.' <cheering> You know well the names of those traitors. <crowd shouting names> they have been punished. <cheering> Traitors and cowards will never again command our armies. Our army is stronger than ever, we have taken advantage of these 20 years, unlike the lazy continentals. <cheering> I did not gather you here to brag. I have gathered you here so that, here and now, with all of you, dear fellow citizens, to declare war on those whom we were prevented from finishing off 20 years ago. <cheering> All our industrial power will fall on Europe. Britain will rule! YOU will rule! <loud shout from the crowd>
The ensuing second round of the Great War claimed the lives of 30 million in Europe and the colonies. With its end, European world domination began its slow path to decline.

The End of Humiliation, a text generated by a personal neural network for Lou Young (2098)
The Tiwanaku Empire was the longest-lived civilization in southern Vinland. It dates back to the 2nd century AD, although according to the legends of the Aymars, their statehood begins long before Anno Domini. When the Europeans arrived, their empire stretched from the Taino Sea to the southern tip of the Andes and had close trade contacts with the Anahuakl region. The Emperor was very interested in trade with European aliens and even received European ambassadors with honors at his palace in Tiwanaku. Unfortunately, the remoteness of the Andes from the north of Vinland made them the most unprepared people for European diseases. European plague killed up to 70% of the Empire’s population, the country plunged into chaos. After a short-term military rule, the country broke up into dozens of small dynasties and remained in this state until the 17th century; until the Mapuches’ conquest and the founding of the Wutanmapu Empire.
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By the late 19th century, the once great and vast empire of Wutanmapu was a pitiful sight. The juvenile emperors were replaced every 10 years and were puppets in the elites' hands. The more technologically advanced Europeans fought off trade preferences and spheres of influence with impunity. Poverty reigned in the country; bloody popular uprisings arose every thirty years. Only after the Second Round of the Great War one of these uprisings led by Mayhuasa succeed in overthrowing the puppet emperor and declaring the Citizens’ Republic of the Andes. A slow painful modernization of the country began and then continued by Mayhuasa’s followers.
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By the beginning of the 21st century, the CRA burst into the tops, turning from an impoverished country into an industrial economic giant. In all indicators, only Sarmatia was ahead of the Andes. The country possessed a huge sphere of influence, the economy continued to grow, as did human resources. All analysts of that time prophesied them world hegemony by the 2060s, but the subsequent Taino War forever changed both the Vinland and the world picture.
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Egypt and France, Long Divorce, from a lecture by street historian Antonio Porier (2089)
Come on, come on friends! If you did not come on notification, then I inform you, today I will tell you the long history of relations between France and Egypt... <shout out from the crowd> What-what? Well, yes, that's right. It is Gallia from now on. For a couple of hours, bore! Yes, everyone, Happy Independence Day of Gallia, guys! Independence from the former colony. So, our story begins in a teen’s favorite period of history - in the Golden Age of Europe - the end of the 19th century. Inspired by a sense of their exclusivity and, of course, an advantage in technological development, Europeans bring the benefits of their civilization to far-flung corners of the earth. Under secret European treaties, by chance, Egypt found itself in the sphere of French interests. We will not go into details of exactly how this happened, otherwise, you will wander home. So the world is divided. What to do next? That's right, quarrel and try to re-divide it. The Great War has begun! Now we will not go into the details of this war, I will have a lecture about it in Saint Laurent Square this Saturday, I am waiting for you there. In short and on the subject, during the second round, the British Union occupies entire continental France in a swoop, the government and army flees to the Maghreb, and later to where? <shouts> Right! To Alexandria. This is where it all begins. King Henri III was so imbued with the Egyptian culture that after the defeat of the British and the beginning of the reconstruction of France, he often visited here on summer holidays. Thirty years later, his son Emanuel declared Egypt a part of France. After 20 years, the capital of France was officially moved to Alexandria. Here's a story. France has become a backyard in the state of France with its capital in Egypt! Naturally, the French people rebelled more than once, during the Blue October of 2001 and during the infamous Paris stand in 2022, but they did not achieve anything. Only ten years ago Saint-Simon and the movement Décolonisation inversée, barely uttered it pheh, began a slow and hard political work to split France, now Gallia, and Egypt, now Misr. And, as you can see from today's news, the guys did it. Let's wish them the best of luck! Bonne chance! Good luck to you too, my friends! Do not forget to support me with money if you are interested in my work.

You slept through the end of the world! From a telephone conversation between two friends, Anicinape Republic (2053)
-...hello?
-hey dude wake up! You slept through the end of the world!
-man, it’s 9 am. Have you been awake all night?
-yes, I monitored the situation in the Taino Sea, my sleepy friend. You’ll never guess what happened.
-what?
-Anahuakl and Misizibi exchanged nuclear strikes.
-mmm... Wait what?
-yes-yes.
-what does Misizibi have to do with it? In the evening, there was a conflict between Anahukl and the CRA.
-well, technically it wasn't a war. They were preparing for war. Then, apparently, Misizibi, under pressure from the Andes, attacked Anahuakl.
-and those launch nukes?
-yelp.
-you are kidding me. And what about CRA?
-It is not yet clear what will happen next. It is not even clear how many people died. My father has already gone down to the basement, heh. I said I would join later.
-some kind of bullshi...

The nuclear exchange of 2053 took the lives of 15 million people. Anahuakl lost a couple of cities while Misizibi was totally destroyed. The ensuing migration and environmental crisis, as well as the intervention of the Council of Nations, changed the situation in the region and the world. CoN has regained its prestige and threw off the status of a talking club. Andes and Anahuakl went to the negotiating table and resolved many territorial disputes in the Taino Ocean. The subsequent quiet coup in the CRA changed their policy; aggressive foreign actions were replaced by a peaceful existence with neighbors and an orientation towards continued trade dominance.

13.1. A look back into the 21st century, from the controversial book Things to Pass (2099)
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‘Peace is our goal’
I now give a word to Anne Lorraine, Speaker for the English Republic.
Thank you. I hardly prepared the speech today and I do not want to waste your time with prefaces. Our world is now in great danger. As you know, a huge hurricane is now raging off the coast of Majapahit Confederation and their government believes that this is an Andean climate weapon. The fleets of both powers patrol the Endless Ocean and miraculously have not collided with each other three times in a combat clash. As far as I know, there are already languid firefights in their disputed territory on White Continent. We all know that in the event of a war, both powers will release their entire arsenal of climate weapons at each other, and we all know that this will lead to a global environmental disaster. In this regard, I, represented by the English Republic and eight other countries, express my protest and insist on holding urgent negotiations between Majapahit and the CRA. Right now, we are inviting other countries to join us and not silently wait for the end of the world. If our conditions are not met, we will be forced to impose heavy sanctions on them; the more countries join us, the more severe the consequences will be. Peace is our goal, and we will achieve it at any cost.


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Credits:
North American borders are heavily inspired by this map.
Basemap by Zauberfloete21
 
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Crossposting from the MotM contest as usual. Comments, questions, all are welcomed. And it's my first map of the year + my first map of the thread, may there be many more to come!

The Soul of Russia
the paths NOT taken by Vladimir the Great

The chronicles tell us about how in the year 987 AD Vladimir, Prince of Kiev sent emissaries to various foreign nations, inquiring about the religion practiced in their lands, seeking to choose which of them would be better for his people: Judaism, Islam or Christianity, and from Christianity, to choose between the Eastern and Western rites. Hearing back from those emissaries, and comparing their experiences, especially in regards to the joyfulness of the people and of its religious celebrations, Vladimir made the decision to embrace the Eastern rite of Christianity, leading to the Orthodox Russia we all know and love.

Of course, we know quite well that this story is just that, a story meant to illustrate what in reality was in truth political, with the influence of Constantinople pushing the prince firmly into Orthodoxy, regardless of how festive church celebrations were in the East or the West. This story of emissaries is but a metaphor for a much more complicated and much ore political process. But, in any case, let's take the metaphor, and think of what would happen to Russia, had the political situation favored anything other than Constantinople, with two particular examples of paths not taken, that to Rome and that to Mecca.

Catholic Rus (the Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth)
The idea here being that, without the religious differences, the PLC would eventually absorb the Rus principalities into its domain, creating a large and inflated realm, that doesn't expand that far east to begin with.
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Islamic Rus (the Horde continues)
The point is that an Islamic Russia would ultimately become more culturally integrated with the Tatar peoples to its south, since already OTL Tatar became a fashionable language of Russian nobility, a trend which could be expected to increase with no religious barrier, creating a Turkified upper class, which then would improve the odds of those polities formed from the ruins of the Mongol Empire. I chose the Giray dynasty symbol because I like them in particular.
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Finding cities for the Islamic Rus map was more difficult than expected. I tried to make a more northwest-southeast imbalance from one map to the other, but I don't know how noticeable that is. The idea of a flourishing Islamic civilization flourishing in the Volga River ruled by the Mongols is interesting, but it proved hard to accomplish. I'm also unsure how anachronistic a lot of the map is, but I wanted to give a feel of the depth of the Volga Basin, and of the more urban-tribal structure of the Horde, which again I'm not sure if I've been able to implement that well. I am more satisfied with how the Catholic map turned out.

That being said, I do like the aesthetic of the maps. The colouring turned out pretty well, and the rivers look very good (I thought of adding more, but I'm satisfied with the final look now that I see it). Maybe I could have added some more depth to them (roads? churches? idk) but time is already running out anyway, it was a frantic holiday season.

Anyway, hope everyone likes them.
What happens to Novgorod in this scenario?
 
A while back, I posted a map set in Syria and the surrounding coutries. It was mostly an experiment in style, but this map is set in the same universe.

Like with the last map, this is mostly an experiment in style.

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Interesting, so we're talking 2001CE here?
What's happened to Ottomans & Mamluks, come to that what's happened in Europe
If I did my math right with the Era of Martyrs (Anno Martyrum) calendar and the Hijri calendar (Anno Hegirae), the date on the map should actually be 1950 C.E.

As to the Mamluks, they are gone while the Ottomans are still around, in a reduced capacity. The POD is 1422 though certain elements of history remained conservative in the changes (outside of France and England) for at least the next hundred years.

The Ottomans lost control of Egypt at the end of the 18th century to a sort of Napoleonic-esque invasion (though instead of an up-jumped Corsican, it was a man from an relatively obscure Welsh family). However, unlike Napoleon, the Europeans never left Egypt. Egypt's history post-conquest is one of the great horrors of this world, as it rose up in rebellion twice during the 19th century, one of which reduced the country to famine and plague during a Mahdist war equivalent before the rebellion was put down. These rebellions, coupled with the religious oppression, land confiscations, etc, by the Europeans which caused those rebellions in the first place, creates a demographic disaster more akin to Ireland's following the famine. For the last few decades of the 19th century, Egypt's greatest export is her people, especially her young adults. The population declines from around 8 million in 1880 to around 5 million by 1930 before the population begins to climb up again.

The Ottomans are reduced in territorial extent, but are considered part of the Free World, since they aren't subject in some form to the Holy Roman Empress, who dominates about half of Europe. Europe could be generally divided between Imperial Catholic Western Europe, and the Protestants/Orthodox/and Muslims going further east. South Eastern Europe has a larger muslim population, for example.
 
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(Not to be taken 100% realistically.)

The Germanic Americas

The Black Death would devastate Europe in the 14th century, but nowhere like Southern Europe, where the Romance-speaking peoples of France, Italy, Spain, and Portugal were devastated, killing off any possible future ideas of colonial empires for those countries. As a result, the Germanic and Slavic nations of Europe feared that the Muslims of north Africa would come over to invade, so those nations in response began moving in and conquering those territories in order to fortify Europe against the "Islamic threat", regardless of what the native inhabitants thought. Gradually, a sense of "Germanic destiny" arose, seeing the nations and peoples of the Holy Roman Empire, Britain, Scandinavia, and the other nations are destined to dominate not just Europe, but also eventually the World, so when a German explorer and his crew discovered a new continent while trying to find a new trade route to Asia in 1492, landing instead in what would've become the Bahamas IOTL, many saw this as their first major opportunity to prove themselves as colonizers and conquerors in the name of Germanic civilization.

It is now the 18th century, and the five major powers of the land we know as the Americas are the Holy Roman Empire, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Denmark-Norway. The Holy Roman Empires, having now been in control of most of Southern Europe, truly began to see itself as the true successor of the Romans, to which it began working hard on their navigational abilities, sailing across the Atlantic and landing in the lands of the Inca and Mesoamerica, moving in and conquering said nations and peoples, usually brutally, and then afterward sending German, Czech, Swiss, Italian, Polish, Slovenian, and various other Central European pioneers and settlers to colonize the new lands before them, of course at the expense of the native peoples and their way of life, but with also alot of interracial marriages happening as a result. Great Britain would find success in the eastern seaboard of North America, forming the 13 Colonies, with the Dutch and Sweden leaving their touch beforehand, particularly in the area where New York City would be founded, so pretty much like IOTL. The Netherlands, kicking themselves and feeling cheated out of North America, would move down into South America into the lands known IOTL as Brazil, where their Portuguese friends would've colonized and dominated IOTL, creating a huge colony out of OTL Brazil and Dutch Suriname, becoming to the Netherlands what Brazil was to Portugal and the rest of the Lusophone world in general. Sweden would enter Canada and Louisiana, forming a nice big blob of Scandinavian culture and people in between the Holy Roman Rio Grande and California and the British 13 Colonies, with the areas that would've become the American Midwest, the Ozarks, and Lousiana IOTL having an influence of Swedish instead of French, with them also grabbing Haiti along the way too. Denmark-Norway in lieu of the old legends of Vinland and Leif Eriksson would colonize a little bit of Newfoundland and the nearby neighboring Canadian islands, before moving downwards to find more success in the Caribbean and South America, taking numerous islands and taking a chunk of land next to Dutch Suriname and Brazil that would've become French Guinea IOTL.

As of 1748, the Americas are shaping up to be a very interesting and culturally diverse place, with the five European powers shaping the continent in their own image, while the native American peoples either fight back, flee into the unclaimed wilderness, or are forced to integrate into the white man's lands. Meanwhile, Russia - after conquering Siberia - is looking to colonize Alaska, and to form their own colonial empire like the ones of the West...

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After much thought, I still have not concluded how I want to see the description for this map. Should it be a solid timeline, an overview of the current situation, or just a dry description? I stopped at the lore scraps of information from this world since this is the most interesting way for me; I was very pleased with the result in the Mongols vs Rome. I also took the liberty of experimenting with colors, I hope you enjoy it.

Sigh. This is the second time in under a week where I've been ninja'd on maps: first I had plans for a world map for Victories of the Heart, but bang! Up goes a fiiiine map by the original author. Then I started on a "Vikings stay in North America" scenario from the Beyond Time collection, and someone comes up with another "Vinland" scenario - in a largely "Munroist" style better than mine is ever going to be. [1]

Very nice map and scenario, and the lore is presented in an entertaining fashion. Re Bolgaria/Romei: did the Bulgarians take over a crumbling Byzantine empire and then reconquer its former territories in Anatolia, but failed to pull off a Spanish-type religious/cultural reconquista?

Quibble: I gotta say, I don't really believe this bit. Egypt for a variety of reasons can't play the role of Empire of North America to France's Britain. (What do you mean by "imbued with the Egyptian culture?" Does he and/or his son convert to Islam?)

This is where it all begins. King Henri III was so imbued with the Egyptian culture that after the defeat of the British and the beginning of the reconstruction of France, he often visited here on summer holidays. Thirty years later, his son Emanuel declared Egypt a part of France. After 20 years, the capital of France was officially moved to Alexandria. Here's a story. France has become a backyard in the state of France with its capital in Egypt!

[1] Aside from people doing basic paint type maps better than I do, there's just so much quality map-making now, based on fancy imaging programs, that I often feel, to quote the late great SJ Perelman, that I have been asleep for the last twenty years and everyone is jeering at my unkempt hair and rusty fowling piece.
 
(Not to be taken 100% realistically.)

The Germanic Americas

The Black Death would devastate Europe in the 14th century, but nowhere like Southern Europe, where the Romance-speaking peoples of France, Italy, Spain, and Portugal were devastated, killing off any possible future ideas of colonial empires for those countries. As a result, the Germanic and Slavic nations of Europe feared that the Muslims of north Africa would come over to invade, so those nations in response began moving in and conquering those territories in order to fortify Europe against the "Islamic threat", regardless of what the native inhabitants thought. Gradually, a sense of "Germanic destiny" arose, seeing the nations and peoples of the Holy Roman Empire, Britain, Scandinavia, and the other nations are destined to dominate not just Europe, but also eventually the World, so when a German explorer and his crew discovered a new continent while trying to find a new trade route to Asia in 1492, landing instead in what would've become the Bahamas IOTL, many saw this as their first major opportunity to prove themselves as colonizers and conquerors in the name of Germanic civilization.

It is now the 18th century, and the five major powers of the land we know as the Americas are the Holy Roman Empire, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Denmark-Norway. The Holy Roman Empires, having now been in control of most of Southern Europe, truly began to see itself as the true successor of the Romans, to which it began working hard on their navigational abilities, sailing across the Atlantic and landing in the lands of the Inca and Mesoamerica, moving in and conquering said nations and peoples, usually brutally, and then afterward sending German, Czech, Swiss, Italian, Polish, Slovenian, and various other Central European pioneers and settlers to colonize the new lands before them, of course at the expense of the native peoples and their way of life, but with also alot of interracial marriages happening as a result. Great Britain would find success in the eastern seaboard of North America, forming the 13 Colonies, with the Dutch and Sweden leaving their touch beforehand, particularly in the area where New York City would be founded, so pretty much like IOTL. The Netherlands, kicking themselves and feeling cheated out of North America, would move down into South America into the lands known IOTL as Brazil, where their Portuguese friends would've colonized and dominated IOTL, creating a huge colony out of OTL Brazil and Dutch Suriname, becoming to the Netherlands what Brazil was to Portugal and the rest of the Lusophone world in general. Sweden would enter Canada and Louisiana, forming a nice big blob of Scandinavian culture and people in between the Holy Roman Rio Grande and California and the British 13 Colonies, with the areas that would've become the American Midwest, the Ozarks, and Lousiana IOTL having an influence of Swedish instead of French, with them also grabbing Haiti along the way too. Denmark-Norway in lieu of the old legends of Vinland and Leif Eriksson would colonize a little bit of Newfoundland and the nearby neighboring Canadian islands, before moving downwards to find more success in the Caribbean and South America, taking numerous islands and taking a chunk of land next to Dutch Suriname and Brazil that would've become French Guinea IOTL.

As of 1748, the Americas are shaping up to be a very interesting and culturally diverse place, with the five European powers shaping the continent in their own image, while the native American peoples either fight back, flee into the unclaimed wilderness, or are forced to integrate into the white man's lands. Meanwhile, Russia - after conquering Siberia - is looking to colonize Alaska, and to form their own colonial empire like the ones of the West...

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Is this just... the 1748 worlda OTL basemap but with the colors changed?
 
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