Now I want to see an alternate history story... Cowboys & Cossacks. Have it be an international championship of animal herders. Or just an annual event in Big Tex’s Ameriwank America. We could even add whatever the Argentinian and Uruguayan cowboys call themselves into the mix.
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
- Thread starter Beedok
- Start date
The thing about that is that the cossacks were the big drivers for Russian expansionism, in a very similar way to how the cowboys/vaqueros/homesteaders were in the Americas, though the big difference is that the Cossacks were military bands rather than just ranch herders and did not have the benefit of industrialization, but rather the steppe lifestyle that mixed with a sedentary one. They have a culture built around it and everything, and it is thought that they come from many different though predominantly East slavic backgrounds. They're probably everyone's popular imagination of what a old Russian person looks like:
There probably are quite a lot more Cossack descended people in Russia, mainly because the cossacks were the ones who came in and settled in the region, and ethnic affiliation was not nearly as big a deal as the lifestyle. However, the effects of the Soviet genocide against them definitely altered what was there before, and many hosts such as those in the former Russian turkestan and central asia have been completely disbanded. Though obviously the identity is present in certain regions of Russia, and I've read that they are apparently still active in post-soviet states, even participating in the wars in ukraine. Which is just wild
Intriguing! Hmmmm... can't see how this could've ever gone wrong
Probably go with something bland and generic, so as not to piss off any of the constituent states... "Socialist Federated States of East Africa" or something like that...
Pateros old territories by kazumikikuchi on DeviantArt
www.deviantart.com
BusinessWorld | Pateros’ claim over Fort Bonifacio reaches SC anew
PATEROS’ CLAIM over its neighboring areas, including bulk of the affluent Fort Bonifacio, has reached the Supreme Court (SC) for the second time.
www.bworldonline.com
Judging by the way things are going in Ethiopia right now, it would have been hellish
Crazy Boris
Banned
“Congratulations, Somalia, you will finally be united with your brothers and sisters in Ogaden!”
*cheering*
“Under the leadership of the Derg in Addis Ababa!”
*silence followed by the sounds of guns being loaded*
Things were pretty bad then, between Mengistu in Ethiopia and Siad Barre in Somalia.... it's no wonder that Djibouti/Afars and Issas voted at least once (I think) to remain a French dependency... whether this scheme would've at least improved stability in the area, I have my doubts... I'd imagine it would last about as long (and work about as well
) as any of those "United Arab Republic" schemes from back in the '60's I've been working on getting all of California's historical county borders onto the VT-BAM, and I decided to map some of the proposals for the division of California at the same time (since most just use county borders, or a simple straight line on some latitude). Here are the two most interesting/important (in my opinion). If you want me to put some more in here, I can.
The Territory of Colorado, as it was officially voted on and accepted by the government of California in 1859. (it was pretty much just ignored by the US congress).
(removed image due to it being based on false information)
The plan to enlarge and then trisect the state of California in 1855. I assumed that the horizontal straight line borders of the eastern counties would simply be continued to the new eastern end of the states, as that makes the most sense to me. The states would be called Shasta in the north, California in the middle, and Colorado in the south. It is noted that there was generally little opposition to this proposal, but many people believed that it would likely be unconstitutional. As with the later proposal from above, it was mostly ignored because of more pressing political issues in the US government.
(removed image due to it being based on false information)
The plan to enlarge and then trisect the state of California in 1855. I assumed that the horizontal straight line borders of the eastern counties would simply be continued to the new eastern end of the states, as that makes the most sense to me. The states would be called Shasta in the north, California in the middle, and Colorado in the south. It is noted that there was generally little opposition to this proposal, but many people believed that it would likely be unconstitutional. As with the later proposal from above, it was mostly ignored because of more pressing political issues in the US government.
Attachments
Last edited:
Well the funny thing is that under the current government is trying to be less socialist and build a more unified government, and is currently in civil war because of those thingsThings were pretty bad then, between Mengistu in Ethiopia and Siad Barre in Somalia.... it's no wonder that Djibouti/Afars and Issas voted at least once (I think) to remain a French dependency... whether this scheme would've at least improved stability in the area, I have my doubts... I'd imagine it would last about as long (and work about as well
"What do you mean 'you don't like communism'"
I think it's interesting that it's post Communist Ethiopia that adopted a Soviet-like policy of ethnic states constituting the country.
Indeed, which is probably for the better but who knows. The Ethiopian identity is largely based on Amharic values and traditions, which is probably the source of many of the problems. Even though the country is nearly 1000 years old it's still a wip
The Black and White Rainbow: Reconciliation, Opposition, and Nation-Building in Democratic South Africa
Sadly this is behind a paywall, but it contains a map detailing several Boer "Volkstaat" proposals
Sadly this is behind a paywall, but it contains a map detailing several Boer "Volkstaat" proposals
I've done my best to extract that.
A zoomable version is available at James's link, under resources.