TL-191: Yankee Joe - Uniforms, Weapons, and Vehicles of the U.S. Armed Forces

What happened to Reuben James? Was she sunk in the Bahamas, say. CSN use of a captured ship that had been raised and refloated isn't out of the question-the IJN did that in SEA OTL with several British, Dutch, and American ships-the U.S.S. Stewart (DD-224) saw service as Patrol Boat 102 in the IJN.
 
What happened to Reuben James? Was she sunk in the Bahamas, say. CSN use of a captured ship that had been raised and refloated isn't out of the question-the IJN did that in SEA OTL with several British, Dutch, and American ships-the U.S.S. Stewart (DD-224) saw service as Patrol Boat 102 in the IJN.
She was scuttled in the Bahamas, then was refloated and repaired by the Confederates and used as a sub-chaser until getting sunk off Haiti in January 1944.
 
I would imagine that a few of the flush-deckers the US pumps out during the Great War would be converted to a variety of different kinds of vessels, just like the US actually did in our timeline.

Hard to say how many they would convert, but seeing them pop up as minesweepers, sub tenders, and even fast attack transports would be amusing.
 
US Navy Destroyers of the SGW (Part 2)

farragut.gif

Farragut class Destroyer (1930-1931)

Specifications (Following 1941 refit)
Weight: 2,064 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Curtis geared steam turbines, 4x boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: QCA Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 8 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 16 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Farragut (DD-355)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.September 1928March 15, 1930June 1930December 1944Scrapped June 1946.
USS Dewey (DD-356)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.December 1928August 28, 1930October 1930November 1944Scrapped August 1945.
USS Hull (DD-357)Brooklyn Navy Yard, New York City.March 1929January 31, 1930January 1931Sunk by naval mines near Vancouver Island, December 18, 1933.
USS MacDonough (DD-358)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.March 1929August 22, 1930March 1931December 1944Scrapped June 1945.
USS Worden (DD-359)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.December 1928October 27, 1930January 1931Foundered near Aristazabal, American Columbia, January 12, 1943.
USS Dale (DD-360)Brooklyn Navy Yard, New York City.February 1930January 23, 1931June 1931November 1944Scrapped September 1946.
USS Monaghan (DD-361)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.November 1929January 9, 1931April 1931Sunk by CSS Seal off New Jersey, May 6, 1942.
USS Alywin (DD-362)Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaSeptember 1929July 10, 1930March 1931January 1945Scrapped October 1946.

Porter.png

Porter class Flotilla Leader (1934-1935)

Specifications (Following 1941 refit)
Weight: 2,597 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: QCA Sonar
Armament:
  • 8 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns (4x2)
  • 8 x 28mm/75 caliber AA guns (2x4)
  • 2 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 8 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x4) + 8 spare torpedoes
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 16 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Porter (DL-13)New York Shipbuilding, Camden, New JerseyDecember 1931December 12, 1933August 1934Sunk by Russian bombers off the Queen Charlotte Islands, April 26, 1942.
USS Selfridge (DL-14)New York Shipbuilding, Camden, New JerseyDecember 1931April 18, 1934November 1934October 1944Scrapped 1945.
USS McDougal (DL-15 - AG-126, September 1944)New York Shipbuilding, Camden, New JerseyDecember 1931July 17, 1934December 1934June 24, 1949Auxiliary Test Ship, September 1944. Scrapped 1950.
USS Winslow (DL-16 - AG-127, September 1944)New York Shipbuilding, Camden, New JerseyDecember 1931September 21, 1933February 1935June 28, 1950Auxiliary Test Ship, September 1944. Scrapped 1959.
USS Phelps (DL-17)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.January 1932July 18, 1933February 1934November 1944Scrapped 1946
USS Clark (DL-18)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.January 1932September 15, 1933May 1934Sunk by Shigure during the Battle of the Queen Charlotte Islands, September 14, 1942.
USS Mustin (DL-19)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.January 1932December 11, 1933August 1934November 1944Scrapped 1945
USS Balch (DL-20)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.January 1932March 24, 1934October 1934November 1944Scrapped 1946

Mahan.png

Mahan class Destroyer (1934-1935)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,103 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x General Electric geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: QCA Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 12 x 533mm torpedo tubes (3x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 14 Depth Charges
Ships in Class:
  • Ordered: 18
  • Subclasses: Dunlap, 2 ships
  • Lost: 7 (5 to enemy action, 1 (USS Perkins (DD-376) in collision with troopship (11/29/1943 near Great Abaco), 1 (USS Tucker (DD-373)) to naval mines off Baja California, August 2, 1943.
  • In service: 1934-1945
  • Post-war fates: 9 Scrapped, 1 (USS Paulding (DD-366)) sunk in July 2, 1945 Operation Crossroads superbomb tests at Vairaatea Atoll, 1 (ex-DD-370) sunk during weapons tests near the Sandwich Islands, July 1948.

gridley.png

Gridley class destroyer (1937-1938)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,103 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x General Electric geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: QCA Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 16 x 533mm torpedo tubes (4x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 14 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Gridley (DD-379)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.June 1935December 1, 1936June 1937April 18, 1945Scrapped 1947
USS Craven (DD-380)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.June 1935February 25, 1937September 1937April 19, 1945Scrapped 1947
USS McCall (DD-400)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, San Francisco, California.March 1936November 20, 1937June 1938November 30, 1944Scrapped 1947
USS Mieslinger (DD-401)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, San Francisco, California.March 1936February 14, 1938August 1938December 6, 1944Scrapped 1947

Bagley.jpg

Kennedy class Destroyer (1937)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,245 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x General Electric geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 38.5 knots
Sensors: QCA Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 16 x 533mm torpedo tubes (4x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 14 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Kennedy (DD-383)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.July 1935September 3, 1936June 1937June 1945Scrapped November 1947.
USS Stoddert (DD-384)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.September 1935May 27, 1937August 1937Sunk by British destroyers in the Denmark Strait, August 2, 1942.
USS Helm (DD-385)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.September 1935May 27, 1937October 1937Sunk by British aircraft off Iceland, December 5, 1942.
USS Mugford (DD-386)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.October 1935October 31, 1936August 1937August 29, 1945Scuttled in the Pacific, March 22, 1948.
USS Ralph Talbot (DD-387)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.October 1935October 31, 1936October 1937August 29, 1945Scuttled in the Pacific, March 8, 1948.
USS Henley (DD-388)Mare Island Naval Yard, Vajello, California.October 1935January 11, 1937August 1937Sunk by Russian warships in the North Pacific, April 15, 1943.
USS Powell (DD-389)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.July 1935May 6, 1937September 1937November 1944Scrapped, August 1947.
USS Jarvis (DD-390)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.August 1935May 6, 1937October 1937Sunk by Japanese Warships during the Battle of Midway, December 8, 1941.

Somers.gif

Somers class Flotilla Leader (1937-1939)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,767 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x General Electric geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 7,500 nautical miles
Speed: 37 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 8 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns (4x2)
  • 8 x 28mm/75 caliber AA guns (2x4)
  • 2 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 12 x 533mm torpedo tubes (3x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 16 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Somers (DL-21)Federal Shipyard, Kearny, New Jersey.June 1935March 13, 1937December 1937October 1944Scrapped in 1946.
USS Warrington (DL-22)Federal Shipyard, Kearny, New Jersey.October 1935May 15, 1937February 1938Sunk during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 8, 1943.
USS Sampson (DL-23)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.April 1936April 16, 1937August 1938Sunk by Confederate destroyers in the Bahamas, August 17, 1941.
USS Davis (DL-24)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.July 1936July 30, 1938November 1938October 1944Scrapped in 1946.
USS Jouett (DL-25)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.March 1936September 24, 1938January 1939November 1944Scrapped in 1945.

Benham.gif

Benham class Destroyer (1939)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,250 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x General Electric geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 38.5 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 16 x 533mm torpedo tubes (4x4)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Benham (DD-391)Federal Shipyard, Kearny, New Jersey.June 1936April 16, 1938February 1939Sunk during the First Battle off Gonave, September 4th, 1943.
USS Ellet (DD-392)Federal Shipyard, Kearny, New Jersey.December 1936June 11, 1938February 1939Sunk during the Second Battle of Bermuda, April 11, 1943.
USS Lang (DD-393)Federal Shipyard, Kearny, New Jersey.April 1937August 27, 1938March 1939August 28, 1945Scuttled off Kiribati, April 24, 1948.
USS Mayrant (DD-394)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.April 1937May 14, 1938September 1939August 28, 1945Scuttled of Kiribati, February 2, 1948.
USS Trippe (DD-395)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.April 1937May 14, 1938November 1939August 29, 1945Scuttled off Kiribati, March 22, 1948.
USS Rhind (DD-397)Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaSeptember 1937July 28, 1938November 1939Sunk by HMS Sheffield during the First Battle of Bermuda, August 25, 1941.
USS Rowan (DD-398)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.June 1937May 5, 1938September 1939Sunk by Russian MTBs in the Hecate Strait, June 2, 1942.
USS Stack (DD-399)Bath Iron Works, Bath, Maine.June 1937May 5, 1938November 1939August 29, 1945Sunk for target practice off Kiribati, April 4, 1948.
USS Sterett (DD-402)Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaSeptember 1937October 27, 1938August 1939Sunk during the Battle of the Queen Charlotte Islands, September 15, 1942.
USS Wilson (DD-403)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.March 1937April 12, 1939July 1939November 1944Scrapped in August 1946.

Sims.png

Sims class Destroyer (1939-1940)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,313 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 3x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 4 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 12 x 533mm torpedo tubes (3x4) + 16 spare torpedoes
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ships in Class:
  • Built: 12
  • In service: 1939-1945
  • Lost: 7 (all in combat)
  • Post-war fates: 2 scrapped, 1 (USS Anderson (DD-412)) sunk in superbomb tests, 2 sunk for target practice.
 
Last edited:
Would The Mahan class destroyer really be named after Mahan in this timeline? As a former President, I think he would get a much more impressive ship named after him.
 

Deleted member 2186

Started with U.S.S. Franklin D. Roosevelt (CVB/CVA-42) in 1945.
And it needed almost 20 years until the next one showed up in OTL i think when USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) was commissioned in 1968.
 
US Navy Destroyers of the SGW (Part 3)

Allen.gif

Allen class Destroyer (1940)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,572 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,630 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 6 x 12.7mm M1921 AA machine-guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5) + 5 spare torpedoes
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Allen (DD-416)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938November 15, 1939July 1940March 1946To Alaska (Bystryy/Быстрый), February 1951.
USS Mayo (DD-417)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938March 26, 1940September 1940March 1946Sold for scrap, May 1972.
USS James J. Madison (DD-418)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.September 1938October 20, 1939August 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
USS Lansdale (DD-419)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.December 1938October 20, 1939September 1940Sunk by Confederate MTBs off the Cayman Islands, April 20, 1944.
USS Peter D. Claythorne (DD-420)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.November 1938December 14, 1939September 1940February 1945To Alaska (Reshayushchiy/Решающий), February 1951.
USS Charles F. Hughes (DD-421)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.January 1939May 16, 1940October 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
Laffey subclass (1942-1943): 20 Units
Lost: 5 units (1 repaired and returned to service).
Other users: Norway (2 units (1942-1946), Persia (3 units (1954-1973)), Texas (TMDS Crocker (ex USS Kalk (DD-604) (1947-1966)).

Bristol.jpg

Bedford class Destroyer (1940-1941)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,600 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,880 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 6 x 20mm Oerlikon AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 18 + 40 Bristol subclass
  • In service: 1941-1955
  • Modifications: 24 converted into Destroyer Minelayers (DM) between 1943 and 1945.
  • Lost: 15 (12 in combat), 2 collision, 1 explosion (USS Turner DD-438, January 3, 1944 in NYC)
  • Other navies: 3 Norway (1943-1947), 4 Alaska (1951-1971), 4 Chile (1949-1969), 2 Texas (1947-1974), 2 Quebec (1946-1976), 4 Mexico (1951-1968)
  • Preserved: 1 Joliette D-10 (ex-USS Bristol (DD-447)) at Quebec City since 1978.
Fletcher.jpg

Fletcher class Destroyer (1942-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed (USS-Kidd))
Weight: 2,950 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 38 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 4 fire control radar, QCJ Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns
  • 10 x 40mm Bofors AA guns (5x2)
  • 10 x 20mm Oerlikon AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 107 out of 112 planned
  • In service: 1942-1971
  • Modifications: 2 built as catapult destroyers (DDV), 18 as Escort Destroyers (DDE) (1948-1950), 22 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 21 (all in combat) + 6 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 7 Alaska (1967-1987), 3 Chile (1962-1982), 3 Texas (1965-1995), 4 Quebec (1970-1992), 7 Australia (1962-1984), 2 New Zealand (1965-1982), 4 Mexico (1966-2001), 2 Cuba (1967-1996)
  • Preserved: 3 in the USA, USS Kidd (DD-642), USS The Sullivans (DD-517), USS Maxim D. Kowalski (DD-692), 1 in Australia, HMAS Waterhen (ex-USS Stanford (DD-510)).
Allen M. Sumner.gif

Allen M. Sumner class Destroyer (1943-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 3,218 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,300 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 12.22 fire control radar, QGA Sonar
Armament:
  • 6 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns (3x2)
  • 12 x 40mm Bofors AA guns (2x2) and (2x4)
  • 11 x 20mm Oerlikon AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 41 out of 45 planned
  • In service: 1943-1975
  • Modifications: 14 built as Destroyer Minelayers (DM) (1944-1945), 33 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 2 (all in combat) + 3 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 2 Alaska (1971-1989), 4 Chile (1972-1988), 2 Quebec (1978-1988), 1 Australia (1974-1983), 2 New Zealand (1972-1983), 4 Brazil (1969-1982), 2 Persia (1974-1989)
  • Preserved: USS Douglas H. Fox (DD-744) in Duluth, Minnesota since 1980.

Gearing.gif

Gearing class Destroyer (1944-1949)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 3,460 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 4,500 nautical miles
Speed: 36.8 knots
Sensors: SR and SG early warning radars, Mk 12.22 fire control radar, QGA Sonar
Armament:
  • 6 x 5-inch/38 caliber DP guns (3x2)
  • 12 x 40mm Bofors AA guns (2x2) and (2x4)
  • 11 x 20mm Oerlikon AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 68 out of 105 planned
  • In service: 1944-1982
  • Modifications: 9 built as Escort Destroyers (DE) (1947-1949), 9 built as Radar Pickets (DDK) (1944-1945), most modernized under the FRAM program (1950s-1960s).
  • Other navies: 5 Alaska (1975-1993), 5 Chile (1972-1991), 1 Quebec (1978-1989), 3 Australia (1974-1987), 2 New Zealand (1975-1990), 5 Brazil (1971-1984), 2 Venezuela (1976-1987), 3 Mexico (1973-2014), 1 Colombia (1977-1988), 2 Cuba (1976-2004), 2 Texas (1978-2007).
  • Preserved: USS Stephen P. Wood (DD-806), USS Orleck (DD-794), TMDS Cowell (ex-USS Rogers (DD-743))
 
Last edited:
US Navy Destroyers of the SGW (Part 3)

View attachment 684984
Allen class Destroyer (1940)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,572 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,630 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 6 x 12.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5) + 5 spare torpedoes
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Allen (DD-404)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938November 15, 1939July 1940March 1946To Alaska (Bystryy/Быстрый), February 1951.
USS Mayo (DD-405)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938March 26, 1940September 1940March 1946Sold for scrap, May 1972.
USS James J. Madison (DD-406)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.September 1938October 20, 1939August 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
USS Lansdale (DD-407)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.December 1938October 20, 1939September 1940Sunk by Confederate MTBs off the Cayman Islands, April 20, 1944.
USS Peter D. Claythorne (DD-408)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.November 1938December 14, 1939September 1940February 1945To Alaska (Reshayushchiy/Решающий), February 1951.
USS Charles F. Hughes (DD-409)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.January 1939May 16, 1940October 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
Laffey subclass (1942-1943): 24 Units
Lost: 5 units (1 repaired and returned to service).
Other users: Persia (3 units (1954-1973)), Texas (TMDS Crocker (ex USS Kalk (DD-604) (1947-1966)).

View attachment 684993
Bedford class Destroyer (1940-1941)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,600 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,880 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 6 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 18 + 48 Bristol subclass
  • In service: 1941-1955
  • Modifications: 24 converted into Destroyer Minelayers (DM) between 1943 and 1945.
  • Lost: 15 (12 in combat), 2 collision, 1 explosion (USS Turner DD-438, January 3, 1944 in NYC)
  • Other navies: 4 Alaska (1951-1971), 4 Chile (1949-1969), 2 Texas (1947-1974), 2 Quebec (1946-1976), 4 Mexico (1951-1968)
  • Preserved: 1 Joliette D-10 (ex-USS Bristol (DD-434)) at Quebec City since 1978.
View attachment 685017
Fletcher class Destroyer (1942-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed (USS-Kidd))
Weight: 2,950 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 38 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 4 fire control radar, QCJ Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 10 x 40mm AA guns (5x2)
  • 10 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 150
  • In service: 1942-1971
  • Modifications: 2 built as catapult destroyers (DDV), 18 as Escort Destroyers (DDE) (1948-1950), 22 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 21 (all in combat) + 6 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 7 Alaska (1967-1987), 3 Chile (1962-1982), 3 Texas (1965-1995), 4 Quebec (1970-1992), 7 Australia (1962-1984), 2 New Zealand (1965-1982), 4 Mexico (1966-2001), 2 Cuba (1967-1996)
  • Preserved: 3 in the USA, USS Kidd (DD-642), USS The Sullivans (DD-517), USS Maxim D. Kowalski (DD-792), 1 in Australia, HMAS Waterhen (ex-USS Stanford (DD-510)).
View attachment 685024
Allen M. Sumner class Destroyer (1943-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed (USS-Kidd))
Weight: 3,218 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,300 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 12.22 fire control radar, QGA Sonar
Armament:
  • 6 x 5 inch DP guns (3x2)
  • 12 x 40mm AA guns (2x2) and (2x4)
  • 11 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 51 out of 75 planned
  • In service: 1943-1975
  • Modifications: 20 built as Destroyer Minelayers (DM) (1944-1945), 33 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 2 (all in combat) + 3 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 2 Alaska (1971-1989), 4 Chile (1972-1988), 2 Quebec (1978-1988), 1 Australia (1974-1983), 2 New Zealand (1972-1983), 4 Brazil (1969-1982), 2 Persia (1974-1989)
  • Preserved: USS Douglas H. Fox (DD-744) in Duluth, Minnesota since 1980.
Wow, that's a lot of destroyers just like the OTL. Still fascinated about the status of the US Navy.


Also, who is the US allies in your headcanon?
 
US Navy Destroyers of the SGW (Part 3)

View attachment 684984
Allen class Destroyer (1940)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,572 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,630 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 6 x 12.7mm AA machine-guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5) + 5 spare torpedoes
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ship​
Builder​
Laid Down​
Launched​
Commissioned​
Decommissioned​
Fate​
USS Allen (DD-404)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938November 15, 1939July 1940March 1946To Alaska (Bystryy/Быстрый), February 1951.
USS Mayo (DD-405)Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation, Quincy, Massachusetts.May 1938March 26, 1940September 1940March 1946Sold for scrap, May 1972.
USS James J. Madison (DD-406)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.September 1938October 20, 1939August 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
USS Lansdale (DD-407)Boston Naval Yard, Boston, Massachusetts.December 1938October 20, 1939September 1940Sunk by Confederate MTBs off the Cayman Islands, April 20, 1944.
USS Peter D. Claythorne (DD-408)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.November 1938December 14, 1939September 1940February 1945To Alaska (Reshayushchiy/Решающий), February 1951.
USS Charles F. Hughes (DD-409)Puget Sound Naval Yard, Bremerton, Washington.January 1939May 16, 1940October 1940March 1946Sunk for target practice, 1969.
Laffey subclass (1942-1943): 24 Units
Lost: 5 units (1 repaired and returned to service).
Other users: Persia (3 units (1954-1973)), Texas (TMDS Crocker (ex USS Kalk (DD-604) (1947-1966)).

View attachment 684993
Bedford class Destroyer (1940-1941)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 2,600 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,880 nautical miles
Speed: 35 knots
Sensors: QCE Sonar
Armament:
  • 4 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 6 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 10 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 18 + 48 Bristol subclass
  • In service: 1941-1955
  • Modifications: 24 converted into Destroyer Minelayers (DM) between 1943 and 1945.
  • Lost: 15 (12 in combat), 2 collision, 1 explosion (USS Turner DD-438, January 3, 1944 in NYC)
  • Other navies: 4 Alaska (1951-1971), 4 Chile (1949-1969), 2 Texas (1947-1974), 2 Quebec (1946-1976), 4 Mexico (1951-1968)
  • Preserved: 1 Joliette D-10 (ex-USS Bristol (DD-434)) at Quebec City since 1978.
View attachment 685017
Fletcher class Destroyer (1942-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed (USS-Kidd))
Weight: 2,950 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 6,500 nautical miles
Speed: 38 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 4 fire control radar, QCJ Sonar
Armament:
  • 5 x 5 inch DP guns
  • 10 x 40mm AA guns (5x2)
  • 10 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 150
  • In service: 1942-1971
  • Modifications: 2 built as catapult destroyers (DDV), 18 as Escort Destroyers (DDE) (1948-1950), 22 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 21 (all in combat) + 6 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 7 Alaska (1967-1987), 3 Chile (1962-1982), 3 Texas (1965-1995), 4 Quebec (1970-1992), 7 Australia (1962-1984), 2 New Zealand (1965-1982), 4 Mexico (1966-2001), 2 Cuba (1967-1996)
  • Preserved: 3 in the USA, USS Kidd (DD-642), USS The Sullivans (DD-517), USS Maxim D. Kowalski (DD-792), 1 in Australia, HMAS Waterhen (ex-USS Stanford (DD-510)).
View attachment 685024
Allen M. Sumner class Destroyer (1943-1945)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 3,218 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 3,300 nautical miles
Speed: 36.5 knots
Sensors: SC and SG early warning radars, Mk 12.22 fire control radar, QGA Sonar
Armament:
  • 6 x 5 inch DP guns (3x2)
  • 12 x 40mm AA guns (2x2) and (2x4)
  • 11 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 51 out of 75 planned
  • In service: 1943-1975
  • Modifications: 20 built as Destroyer Minelayers (DM) (1944-1945), 33 FRAM II modernizations (1950s)
  • Lost: 2 (all in combat) + 3 damaged and never repaired.
  • Other navies: 2 Alaska (1971-1989), 4 Chile (1972-1988), 2 Quebec (1978-1988), 1 Australia (1974-1983), 2 New Zealand (1972-1983), 4 Brazil (1969-1982), 2 Persia (1974-1989)
  • Preserved: USS Douglas H. Fox (DD-744) in Duluth, Minnesota since 1980.

View attachment 685162
Gearing class Destroyer (1944-1949)

Specifications (As originally completed)
Weight: 3,460 long tons fully loaded
Propulsion: 2x Westinghouse geared steam turbines, 4x Babcock and Wilcox boilers
Range: 4,500 nautical miles
Speed: 36.8 knots
Sensors: SR and SG early warning radars, Mk 12.22 fire control radar, QGA Sonar
Armament:
  • 6 x 5 inch DP guns (3x2)
  • 12 x 40mm AA guns (2x2) and (2x4)
  • 11 x 20mm AA guns
  • 10 x 533mm torpedo tubes (2x5)
  • 6 Depth Charge Launchers
  • 2 Depth Charge Racks + 56 Depth Charges
Ships in class:
  • Built: 81 out of 150 planned
  • In service: 1944-1982
  • Modifications: 9 built as Escort Destroyers (DE) (1947-1949), 9 built as Radar Pickets (DDK) (1944-1945), most modernized under the FRAM program (1950s-1960s).
  • Other navies: 5 Alaska (1975-1993), 5 Chile (1972-1991), 1 Quebec (1978-1989), 3 Australia (1974-1987), 2 New Zealand (1975-1990), 5 Brazil (1971-1984), 2 Venezuela (1976-1987), 3 Mexico (1973-2014), 1 Colombia (1977-1988), 2 Cuba (1976-2004), 2 Texas (1978-2007).
  • Preserved: USS Stephen P. Wood (DD-806), USS Orleck (DD-824), TMDS Cowell (ex-USS Rogers (DD-843))

That seems massively over the top, the US in TL-191 isn't projecting power overseas in anything like the way it was in OTL and won't need anywhere near the number of Destroyer Escorts especially.
 
Eeh the books have the USN as the number 2 power in the world post Great War. And having fought 3 wars with Japan by in at the deaths conclusion they might have that many DDs remember there is no Panama canal in 191 so Atlantic and Pacific Fleets have to be independent of each other.
 
FH-1.png

An McDonnell FD-1 Phantom of VF-501 from the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid (CV-26), circa 1947.

In early 1943, upon hearing of the news of the successful test flight of the XP-70 turbo fighter, the US Navy would set a requirement for their own such plane to the McDonnell Aircraft Company. The company would soon get work in developing the plane, incorporation such features as a bubble canopy, tri-cycle undercarriage, arrest-hook system for carrier deployment, and most importantly, a pair of Westinghouse J30 axial-flow turbo engines each producing 1,360 pounds of thrust. The aircraft would have it's first test-flight in January 1945, which the navy would be impressed with the prototype, and would soon order 70 such airframes from McDonnell, with the type officially entering service with the Navy in 1947, becoming the first operational turbo-fighter to be carrier-based. Later in the year, the first planes would be fielded by VF-501 aboard the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid, which it's shortcomings would soon be shown, notably in having a light armament of only four .50 caliber machine-guns and eight 127mm rockets, making inadequate for the desired role of ground-attack in addition for it's planned role as interceptor. During it's short career, the FD-1 would be used mainly for training pilots transitioning from propeller aircraft to turbos for carrier operations, being withdrawn from the USN's inventory in 1949 in favor for the new F8A Panther.
 
Last edited:
Top