AHC: A US President from every state
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I made a couple of changes. So it wasn't in the United States at the time he moved there, Daniel Boone had been living in Missouri Territory, or what would become that, after the Louisiana Purchase. And, since the Louisiana Purchase was bought while Burr was President he could be said to have lived in Missouri when he was called back to be president in this timeline, even though the territory wouodn't be fully defined till he got into office. So Missouri is out. Even though it was just the Missouri territory. If you want to use Harry S Truman later you can.
Also, Zachary Taylor was from Louisiana. But there is no slavery there, so he can be on the banks of the Mississippi in Mississippi in this timeline. This knocks that state out also.
Also, Zachary Taylor was from Louisiana. But there is no slavery there, so he can be on the banks of the Mississippi in Mississippi in this timeline. This knocks that state out also.
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Connecticut isn't missing. George H.W. Bush is from CT. Father was a senator from there. Moved to TX as an adult after Yale and the service.
George H. W. Bush was born in MA. He "spent most of his childhood in Greenwich, at the family vacation home in Kennebunkport, Maine or at his maternal grandparents' plantation in South Carolina.[9] Because of the family's wealth, Bush was largely unaffected by the Great Depression.[10] He attended Greenwich Country Day School from 1929 to 1937 and Phillips Academy, an elite private academy in Massachusetts, from 1937 to 1942." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush You can say he's "from" CT but even for pre-1948 other states including MA have claims, and as an adult he was a Texan.
He did once joke in 1988 that if he could just carry all his "home states", that by itseld would guarantee him an Electoral College majority...
Attempt 2 Part 2
Okay let's see how far I can get here.
TLIAD part 2 – The Turbulent Twentieth Century
24 – William Jenning Bryan – 1897-1901 – NE
After Bayard, a conservative Democrat, had lost re-election, the Populists took over the Democratic Party. Bryan had been born in the waning days of the Civil War and had grown up with the North bringing the South back in line with what was expected of the, that being some measure of equality.
It was still hard for blacks, but Bryan’s Populism did seem to help them, though his focus was more on the rural sector than the inner cities.
The death of Vice President Sewell in 1900 meant a quick change was needed as the incumbent Bryan seemed very likely to win a 2nd term, which he would. Charles A. Town, ironically, had just been chosen as a Senator to fill an unexpired term, and he was considered a frontrunner, so he was selected opposite Bryan. The former Congressman from Minnesota was, as some joked, “the perfect stand-in who will never be needed for anything.”
Ironically, an anarchist, Leon Czolgosz, would assassinate Bryan in 1901, having planned the murder for several weeks and plotting where would be easiest. This set off a firestorm that the ineffective Townes wouldn’t do much about.
25 – Charles A. Towne – 1901-1905 – MN
He might not have won enough delegates if the 2nd spot on the ticket had been selected at the Convention, and once in office he seemed ill-prepared. He lost re-election to a man who had risen in the ranks of Progressive politics and grown to finally be able to win the GOP nomination in 1904 after domination by the conservative, business end of the Party for years.
Meanwhile, the murder of President Bryan by an anarchist sharply divided the country and led to measures which curtailed immigration – not as much as would be in future years, but ironically, many said that it “paved the way for more and more blacks to be able to move North and take jobs immigrants might have.”
26 – Theodore Roosevelt - 1905-1913 – DK
Theodore Roosevelt had loved his time in the Dakota Territory – which had been pushed to be one state by Congress in 1888, fearing the idea that the opposing party could get 4 Senators in a Democratic year, and was still very popular when he went back out West in 1898.
He still had his friends in the Republican Party back East, but he decided that he would be better off running for an office higher than Police Commissioner of New Hork out West. He became Governor of the State of Dakota in 1900 and gained a national reputation.
The GOP had been dominated by bit Party Bosses since they took over from the proto-Progressives led by John Sherman in the 1888 nominating of James Blaine. The retirement of McKinley from public life in 1892 after his wife’s illness just meant others could take over, and they weren’t as good at McKinley at drawing people; they had selected an Iowa VP but he hadn’t even been renominated after the Panic of 1893 got really bad.
Now, however, it was a new century, and TR, as he was known, had made arrangements with the Eastern establishment to select an Eastern, conservative VP in exchange for his nomination. He won the election somewhat easily over the very pland Townes.
As President, Teddy Roosevelt dove into attacking the evils of the meat packing industry – which he said he’d seen from both ends now, the cattle ranchers and tlhe horrors of the Chicago meat-packing industry. He began great conservation programs and established the prototype for national parks which has existed to this day. He also mediated in two wars – the Russo-Japanese War, which was a draw, and the Japanese war against the rebels in the Philippines, who had been fighting the Japanese ever since they bought the islands from Spain in 1899. This rebellion had kept the Japense from putting their full force behind the war with Russia, though they’d still fought the Russians to a draw.
Roosevelt won high praise for how he’d brought the country onto the world stage, helping the finally-free Cubans to become a stable domcracy and using William Howard Taft before Taft was appointed Chief Justice in 1910 to go around the world as the nation’s ambassador to a number of places. He insisted that America could be a world power militarily, but “has problems to clear up at home, too.”
27. Robert LaFollette – 1913-1917 – WI
The inclusiveness of Progressive ideals had been at war with the other liberal group, the Populists, who supported the poor but preferred to curtail the inclusion of “new poor” into the country. This hadn’t been a huge problem during Roosevelt’s administration, but the death of President Bryan still was remembered, and by 1915 the Democrats were back in control of Congress, and even sharper limits on immigration were placed, though some refugees were allowed in due to the war. It was estimatged that about 2 million fewer people had entered the U.S. from 1904-1914 because of the restrictions placed there.
However, LaFollette faced other problems which doomed him. Eastgerners were tired of the West getting all the help, and TR’s and LaFollette’s Progressivism could only draw the poor so much. Even black voters saw they could only get so far with them, though they were doing well. Still, Champ Clark – who had ultimately fallen prey to the 2/3 majority rule and lost to Woodrow Wilson for the 1912 nomination – was seen as moderatge enough they could maybe support him when he ran in 1916.
28. Champ Clark – 1917-1920 – MO
Clark inherited a country which had, thanks to TR, been””itching for war,” as heput it. True, President LaFollette had been opposed to getting involved in Europe, but a groundswell of support for it, including from Wilson, now a Senator, led Clark to decide to support it.
Missouri had had its own civil war, with half seceding and half not, in the late 1850s. Clark stated proudly how he had opposed lynching and supported the measures which would help the nation recover – and especially his own state. He was much more moderate than a lot of the reformers, though, and even the Bryan-supporting Vice President he chose was more about “making sure that everything is done freely and fairly,” such as not allowing forged evidence and such into trials.
Clark was roundly opposed by some for getting American into war in July of 1917, but by the time Americans got there, the Allies had won, though barely. His Presidency is known more for ushering in a more conservative brand of politics, with the motto seeming to be, “Senators are elected by the people, women have had the vote for ten years, things aren’t that bad in the South for blacks” (Note - think 1950s-level bad, no 2nd Klan TTL), “what else is there to do?” His Vice President was from the East, and when Clark died in May of 1920 due to the stress of war, he became the first President from the East in quite a while.
29. Homer Cumings – 1920-1921 – CT
Cummings had won a narrow race for Congress in 1902 as a Bryanite, partly out of sympathy votes for the decased President. He had had a successful career and become friends with Clark, enough so he became the Vice President when Clark became President.
The economy was bad after WW1, and enough soldiers had died that things were pretty bleak. Cummings would not seek renomination, preferring instead to go back to Connecticut to be a Fairfield County state attorney, where he won acclaim for his fairness in spilte of public pressure. This, ironically, put him back on the national stage as a possible President in a way he might not have been had he tried to seek re-election in 1920.
30. Warren Harding – 1921-1923 – OH
The death of Clark made some look at Warren Harding, whom some party bosses had tried to put in, and say, “Wait, this guy could die in office, too.” Not that it mattered.
31. Calvin Coolidge – 1923-1929 – VT
Silent Cal did little, and the Democrats, even without as much influence from Wilson’s Southern-style conservatives, could do little to unite. They decided to try Al Smith, though, because the South wasn’t quite as powerful, figuring he’d be an easy loss anyway. He was,
32. Homer Cumings – 1929-1933 – CT
Cummings was back as President after getting back into Congress in 1926. With Smith having lost quite bafdly, the door was open for someone like Cummings – smart, fair, and… oh, yes, not quite ready for the Great Depression. Although there is no truth to the rumor that Bart Simpson’s dad is named after this failed President.
33. Alf Landon – 1933-1941 – KS
Landon, like his Agriculture Secretary Herbert Hoover, supported some mild measures to relieve the Depression. Actually, thanks to Roosevelt and LaFollette, Social Security had been in place since 1912, and he expanded it some, along with establishing infrastructure development that would help people get jobs that would then be turned over to the private sector.
Landon did well enough to win re-election in 1936 over John Nance Garner – he’d beaten Cummings for re-election in 1932. However, by 1940, with storm clouds rising, a President was needed who could take the country through what could be a terrible war. Already rumors of Japenese atrocities in China and the Philippines were coming in, and Britain couldn’t do it all themselves, not with Germany also a problem.
Thankfully, Landon had listened to the people, and begun to build up the military, partly because it would be a good way to produce jobs in the U.S. during the Depression.
34. Huey Long – 1941-1947 – LA
Having grown up in what Burr had created a century earlier, Long was used to thinking of everyone being equal. President Burnside had partly integrated the military - one of the reasons he’d had problems winning re-election despite his having been victorious in later Civil War battles using US Colored Troops – but there were still serious “income disparities,” as Long like to say. This wasn’t the time to help that, though.
Long found getting into war a lot harder than he’d expected, even with his arm-twisting and politicking. ‘Washington DC doesn’t work quite the same as Louisiana,” one pundit said, “he should know that from having been a Senator.” He would becompared with another hard-nosed, arm-twisting Senator later, Lyndon Johnson.
Long’s war was more popular than WW 1 had been, but it didn’t mean there weren’t problems. Once the war was won, his attempts to have everyone “share the wealth in peace as well” fell on deaf ears.
Long had made enemies, too. The Soviets were able, supposedly, to “get to” one, though many insist he acted alone. Whichever it was, in April of 1947, Long was shot and killed.
35. Millard Tydings – 1947-1949 – MD
Tydings had led the way in the Senate, years before the war, opposing and fearing Nazi anti-Semitism. He is credited with helping boost peacetime military production through his concerns that war could come. He was the perfect VP choice for Long, representing the Eastern Establishment. However, he opposed some of Long’s more liberal measures, insisted on a balanced budget in peacetime, and some said he might have been droppe from the ticket were it not for the war in ’44.
He did okay as President, but ultimately list his bid for re-election. He went back to the Senate and served after that, having become wel known as a Senator but one who “just wasn’t quite good enough as President.” Although, some said that Long’s liberal ways had messed up the economy, and under better circumstances, he might have won re-election in ’48.
36. Thomas Dewey – 1949-1957 – NY
Thomas Dewey continued New Deal programs with the checks on waste that Tydings had begun to implement, though Tydings had done so partly because of the GOP Congress in ’47 he’d also thought a balanced peacetime budget was best.
What he helped most with was the calming of tensions in various areas around the globe – the Berlin Blockade ended, Greece’s Civil War was won by anti-Communist forces, and America won the Korean War when Dwight Eisenhower, after having done so well in Europe, engineered one final “great landing” at Inchon and then stopped short of the Yalu River in 1951. (Note – with no Philippines, Gen. MacArthur isn’t as well known, the Ike is chosen to go into Asia.)as well as at home. His 1955 Civil Rights Act and 1956 Fair Housing Act helped to seal equality for African-Americans, after Long’s Voting Rights Act earlier.
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And, there we go, only Alabama, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Florida east of the Mississippi, and only Texas East of the Continental Divide remains. And there's lots of time left before 2020, so it can definitely be done. Let's see who can do more.
TLIAD part 2 – The Turbulent Twentieth Century
24 – William Jenning Bryan – 1897-1901 – NE
After Bayard, a conservative Democrat, had lost re-election, the Populists took over the Democratic Party. Bryan had been born in the waning days of the Civil War and had grown up with the North bringing the South back in line with what was expected of the, that being some measure of equality.
It was still hard for blacks, but Bryan’s Populism did seem to help them, though his focus was more on the rural sector than the inner cities.
The death of Vice President Sewell in 1900 meant a quick change was needed as the incumbent Bryan seemed very likely to win a 2nd term, which he would. Charles A. Town, ironically, had just been chosen as a Senator to fill an unexpired term, and he was considered a frontrunner, so he was selected opposite Bryan. The former Congressman from Minnesota was, as some joked, “the perfect stand-in who will never be needed for anything.”
Ironically, an anarchist, Leon Czolgosz, would assassinate Bryan in 1901, having planned the murder for several weeks and plotting where would be easiest. This set off a firestorm that the ineffective Townes wouldn’t do much about.
25 – Charles A. Towne – 1901-1905 – MN
He might not have won enough delegates if the 2nd spot on the ticket had been selected at the Convention, and once in office he seemed ill-prepared. He lost re-election to a man who had risen in the ranks of Progressive politics and grown to finally be able to win the GOP nomination in 1904 after domination by the conservative, business end of the Party for years.
Meanwhile, the murder of President Bryan by an anarchist sharply divided the country and led to measures which curtailed immigration – not as much as would be in future years, but ironically, many said that it “paved the way for more and more blacks to be able to move North and take jobs immigrants might have.”
26 – Theodore Roosevelt - 1905-1913 – DK
Theodore Roosevelt had loved his time in the Dakota Territory – which had been pushed to be one state by Congress in 1888, fearing the idea that the opposing party could get 4 Senators in a Democratic year, and was still very popular when he went back out West in 1898.
He still had his friends in the Republican Party back East, but he decided that he would be better off running for an office higher than Police Commissioner of New Hork out West. He became Governor of the State of Dakota in 1900 and gained a national reputation.
The GOP had been dominated by bit Party Bosses since they took over from the proto-Progressives led by John Sherman in the 1888 nominating of James Blaine. The retirement of McKinley from public life in 1892 after his wife’s illness just meant others could take over, and they weren’t as good at McKinley at drawing people; they had selected an Iowa VP but he hadn’t even been renominated after the Panic of 1893 got really bad.
Now, however, it was a new century, and TR, as he was known, had made arrangements with the Eastern establishment to select an Eastern, conservative VP in exchange for his nomination. He won the election somewhat easily over the very pland Townes.
As President, Teddy Roosevelt dove into attacking the evils of the meat packing industry – which he said he’d seen from both ends now, the cattle ranchers and tlhe horrors of the Chicago meat-packing industry. He began great conservation programs and established the prototype for national parks which has existed to this day. He also mediated in two wars – the Russo-Japanese War, which was a draw, and the Japanese war against the rebels in the Philippines, who had been fighting the Japanese ever since they bought the islands from Spain in 1899. This rebellion had kept the Japense from putting their full force behind the war with Russia, though they’d still fought the Russians to a draw.
Roosevelt won high praise for how he’d brought the country onto the world stage, helping the finally-free Cubans to become a stable domcracy and using William Howard Taft before Taft was appointed Chief Justice in 1910 to go around the world as the nation’s ambassador to a number of places. He insisted that America could be a world power militarily, but “has problems to clear up at home, too.”
27. Robert LaFollette – 1913-1917 – WI
The inclusiveness of Progressive ideals had been at war with the other liberal group, the Populists, who supported the poor but preferred to curtail the inclusion of “new poor” into the country. This hadn’t been a huge problem during Roosevelt’s administration, but the death of President Bryan still was remembered, and by 1915 the Democrats were back in control of Congress, and even sharper limits on immigration were placed, though some refugees were allowed in due to the war. It was estimatged that about 2 million fewer people had entered the U.S. from 1904-1914 because of the restrictions placed there.
However, LaFollette faced other problems which doomed him. Eastgerners were tired of the West getting all the help, and TR’s and LaFollette’s Progressivism could only draw the poor so much. Even black voters saw they could only get so far with them, though they were doing well. Still, Champ Clark – who had ultimately fallen prey to the 2/3 majority rule and lost to Woodrow Wilson for the 1912 nomination – was seen as moderatge enough they could maybe support him when he ran in 1916.
28. Champ Clark – 1917-1920 – MO
Clark inherited a country which had, thanks to TR, been””itching for war,” as heput it. True, President LaFollette had been opposed to getting involved in Europe, but a groundswell of support for it, including from Wilson, now a Senator, led Clark to decide to support it.
Missouri had had its own civil war, with half seceding and half not, in the late 1850s. Clark stated proudly how he had opposed lynching and supported the measures which would help the nation recover – and especially his own state. He was much more moderate than a lot of the reformers, though, and even the Bryan-supporting Vice President he chose was more about “making sure that everything is done freely and fairly,” such as not allowing forged evidence and such into trials.
Clark was roundly opposed by some for getting American into war in July of 1917, but by the time Americans got there, the Allies had won, though barely. His Presidency is known more for ushering in a more conservative brand of politics, with the motto seeming to be, “Senators are elected by the people, women have had the vote for ten years, things aren’t that bad in the South for blacks” (Note - think 1950s-level bad, no 2nd Klan TTL), “what else is there to do?” His Vice President was from the East, and when Clark died in May of 1920 due to the stress of war, he became the first President from the East in quite a while.
29. Homer Cumings – 1920-1921 – CT
Cummings had won a narrow race for Congress in 1902 as a Bryanite, partly out of sympathy votes for the decased President. He had had a successful career and become friends with Clark, enough so he became the Vice President when Clark became President.
The economy was bad after WW1, and enough soldiers had died that things were pretty bleak. Cummings would not seek renomination, preferring instead to go back to Connecticut to be a Fairfield County state attorney, where he won acclaim for his fairness in spilte of public pressure. This, ironically, put him back on the national stage as a possible President in a way he might not have been had he tried to seek re-election in 1920.
30. Warren Harding – 1921-1923 – OH
The death of Clark made some look at Warren Harding, whom some party bosses had tried to put in, and say, “Wait, this guy could die in office, too.” Not that it mattered.
31. Calvin Coolidge – 1923-1929 – VT
Silent Cal did little, and the Democrats, even without as much influence from Wilson’s Southern-style conservatives, could do little to unite. They decided to try Al Smith, though, because the South wasn’t quite as powerful, figuring he’d be an easy loss anyway. He was,
32. Homer Cumings – 1929-1933 – CT
Cummings was back as President after getting back into Congress in 1926. With Smith having lost quite bafdly, the door was open for someone like Cummings – smart, fair, and… oh, yes, not quite ready for the Great Depression. Although there is no truth to the rumor that Bart Simpson’s dad is named after this failed President.
33. Alf Landon – 1933-1941 – KS
Landon, like his Agriculture Secretary Herbert Hoover, supported some mild measures to relieve the Depression. Actually, thanks to Roosevelt and LaFollette, Social Security had been in place since 1912, and he expanded it some, along with establishing infrastructure development that would help people get jobs that would then be turned over to the private sector.
Landon did well enough to win re-election in 1936 over John Nance Garner – he’d beaten Cummings for re-election in 1932. However, by 1940, with storm clouds rising, a President was needed who could take the country through what could be a terrible war. Already rumors of Japenese atrocities in China and the Philippines were coming in, and Britain couldn’t do it all themselves, not with Germany also a problem.
Thankfully, Landon had listened to the people, and begun to build up the military, partly because it would be a good way to produce jobs in the U.S. during the Depression.
34. Huey Long – 1941-1947 – LA
Having grown up in what Burr had created a century earlier, Long was used to thinking of everyone being equal. President Burnside had partly integrated the military - one of the reasons he’d had problems winning re-election despite his having been victorious in later Civil War battles using US Colored Troops – but there were still serious “income disparities,” as Long like to say. This wasn’t the time to help that, though.
Long found getting into war a lot harder than he’d expected, even with his arm-twisting and politicking. ‘Washington DC doesn’t work quite the same as Louisiana,” one pundit said, “he should know that from having been a Senator.” He would becompared with another hard-nosed, arm-twisting Senator later, Lyndon Johnson.
Long’s war was more popular than WW 1 had been, but it didn’t mean there weren’t problems. Once the war was won, his attempts to have everyone “share the wealth in peace as well” fell on deaf ears.
Long had made enemies, too. The Soviets were able, supposedly, to “get to” one, though many insist he acted alone. Whichever it was, in April of 1947, Long was shot and killed.
35. Millard Tydings – 1947-1949 – MD
Tydings had led the way in the Senate, years before the war, opposing and fearing Nazi anti-Semitism. He is credited with helping boost peacetime military production through his concerns that war could come. He was the perfect VP choice for Long, representing the Eastern Establishment. However, he opposed some of Long’s more liberal measures, insisted on a balanced budget in peacetime, and some said he might have been droppe from the ticket were it not for the war in ’44.
He did okay as President, but ultimately list his bid for re-election. He went back to the Senate and served after that, having become wel known as a Senator but one who “just wasn’t quite good enough as President.” Although, some said that Long’s liberal ways had messed up the economy, and under better circumstances, he might have won re-election in ’48.
36. Thomas Dewey – 1949-1957 – NY
Thomas Dewey continued New Deal programs with the checks on waste that Tydings had begun to implement, though Tydings had done so partly because of the GOP Congress in ’47 he’d also thought a balanced peacetime budget was best.
What he helped most with was the calming of tensions in various areas around the globe – the Berlin Blockade ended, Greece’s Civil War was won by anti-Communist forces, and America won the Korean War when Dwight Eisenhower, after having done so well in Europe, engineered one final “great landing” at Inchon and then stopped short of the Yalu River in 1951. (Note – with no Philippines, Gen. MacArthur isn’t as well known, the Ike is chosen to go into Asia.)as well as at home. His 1955 Civil Rights Act and 1956 Fair Housing Act helped to seal equality for African-Americans, after Long’s Voting Rights Act earlier.
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And, there we go, only Alabama, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Florida east of the Mississippi, and only Texas East of the Continental Divide remains. And there's lots of time left before 2020, so it can definitely be done. Let's see who can do more.
My list was actual VPs or major-party candidates with a chance.
But let's get silly.
Florida - Senator David Yulee Levy
New Mexico - Senator Harrison Schmitt
Mississippi - Senator Blanche Bruce
Oklahoma - Senator Thomas Gore
Attempt 2 Part 3
TLIAD – President from each state (sorry it’s only 47 states but it made it a bit easier, though boy this is a long title now) – part 3
37. Arthur Langlie – 1957-1961 – WA
Earl Warren was older, born back in 1891, and after a term as Dewey’s VP, he had suggested he would rather be on the Supreme Court; he didn’t feel he could be a good President in his late ‘50s with seeing what all pressure Dewey faced.
Therefore, Dewey – now secure running for re-election – chose a man serving his 2nd non-consecutive term as governor of Washington, Arthur B. Langlie. Langlie was seen as a good leader who would continue the roads and bridges projects that the GOP was espousing, complete with the national highway system which would be finished under his term.
Sadly, the economy slumped in 1958, and he faced a huge nomination fight just to get re-nominated in 1960, thanks to Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller. Nixon ultimately lost a close battle, and the California Senator vowed that he would be back.
38. John F. Kennedy – 1961-1963 – MA
Kennedy’s administration was marked by an increased ambition to try to win the Vietnam War; with Korea having been a victory, he was believed that the US could win this rather easily. HHe was assassinated before it could be known if he would pull troops out or escalate it, but overall he’s seen as a good President
39. Lyndon John – 1963-1969 – TX
Seen as “Huey Long II” by some, his hard-nosed politicking led to another increase in social programs, a disastrous war in Vietnam, and a huge election fight in 1964 against Richard Nixon that left all sides scarred.
40. Barry Goldwater – 1969-1972 – AZ
Goldwater ran as a conservative who would “bring sanity back after the chaos of the 1964 election.” His calm demeanor was very helpful, and his Vice President, House Mnority Leader Gerald Foord, was like Calvin Coolidge (who had remained in Vermont his whole life when his father decided not to advise him to go to massachusetts, including being governor there), was not a hugely well-known person but was “the kind of quiet individual you need to be a Vice President.”
However, Coolidge was assassinated by Arthur Bremer, and it was up to Ford to complete the pullout from Vietnam and to “bring a long, national nightmare to an end,” as he said on the anniversary of JFK’s death in 1973.
41. Gerald Ford – 1972-1977 – MI
Eschewing the more outspoken Spiro Agnew (luckily), Goldwater had chosen a man who was more of a grandfather-type for the White House, not having his huge, boisterous conservatism but rather the quiet, kind type which would endear him to many, even as he scaled back some things like federal help for New York City (which did recover by itself well). His VP became known for talking about “a kinder, gentler nation” that didn’t have all the clamor of the ‘60s – and VP Bush would be a good one. But, Ford’s Presidency was just average.
42. Frank Church – 1977-1981 – ID
The conservatism of the last 2 terms gave way to a more liberal President, but one who was mostly concerned with addressing the foreign policy shortcomigns which had led to the leoss in Vietnam, as well as CIA abuses. He chose Jimmy Carter as his VP.
Undernormal circumstances, he might have entered the race a lot later, but he decided to enter earlier and became a surprising front runner when the economic malaise hit. He ande Carter were fond of using that “malaise” term, but ultimately he wasn’t as good as beign President once he actually became President, though his Vice President and he did help hammer out the Camp David Accords in 1978 between Israel and Egypt.
43. George H.W. Bush – 1981-1981 – TX
Bush, a more liberal Republican, and his VP Richard Cheney, a close personal friend whom Bush had encouraged to enter politics and who had been in Congress for a few terms, won a fairly easy election. However, the nation was shocked when, two months into his term, Bush was shot and killed by John Hinckley.
44. Dick Cheney – 1981-1985 - WY
Cheney presided over a deep dip in the economy, and while he saw it begin to recover some, he found himself beaten narrowly in the 1984 election as his brand of conservatism was roundly criticized. Bush, it was said, was the moderate whom Ford chose and who seemed like the much better choice, but CHeney had tried to steer the party even further to the right than Goldwater, which drew lots of voters away, as he seemed little more than a political figurehead.
45. Gary Hart – 1985-1988 – CO
President Hart did well, but he had a serious problem with morlas, caught in an affair with a woman during his Presidency. He would often say to Cheney “Where’s the beef” during the President campaign and debates of 1984, inferring that there was no meat to Cheney’s politics or views, but the comment was thrown back at him in 1988 when people joked that the problem was his wife didn’t even know where his was half the time.
Knowing he would likely lose his attempt at renomination, and knowing that negotiations to end the Cold War were quite delicate, Hart resigned in early 1988 in favor of his Vice President.
46. Reubin Askew – 1988-1989 – FL
Governor Askew had sought the Democratic nomination and remained in a good while, finally dropping out and supporting Hart. A governor in the “new South,’ he was quite popular, and had been a trade representative in the late ‘70s, so he was also acquainted with foreign policy. He was thought to be an easy candidate to defeat for re-election, but he handled things surprising well, and only a very effective run by the nation’s first Jewish president.’
47. Warren Rudman – 1989-1993 – NH
Rudman was one of several President who have taken credit for wining the Cold War, including Cheney because of his increased military spending. Rudman was a centrist who did well as President, but while he was pushed into the Gulf War and won, he ended up losing his re-election bid, and some say that the first black President being a Republican came because of his liberal social politics. But first…
48. Danniel Inouye – 1993-2001 – HI
Good President who led America during the prosperous ‘90s.
49. Charles Barkley – 2001-2005 – AL
The inclusiveiness of the GOP leads to this man, who is rather conservative but who was able to draw black voters and defeat Inouye’s VP. Fed up with Washington, he chooses to serve only one term, claiming that the nation has “gone crazy.”
50. John Edwards – 2005-2006 – NC
Resigned, like Hart, due to sexual scandal that, had it been revealed years earlier, would have wrecked his political career.
51. Ron Wyden – 2006-2009 – OR
Put on to balance the ticket, Wyden ended up losing due to economic collapse.
52. Sarah Palin – 2009-2013 – AK
When John McCain dies before the inauguration, she is elevated to the top spot and serves a… wild 4 years.
53. Mitt Romney – 2013-2017 – UT
Wins a term after Palin declines to run again, claiming Barkley ushered in a new tradition and, in his words, “The Presidency really is ridiculous – all of America is ridiculous now.”
54 – Bill Richardson – 2017-? - NM
As the parties began to fracture, with the liberal and conservative wings yet to coalesce into their own parties, pundits said 2 things. First, the parties might have become a conservative and liberal party before had tigns gone differently. And, second, it made sense that a third party candidate would unite the two as a “common sense” leader, with 5 actual cadidates running.
There, pnew, I think I did it. If I missed one, you can have Richardson leave or someone else elected in 2020.
That was tough even having there be 47 states thanks to no Arkansas, Oklahoma, or 2nd Dakota. And...oh, I did miss Nevada. Let's see...
55. Brian Sandoval - 2021=? MV.
There. Tricky, but I made it!
37. Arthur Langlie – 1957-1961 – WA
Earl Warren was older, born back in 1891, and after a term as Dewey’s VP, he had suggested he would rather be on the Supreme Court; he didn’t feel he could be a good President in his late ‘50s with seeing what all pressure Dewey faced.
Therefore, Dewey – now secure running for re-election – chose a man serving his 2nd non-consecutive term as governor of Washington, Arthur B. Langlie. Langlie was seen as a good leader who would continue the roads and bridges projects that the GOP was espousing, complete with the national highway system which would be finished under his term.
Sadly, the economy slumped in 1958, and he faced a huge nomination fight just to get re-nominated in 1960, thanks to Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller. Nixon ultimately lost a close battle, and the California Senator vowed that he would be back.
38. John F. Kennedy – 1961-1963 – MA
Kennedy’s administration was marked by an increased ambition to try to win the Vietnam War; with Korea having been a victory, he was believed that the US could win this rather easily. HHe was assassinated before it could be known if he would pull troops out or escalate it, but overall he’s seen as a good President
39. Lyndon John – 1963-1969 – TX
Seen as “Huey Long II” by some, his hard-nosed politicking led to another increase in social programs, a disastrous war in Vietnam, and a huge election fight in 1964 against Richard Nixon that left all sides scarred.
40. Barry Goldwater – 1969-1972 – AZ
Goldwater ran as a conservative who would “bring sanity back after the chaos of the 1964 election.” His calm demeanor was very helpful, and his Vice President, House Mnority Leader Gerald Foord, was like Calvin Coolidge (who had remained in Vermont his whole life when his father decided not to advise him to go to massachusetts, including being governor there), was not a hugely well-known person but was “the kind of quiet individual you need to be a Vice President.”
However, Coolidge was assassinated by Arthur Bremer, and it was up to Ford to complete the pullout from Vietnam and to “bring a long, national nightmare to an end,” as he said on the anniversary of JFK’s death in 1973.
41. Gerald Ford – 1972-1977 – MI
Eschewing the more outspoken Spiro Agnew (luckily), Goldwater had chosen a man who was more of a grandfather-type for the White House, not having his huge, boisterous conservatism but rather the quiet, kind type which would endear him to many, even as he scaled back some things like federal help for New York City (which did recover by itself well). His VP became known for talking about “a kinder, gentler nation” that didn’t have all the clamor of the ‘60s – and VP Bush would be a good one. But, Ford’s Presidency was just average.
42. Frank Church – 1977-1981 – ID
The conservatism of the last 2 terms gave way to a more liberal President, but one who was mostly concerned with addressing the foreign policy shortcomigns which had led to the leoss in Vietnam, as well as CIA abuses. He chose Jimmy Carter as his VP.
Undernormal circumstances, he might have entered the race a lot later, but he decided to enter earlier and became a surprising front runner when the economic malaise hit. He ande Carter were fond of using that “malaise” term, but ultimately he wasn’t as good as beign President once he actually became President, though his Vice President and he did help hammer out the Camp David Accords in 1978 between Israel and Egypt.
43. George H.W. Bush – 1981-1981 – TX
Bush, a more liberal Republican, and his VP Richard Cheney, a close personal friend whom Bush had encouraged to enter politics and who had been in Congress for a few terms, won a fairly easy election. However, the nation was shocked when, two months into his term, Bush was shot and killed by John Hinckley.
44. Dick Cheney – 1981-1985 - WY
Cheney presided over a deep dip in the economy, and while he saw it begin to recover some, he found himself beaten narrowly in the 1984 election as his brand of conservatism was roundly criticized. Bush, it was said, was the moderate whom Ford chose and who seemed like the much better choice, but CHeney had tried to steer the party even further to the right than Goldwater, which drew lots of voters away, as he seemed little more than a political figurehead.
45. Gary Hart – 1985-1988 – CO
President Hart did well, but he had a serious problem with morlas, caught in an affair with a woman during his Presidency. He would often say to Cheney “Where’s the beef” during the President campaign and debates of 1984, inferring that there was no meat to Cheney’s politics or views, but the comment was thrown back at him in 1988 when people joked that the problem was his wife didn’t even know where his was half the time.
Knowing he would likely lose his attempt at renomination, and knowing that negotiations to end the Cold War were quite delicate, Hart resigned in early 1988 in favor of his Vice President.
46. Reubin Askew – 1988-1989 – FL
Governor Askew had sought the Democratic nomination and remained in a good while, finally dropping out and supporting Hart. A governor in the “new South,’ he was quite popular, and had been a trade representative in the late ‘70s, so he was also acquainted with foreign policy. He was thought to be an easy candidate to defeat for re-election, but he handled things surprising well, and only a very effective run by the nation’s first Jewish president.’
47. Warren Rudman – 1989-1993 – NH
Rudman was one of several President who have taken credit for wining the Cold War, including Cheney because of his increased military spending. Rudman was a centrist who did well as President, but while he was pushed into the Gulf War and won, he ended up losing his re-election bid, and some say that the first black President being a Republican came because of his liberal social politics. But first…
48. Danniel Inouye – 1993-2001 – HI
Good President who led America during the prosperous ‘90s.
49. Charles Barkley – 2001-2005 – AL
The inclusiveiness of the GOP leads to this man, who is rather conservative but who was able to draw black voters and defeat Inouye’s VP. Fed up with Washington, he chooses to serve only one term, claiming that the nation has “gone crazy.”
50. John Edwards – 2005-2006 – NC
Resigned, like Hart, due to sexual scandal that, had it been revealed years earlier, would have wrecked his political career.
51. Ron Wyden – 2006-2009 – OR
Put on to balance the ticket, Wyden ended up losing due to economic collapse.
52. Sarah Palin – 2009-2013 – AK
When John McCain dies before the inauguration, she is elevated to the top spot and serves a… wild 4 years.
53. Mitt Romney – 2013-2017 – UT
Wins a term after Palin declines to run again, claiming Barkley ushered in a new tradition and, in his words, “The Presidency really is ridiculous – all of America is ridiculous now.”
54 – Bill Richardson – 2017-? - NM
As the parties began to fracture, with the liberal and conservative wings yet to coalesce into their own parties, pundits said 2 things. First, the parties might have become a conservative and liberal party before had tigns gone differently. And, second, it made sense that a third party candidate would unite the two as a “common sense” leader, with 5 actual cadidates running.
There, pnew, I think I did it. If I missed one, you can have Richardson leave or someone else elected in 2020.
That was tough even having there be 47 states thanks to no Arkansas, Oklahoma, or 2nd Dakota. And...oh, I did miss Nevada. Let's see...
55. Brian Sandoval - 2021=? MV.
There. Tricky, but I made it!
Attempt 3
The main issue we have is that in the early stages of the presidency and vice presidency, politics was dominated by three states Virginia, New York and Massachusetts, due to their politicians and their state electorates, with these three states contributing to 17 of the 46 presidents
Attempt at Presidents from all 50 States, sod the butterflies and keeping partie lol working progress
1) George Washington 1789-1797 (I-VA) [1]
2) John Adams 1797-1801 (F-MA) [1]
3) Aaron Burr 1801-1805 (DR-NY) [2]
4) Pierce Butler 1805-1813 (DR-SC) [3]
5) James Fenner 1813-1821 (DR-RI) [4]
6) Andrew Jackson 1825-1832 ! (DR-TN) [5]
7) William H. Crawford 1832-1841 (DR-GA) [6]
8) William Harrison 1841 ¡ (W-OH) [1]
9) Willie P. Mangum 1841-1845 (W-NC) [7]
10) Lewis Cass 1845-1849 (D-MI) [8]
11) Zachary Taylor 1849-1851 (W-LA) [1]
12) Henry Clay 1851-1853 (W-KY) [9]
13) Franklin Pierce 1853-1857 (D-NH) [1]
14) Jefferson Davis 1857-1861 (D-MS) [10]
15) Abraham Lincoln 1861-1865 ! (R-IL) [1]
16) Lafayette S. Foster 1865-1869 (R-CT) [11]
17) Schuyler Colfax 1869-1877 (R-IN) [12]
18) James G. Blaine 1877-1881 ! (R-ME) [13]
19) George F. Edmunds 1881-1885 (R-VT) [14]
20) Samuel J. Randall 1885-1889 (D-PA) [15]
21) William W. Phelps 1889-1893 (R-NJ) [16]
22) Horace Boies 1893-1897 (D-IA) [17]
23) John E. Rickards 1897-1901 ! (R-MT) [18]
24) Edward O. Wolcott 1901-1909 (R-CO) [19]
25) Robert M. La Follette 1909-1913 (R-WI) [20]
26) Oscar Underwood 1913-1915 ¡ (D-AL) [21]
27) John Burke 1915-1921 (D-ND) [22]
28) Hiram Johnson 1921-1929 (R-CA) [23]
29) George Norris 1929-1933 (R-NE) [24]
30) John Nance Garner 1933-1941 (D-TX) [25]
31) Harry Truman 1941-1953 (D-MO) [26]
32) Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961 (R-KS) [1]
33) Herbert H. Humphries 1961-1963 ! (D-MN) [27]
34) Wayne Morse 1963-1969 (D-WA) [28]
35) George W. Romney 1969-1973 * (R-UH) [29]
36) Spiro Agnew 1973 * (R-MD) [30]
37) Carl Albert 1973 * (D-OK) [31]
38) Gerald Ford 1973-1977 (R-MI) [1]
39) Mo Udall 1977-1981! (D-AZ) [32]
40) Frank Church 1981 (D-ID) [33]
41) Paul Laxalt 1981-1989 (R-DE) [34]
42) Pete du Pont 1989-1993 (R-DE) [35]
43) Bill Clinton 1993-1998 (D-AR) [36]
44) Tom Daschle 1998-2001 (D-SD) [37]
45) Gary Johnson 2001 ! (R-NM) [38]
46) Dick Cheney 2001-2009 (R-WY) [39]
47) Barack Obama 2009-2017 (D-HI) [40]
48) Jeb Bush 2017-2019 (R-FL) [41]
49) Sarah Palin 2019-2021 (R-AK) [42]
50) Tim Kane 2021-Present (D-WV) [43]
¡ - Died in office
! - Assassinated
* - Resign
^ - impeached
[1] Same as OTL
[2] Burr defeats Jefferson, he only serves one term, he was unpopular with the public and in 1804 was succeeded by:
[3] Senator Pierce Butler of South Carolina was a dark horse in this election with Virginia splitting their votes between Butler, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe, Butler won every state’s votes south of Virginia and picked up a few in the north who saw him as an alternative to the Virginia three.
[4] Similar to the election of 1804, Many Democratic-Republicans in the northern states were unhappy over the perceived dominance of the presidency by the Southern state, and wished instead to nominate one of their own choosing Former Governor of Rhode Island James Fenner
[5] War hero Andrew Jackson was elected as
Senator Paul Laxalt of Nevada
Attempt at Presidents from all 50 States, sod the butterflies and keeping partie lol working progress
1) George Washington 1789-1797 (I-VA) [1]
2) John Adams 1797-1801 (F-MA) [1]
3) Aaron Burr 1801-1805 (DR-NY) [2]
4) Pierce Butler 1805-1813 (DR-SC) [3]
5) James Fenner 1813-1821 (DR-RI) [4]
6) Andrew Jackson 1825-1832 ! (DR-TN) [5]
7) William H. Crawford 1832-1841 (DR-GA) [6]
8) William Harrison 1841 ¡ (W-OH) [1]
9) Willie P. Mangum 1841-1845 (W-NC) [7]
10) Lewis Cass 1845-1849 (D-MI) [8]
11) Zachary Taylor 1849-1851 (W-LA) [1]
12) Henry Clay 1851-1853 (W-KY) [9]
13) Franklin Pierce 1853-1857 (D-NH) [1]
14) Jefferson Davis 1857-1861 (D-MS) [10]
15) Abraham Lincoln 1861-1865 ! (R-IL) [1]
16) Lafayette S. Foster 1865-1869 (R-CT) [11]
17) Schuyler Colfax 1869-1877 (R-IN) [12]
18) James G. Blaine 1877-1881 ! (R-ME) [13]
19) George F. Edmunds 1881-1885 (R-VT) [14]
20) Samuel J. Randall 1885-1889 (D-PA) [15]
21) William W. Phelps 1889-1893 (R-NJ) [16]
22) Horace Boies 1893-1897 (D-IA) [17]
23) John E. Rickards 1897-1901 ! (R-MT) [18]
24) Edward O. Wolcott 1901-1909 (R-CO) [19]
25) Robert M. La Follette 1909-1913 (R-WI) [20]
26) Oscar Underwood 1913-1915 ¡ (D-AL) [21]
27) John Burke 1915-1921 (D-ND) [22]
28) Hiram Johnson 1921-1929 (R-CA) [23]
29) George Norris 1929-1933 (R-NE) [24]
30) John Nance Garner 1933-1941 (D-TX) [25]
31) Harry Truman 1941-1953 (D-MO) [26]
32) Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961 (R-KS) [1]
33) Herbert H. Humphries 1961-1963 ! (D-MN) [27]
34) Wayne Morse 1963-1969 (D-WA) [28]
35) George W. Romney 1969-1973 * (R-UH) [29]
36) Spiro Agnew 1973 * (R-MD) [30]
37) Carl Albert 1973 * (D-OK) [31]
38) Gerald Ford 1973-1977 (R-MI) [1]
39) Mo Udall 1977-1981! (D-AZ) [32]
40) Frank Church 1981 (D-ID) [33]
41) Paul Laxalt 1981-1989 (R-DE) [34]
42) Pete du Pont 1989-1993 (R-DE) [35]
43) Bill Clinton 1993-1998 (D-AR) [36]
44) Tom Daschle 1998-2001 (D-SD) [37]
45) Gary Johnson 2001 ! (R-NM) [38]
46) Dick Cheney 2001-2009 (R-WY) [39]
47) Barack Obama 2009-2017 (D-HI) [40]
48) Jeb Bush 2017-2019 (R-FL) [41]
49) Sarah Palin 2019-2021 (R-AK) [42]
50) Tim Kane 2021-Present (D-WV) [43]
¡ - Died in office
! - Assassinated
* - Resign
^ - impeached
[1] Same as OTL
[2] Burr defeats Jefferson, he only serves one term, he was unpopular with the public and in 1804 was succeeded by:
[3] Senator Pierce Butler of South Carolina was a dark horse in this election with Virginia splitting their votes between Butler, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe, Butler won every state’s votes south of Virginia and picked up a few in the north who saw him as an alternative to the Virginia three.
[4] Similar to the election of 1804, Many Democratic-Republicans in the northern states were unhappy over the perceived dominance of the presidency by the Southern state, and wished instead to nominate one of their own choosing Former Governor of Rhode Island James Fenner
[5] War hero Andrew Jackson was elected as
Senator Paul Laxalt of Nevada
Presumably Albert resigned right after taking office. In OTL he didn't want the job.
Agnew would be OTL as well. But I'd be interested in why Romney resigned. He wasn't a crook as far as we know.
As I read the title, I had an idea that popped into my head. Could we imagine a crisis in the United States analogous to that of the Roman Empire in the third century (between 235 and 284 there were twenty-one emperors, two of whom died of natural causes)?
A president is appointed by his state and his militia as "President of the United States" and has to face three or four presidents of other states with the same ambitions as him.
With military defeats, betrayals, assassinations, you could easily increase the number of presidents from all the American states.
A president is appointed by his state and his militia as "President of the United States" and has to face three or four presidents of other states with the same ambitions as him.
With military defeats, betrayals, assassinations, you could easily increase the number of presidents from all the American states.
Yes the year of four presidents.
I’ll write this in my footnotes when I get time. In this TL, Romney is linked to the break in at the Watergate hotel, which Republican president pro tempore, Richard Nixon pushed for.
Following Romney resignation led to Vice President Agnew to became president but was under investigation by the US Attorney for the District of Maryland on suspicion of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion and tax fraud, before he was unable to implement a Vice President nomination before being pushed to resign rather than impeached.
As speaker of the house, Albert was forced to resign from the office of Speaker as well as the House.
Annoyed as he didn’t want the job, he quickly nominated Republican House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford as his Vice President and resigned after his inauguration.
Albert was able to return to the house following Oklahoma Governor David Hall, appointing him to his previous vacant seat and once back in congress was renominated as speaker unanimously and with standing ovation from all parties.
Albert remains the only ex-president to return to congress (Lafayette S. Foster after four years in the presidency would take up an office in the Supreme Court)
Governor can't appoint a House member. However, the Speaker technically doesn't have to be a House member. So the workaround would be to elect him Speaker right away and let his district vote him back into his seat in the special election.
For Rhode Island I read once that Buddy Cianci, the corrupt former mayor of Providence, had dreams of becoming Vice President. Maybe he could be added to the ticket as a moderate East Coaster to balance out a more conservative president and then get the position in his own right.
Thank you for letting me know. I knew they could do senators, didn’t realise they didn’t appoint representatives, but definitely want him back in the speakers chair.