They would have known each other. They met at Arthur’s wedding back in 1501, and probably saw each other on occasion until Margaret left England to marry King James of Scotland.Henry wanted her to write to the Queen of Scots, his sister whom she had never even met?
Margaret and Catherine knew each other as Margaret left England for Scotland only after her mother’s death
Ahhh you are both so right idk how I missed that lolThey would have known each other
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Thanks! Yeah Arthur probably wouldn’t have gotten Elizabeth considering Henry’s otl feelings towards his Scottish relations but a younger daughter would do just fine...Great update! Hopefully Margaret is okay, Arthur would have been a fine husband for Elizabeth.
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But that was due to their Catholicism and reaction to his Protestantism, prior to that relations were decent AIUI. Aside from the hiccup that was Flodden of course.Yeah Arthur probably wouldn’t have gotten Elizabeth considering Henry’s otl feelings towards his Scottish relations but a younger daughter would do just fine...
Well Henry still didn’t want to marry Mary in Scotland IOTL while she was legitimate/heiress.But that was due to their Catholicism and reaction to his Protestantism, prior to that relations were decent AIUI. Aside from the hiccup that was Flodden of course.
True, in there case a younger sibling does work better.Well Henry still didn’t want to marry Mary in Scotland IOTL while she was legitimate/heiress.
Ten healthy daughters is a bit of an overstretch for Henry and Catalina to be quite blunt.So is King Henry VIII only going to have daughters. If he marred Elizabeth off the a foreign ruler like Henry Ii of there would be big proplems if he still divorces Catherine. Also if he gets let's say 10 doughter from Catherine of Aragon and has them marred to English lords and foreign nobility he could face civil war or rebellion.
A woman is pregnant for 9 months say in between those moths she has three months without pregnancy. Eleanor of castile over period of 30 years had over 15 pregnancies. And I believe Queen Philippa Edward the first wife had over 10 pregnancies but I think there could be more. It's 1510 and I think she could have children until late 1520s so that could lead to 10 pregnancies.Ten daughters is an overstretch to be quite blunt.
So is King Henry VIII only going to have daughters. If he marred Elizabeth off the a foreign ruler like Henry Ii of there would be big proplems if he still divorces Catherine. Also if he gets let's say 10 doughter from Catherine of Aragon and has them marred to English lords and foreign nobility he could face civil war or rebellion.
Ten daughters is an overstretch to be quite blunt.
Henry and Katherine will have six daughters - Elizabeth (b. 1510), Mary (b. 1511), Katherine (b. 1513), Margaret (b. 1514), Anne (b. 1516), and Joan (b. 1518)A woman is pregnant for 9 months say in between those moths she has three months without pregnancy. Eleanor of castile over period of 30 years had over 15 pregnancies. And I believe Queen Philippa Edward the first wife had over 10 pregnancies but I think there could be more. It's 1510 and I think she could have children until late 1520s so that could lead to 10 pregnancies.
Which will do wonders for Henry's ego. I mean I can only imagine how he will feel at having six healthy daughters but never having a son.Henry and Katherine will have six daughters - Elizabeth (b. 1510), Mary (b. 1511), Katherine (b. 1513), Margaret (b. 1514), Anne (b. 1516), and Joan (b. 1518)
I can definitely see Henrys eldest daughter's being marred before he divorces Catherine of Aragon but that would be harder she has giving him lots of doughters. Have you thought about Henrietta for a name I do not know if king Henry would like it or not.Henry and Katherine will have six daughters - Elizabeth (b. 1510), Mary (b. 1511), Katherine (b. 1513), Margaret (b. 1514), Anne (b. 1516), and Joan (b. 1518)
Quite true, and there could be even more if some are twins - but I see it's not @curlyhairedhippie's plan. If I'm not mistaken, the largest number of non-twin births I know of for one woman is 13 with a 22-year gap between the first and last ones. Several of them only lived a few days/weeks though.A woman is pregnant for 9 months say in between those moths she has three months without pregnancy. Eleanor of castile over period of 30 years had over 15 pregnancies. And I believe Queen Philippa Edward the first wife had over 10 pregnancies but I think there could be more. It's 1510 and I think she could have children until late 1520s so that could lead to 10 pregnancies.
I think the reduction in children is also because it would be harder to write about 10 daughters than it would be to develop 6 characters.Quite true, and there could be even more if some are twins - but I see it's not @curlyhairedhippie's plan. If I'm not mistaken, the largest number of non-twin births I know of for one woman is 13 with a 22-year gap between the first and last ones. Several of them only lived a few days/weeks though.
Oh sure. Even six is quite a lot. (btw, I checked the tree and as I suspected, only 6 of the 13 kids I mentioned reached adulthood so even if having 10 daughters is quite possible, having them all live long enough to marry is another matter.)I think the reduction in children is also because it would be harder to write about 10 daughters than it would be to develop 6 characters.
We will have to see if Henry VIII still divorced Catherine if he did that with his doughters marred to foreign Kings are Princes or even his own nobility Couse civil war or foreign invasion. Or alternatively he goes with the idea of Elizabeth getting the crown. If Henry Dies not have the same health problems as his OTL self it very possible he gets to see his grandson become a man before his death.Oh sure. Even six is quite a lot. (btw, I checked the tree and as I suspected, only 6 of the 13 kids I mentioned reached adulthood so even if having 10 daughters is quite possible, having them all live long enough to marry is another matter.)
Now that's funny, I didn't realise: is TTL Henry going to have two wives and six daughters instead of six wives and two daughters (well, not counting Edward VI)?
Another possibility is that Elizabeth marries Constable Bourbon, starting a Bourbon England.We will have to see if Henry VIII still divorced Catherine if he did that with his doughters marred to foreign Kings are Princes or even his own nobility Couse civil war or foreign invasion. Or alternatively he goes with the idea of Elizabeth getting the crown. If Henry Dies not have the same health problems as his OTL self it very possible he gets to see his grandson become a man before his death.
That would be interesting a united Kingdom of England and France I believe the 16th century and 17th century would be more interesting. There would be two power blocks of Bourbon and Hasburgs dynastys fighting over Europe and the new world.Another possibility is that Elizabeth marries Constable Bourbon, starting a Bourbon England.