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I guess the Chetniks here are subsumed into the WAllies? Or the Dinara Division got destroyed?

A bad time to be a German in occupied Serbia, since the very instant the Western Allies land, all their collaborates will immediately turn on them with a vengeance
 

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Here's a map of the Republic of Colombia in 1860 that I commissioned for my Gran Colombia Timeline!

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Credits go to Luk_Zloty: reddit and devianart.
I was going to go read that since it is a very nicemap, but woah, huge! ;-)

Would you mind giving a TL;DR and how Colombia in this timeline avoided being so ridden with internal conflict that it was able to stay together?
 
I guess the Chetniks here are subsumed into the WAllies? Or the Dinara Division got destroyed?

A bad time to be a German in occupied Serbia, since the very instant the Western Allies land, all their collaborates will immediately turn on them with a vengeance
If I’m not wrong the chetniks will be purged as OTL since Tito has the upper hand. Yet
King Peter II will remain on his throne with Tito as Prime Minister founding the Socialist Federal Kingdom of Yugoslavia
 
Thank you! I might make a successor map focusing on this idea :)

I've also updated the map with some more detailed lore.

Sounds really good, Azerbaijan have always been a pretty easy place to make large linguistic change and with theRus hitting in the middle of the Turkish, it would be even easier.
 
If I’m not wrong the chetniks will be purged as OTL since Tito has the upper hand. Yet
King Peter II will remain on his throne with Tito as Prime Minister founding the Socialist Federal Kingdom of Yugoslavia
That is the most blessed thing I have ever seen and I work on TRO
 
So, I was discussing the phenomenon of "Ideal World Maps" that was big a few years back with some people & I decided to make something of a parody on the concept.

It takes 1 part things I actually believe in scaled up to insane amounts I no longer support & 6 parts things I meme on scaled up to even greater insanity. I tried to subvert the tropes of these maps as well, which, since I don't like Britwanks, Ameriwanks, & Deutschwanks that pretend to be wholesome wasn't hard, but I also in a roundabout way followed many of the tropes intentionally. For example, the implicit genocide that was a staple of such maps is explicit here & is in one case reversed onto white Christians, namely Mormons (I guess one might see this as a monstrous and evil hyperexaggeration of me taking issue with a few things in the LDS creed). The map is, as should be obvious to any non-psychopath, not an ideal world. I might even say it's worse. This is also not meant to insult people who made such maps, rather to poke fun at trends, tropes, & a few unfortunately questionable maps that were posted. It is an experiment in implicit & explicit cursedness. This isn't in shitposts just because the map actually turned out not too bad for a Worlda.

If this post shouldn't be here or shouldn't be posted at all to begin with, I am happy to oblige, though, again, I DO NOT ACTUALLY ENDORSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS MAP, LIKE LITERALLY I ENDORSE THE PROTECTION OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST, MAKING FUN OF AUSTRALIANS, AND PAN SLAVISM, NOT ALL THE OTHER MADNESS AND EVEN THE STUFF I SUPPORT IS MOSTLY WARPED THROUGH EXAGGERATION. It is a parody. Without further ado, get ready to cry:


Americas:

- The US has been partitioned between Canada and Mexico. Canada is a republic, overall quite inclusive & democratic, healthcare & shit. Mexico is a growing economic powerhouse. The Free States of the South are a majority-black democratic republic. Black people are present and welcome throughout the Americas, but if they want a state by black people and unofficially for black people, they can move here. Owning a confederate flag is punishable by spanking with a willow frond. The Mormon extermination zone is going well.
- The Zapatistas finally broke away - Haiti got big & also ate almost all European possessions in the Caribbean
- Guyana & Trinidad-Tobago are one
- Beeg Colombia, Venezuela, & Bolivia, the classic Argentina gets Uruguay & Las Malvinas (go away anglo)
- French Guyana is free as the Republic of Amazonia
- The Amazon is a UN international park that somehow actually functions.
- Hawaii & Oklahoma are independent states in free association with Mexico. To continue living the American lifestyle, go to Virginia, the rump/puppet Canada keeps around

Europe:

- The Vatican is gone
- Bit more Poldering by the Dutch
- Germany has been deleted. So have Austria & Belgium. France ends at the Rhine, Bayern got thicc, Sorbia is free, Poland can into west, the Danes & Dutch also got a bit. What's left is a UN occupation zone whose governing council must consist of one Jew, on Slav, & one Romani along with 2 others.
- Big autonomy in Spain
- Slovakia gets Carpathian Ruthenia, Poland wank Poland wank. The Slavs, Balts & Romanians coalesce into a EU-style union, the Russians are kept out to avoid them dominating. What's left of Ukraine after the Russo-Polish partition is a Slavic Union occupation zone as punishment for being cringe. Yugoslavia is back & bigger. Serbia looks oddly different this time... hmmmmm. Also that's not Croatia, it's Slovenia.
- United Ireland, you can't take away Scotland's FREEDOOOOOOOOOM, England is occupied by various former colonies to extract reparations. All living members of the royal family are enslaved, the next generation will be freed though

Asia:

- The Saudis lose land to Yemen, Oman, & a restored Hejaz under the Jordanian Hashemites
- Kurdish autonomy in Syria
- Israel & Palestine 1 state 2 nations federal solution
- Armenia gets Karabakh
- Persia gets big. Why? Iran has cool history & I like. Unfortunately for Shahaboos, it's still an Islamic republic, but the authoritarianism has mellowed out substantially
- Free Karakalpakstan
- United India, but Muslim autonomy is respected
- Bhutan wank
- Federalized China
- United Korea. The DPRK is actually Democratic by the magic power of wholesomechungusization
- That's Laos, not Thailand
- Weebland loses the Ryukyus
- Big Pilipinas, also Brunei is eaten, Sarawak gets its own subnational monarchy in the Malaysian rotary system. Free Timor, united Papua
- Champa gets autonomy! The Cham aren't gone!
- North Sentinel Island stands as a shining light of primitivism in a world of technological advancement. They don't need your fancy tech & nominal Indian sovereignty

Greater & lesser Zealandia:

- The Waititi Kingdom of Aotearoa reigns supreme! One specific town in the former Australia has been destroyed by flooding. The Australians are happy to live under their wholesome chungus Maori overlords.

Africa:

- The Libyan Jamhiriya is restored under the leadership of the Libyan-Yugoslav band Jamhiriya. Gadaffism spreads out, but not too far
- Long Egypt
- The Green Sahara project is going well in the refloration area. Expanding Lake Chad has also been a great succes
- Western Sahara is free
- Chad is partitioned by Libya & the Central African Republic as punishment for supporting Kosovo
- Most of Sub-Saharan Africa has changed little beyond the occasional regional supranational union & the arbitrary unification of the Congos "lmao similar name also I'm tired of seeing the DRC partitioned", in keeping with the "if I don't know the region, I won't change it much just to be safe" trope in such maps

Broader:

- Island colonies & small overseas territories are either given independence or attached to a nearby former colony of the same power if they're largely uninhabited




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La France continue la guerre (France fights on)
I like that TL but haven't managed to follow it all that well. Thanks for the maps!
Ideal World Maps
Actually, that Canada looks genuinely good. Libya is alright. The Saharan development zone is a cool idea. New Zealand is

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I like that TL but haven't managed to follow it all that well. Thanks for the maps!

Actually, that Canada looks genuinely good. Libya is alright. The Saharan development zone is a cool idea. New Zealand is

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Thanks, though that Canada would definitely quickly become a case of the tail wagging the dog. Ah yes, AltGeo isn't for everyone. Honestly, I usually don't like it much myself, but I do like the concepts of Zealandia & a thawed out Antarctic archipelago. As for Libya, well, most people don't like Gadaffism & visually, yeah I'm happy enough with it.
 
So, I was discussing the phenomenon of "Ideal World Maps" that was big a few years back with some people & I decided to make something of a parody on the concept.

It takes 1 part things I actually believe in scaled up to insane amounts I no longer support & 6 parts things I meme on scaled up to even greater insanity. I tried to subvert the tropes of these maps as well, which, since I don't like Britwanks, Ameriwanks, & Deutschwanks that pretend to be wholesome wasn't hard, but I also in a roundabout way followed many of the tropes intentionally. For example, the implicit genocide that was a staple of such maps is explicit here & is in one case reversed onto white Christians, namely Mormons (I guess one might see this as a monstrous and evil hyperexaggeration of me taking issue with a few things in the LDS creed). The map is, as should be obvious to any non-psychopath, not an ideal world. I might even say it's worse. This is also not meant to insult people who made such maps, rather to poke fun at trends, tropes, & a few unfortunately questionable maps that were posted. It is an experiment in implicit & explicit cursedness. This isn't in shitposts just because the map actually turned out not too bad for a Worlda.

If this post shouldn't be here or shouldn't be posted at all to begin with, I am happy to oblige, though, again, I DO NOT ACTUALLY ENDORSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS MAP, LIKE LITERALLY I ENDORSE THE PROTECTION OF THE AMAZON RAINFOREST, MAKING FUN OF AUSTRALIANS, AND PAN SLAVISM, NOT ALL THE OTHER MADNESS AND EVEN THE STUFF I SUPPORT IS MOSTLY WARPED THROUGH EXAGGERATION. It is a parody. Without further ado, get ready to cry:


Americas:

- The US has been partitioned between Canada and Mexico. Canada is a republic, overall quite inclusive & democratic, healthcare & shit. Mexico is a growing economic powerhouse. The Free States of the South are a majority-black democratic republic. Black people are present and welcome throughout the Americas, but if they want a state by black people and unofficially for black people, they can move here. Owning a confederate flag is punishable by spanking with a willow frond. The Mormon extermination zone is going well.
- The Zapatistas finally broke away - Haiti got big & also ate almost all European possessions in the Caribbean
- Guyana & Trinidad-Tobago are one
- Beeg Colombia, Venezuela, & Bolivia, the classic Argentina gets Uruguay & Las Malvinas (go away anglo)
- French Guyana is free as the Republic of Amazonia
- The Amazon is a UN international park that somehow actually functions.
- Hawaii & Oklahoma are independent states in free association with Mexico. To continue living the American lifestyle, go to Virginia, the rump/puppet Canada keeps around

Europe:

- The Vatican is gone
- Bit more Poldering by the Dutch
- Germany has been deleted. So have Austria & Belgium. France ends at the Rhine, Bayern got thicc, Sorbia is free, Poland can into west, the Danes & Dutch also got a bit. What's left is a UN occupation zone whose governing council must consist of one Jew, on Slav, & one Romani along with 2 others.
- Big autonomy in Spain
- Slovakia gets Carpathian Ruthenia, Poland wank Poland wank. The Slavs, Balts & Romanians coalesce into a EU-style union, the Russians are kept out to avoid them dominating. What's left of Ukraine after the Russo-Polish partition is a Slavic Union occupation zone as punishment for being cringe. Yugoslavia is back & bigger. Serbia looks oddly different this time... hmmmmm. Also that's not Croatia, it's Slovenia.
- United Ireland, you can't take away Scotland's FREEDOOOOOOOOOM, England is occupied by various former colonies to extract reparations. All living members of the royal family are enslaved, the next generation will be freed though

Asia:

- The Saudis lose land to Yemen, Oman, & a restored Hejaz under the Jordanian Hashemites
- Kurdish autonomy in Syria
- Israel & Palestine 1 state 2 nations federal solution
- Armenia gets Karabakh
- Persia gets big. Why? Iran has cool history & I like. Unfortunately for Shahaboos, it's still an Islamic republic, but the authoritarianism has mellowed out substantially
- Free Karakalpakstan
- United India, but Muslim autonomy is respected
- Bhutan wank
- Federalized China
- United Korea. The DPRK is actually Democratic by the magic power of wholesomechungusization
- That's Laos, not Thailand
- Weebland loses the Ryukyus
- Big Pilipinas, also Brunei is eaten, Sarawak gets its own subnational monarchy in the Malaysian rotary system. Free Timor, united Papua
- Champa gets autonomy! The Cham aren't gone!
- North Sentinel Island stands as a shining light of primitivism in a world of technological advancement. They don't need your fancy tech & nominal Indian sovereignty

Greater & lesser Zealandia:

- The Waititi Kingdom of Aotearoa reigns supreme! One specific town in the former Australia has been destroyed by flooding. The Australians are happy to live under their wholesome chungus Maori overlords.

Africa:

- The Libyan Jamhiriya is restored under the leadership of the Libyan-Yugoslav band Jamhiriya. Gadaffism spreads out, but not too far
- Long Egypt
- The Green Sahara project is going well in the refloration area. Expanding Lake Chad has also been a great succes
- Western Sahara is free
- Chad is partitioned by Libya & the Central African Republic as punishment for supporting Kosovo
- Most of Sub-Saharan Africa has changed little beyond the occasional regional supranational union & the arbitrary unification of the Congos "lmao similar name also I'm tired of seeing the DRC partitioned", in keeping with the "if I don't know the region, I won't change it much just to be safe" trope in such maps

Broader:

- Island colonies & small overseas territories are either given independence or attached to a nearby former colony of the same power if they're largely uninhabited




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I like the idea. I remember seeing the old thread for this long ago. I don’t think this is too bad, actually - besides the bit about the Mormons - we have a democratic unified Korea, united Ireland, federalized China, what seems to be peace in the Middle East, what’s not to like? There’s even reparations for England’s former colonies! (But France gets to grow larger, seems kinda unfair, admittedly those borders at the Rhine are pretty sexy)
 
I was going to go read that since it is a very nicemap, but woah, huge! ;-)

Would you mind giving a TL;DR and how Colombia in this timeline avoided being so ridden with internal conflict that it was able to stay together?
Mostly a result of an earlier end to a much less destructive Independence Wars. The OTL independence wars lasted like two decades and left Colombia devastated. This devastation exacerbated or caused most of the internal divisions. Being better off, Colombia was capable of investing in the infrastructure and development that convinced enough people that the Union was worth it.
 
I like the idea. I remember seeing the old thread for this long ago. I don’t think this is too bad, actually - besides the bit about the Mormons - we have a democratic unified Korea, united Ireland, federalized China, what seems to be peace in the Middle East, what’s not to like? There’s even reparations for England’s former colonies! (But France gets to grow larger, seems kinda unfair, admittedly those borders at the Rhine are pretty sexy)
Well, in keeping with “this is a parody of the ideal map genre”, there are certainly many elements that are actually nice (though if I really wanted to make fun of ideal maps I’d have colonies, but the point was to mostly reverse that), while there is also stuff that is either explicitly or implicitly less than ideal, ie countries having puppet states, sub Saharan Africa still being a mess, etc & then of course Croatia ceasing to exist because “lmao when I am Serb” is obviously not an actually good thing. The Korean situation was meant to be a commentary on those “Rhodesia is still around but it’s wholesome now”, so I took the opposite sort of state, instead of a right wing hellstate, a famous left wing hellstate, wanted it but then made it wholesome. Some things are a real improvement on OTL though for sure, but just as many things are cursed.
 
Okay! I have the greatest map project of your lifetime, but it's a .json file. Those can't be attached. I converted it to a .txt file. It's too big.

Help.

Next time I'm using paint.net.
 
Okay! I have the greatest map project of your lifetime, but it's a .json file. Those can't be attached. I converted it to a .txt file. It's too big.

Help.

Next time I'm using paint.net.
1. Why is it a .json file? Can you convert to an image file, .jpg, .png, etc.?
2. Try uploading to a host website like imgur.
 
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