Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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Misak-ı Millî, the six decisions made to salvage some territory by the last Ottoman Parliament in 1920, before the Treaty of Sevres.
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Hey, I am looking for data and maps about the Franco Hendaye territorial requests, I know there was much more than Morocco, West Algeria and Cameroon. Anyone has it?
I have this map saved but I don't remember who made it (I think it was made for this thread but I couldn't find it as part of a quick search) and I don't know how accurate it is. It does give a decent idea at what Franco supposedly wanted/suggested Spain to receive at that time.
EDIT: Originally made by SRegan.
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But he never claimed to make it, explicitly said someone else did, and even mentioned that it came from this very thread… Can a lack of knowledge really be punished if he didn’t personally edit his post?
Saying that what you have isn't yours but you can't properly give credit due to not remembering who the original creator was is not plagiarism.
It looks pretty accurate. I'm not sure about the bits of West Africa, but the only thing not SRegan's list that was also desired was French Catalonia.
what is a sourse of this map? I see date - 14 March 1939, but from what journal is it?
(Map courtesy of Wikipedia)
The Donations to Alexandria were a political maneuver by Cleopatra and Mark Antony conducted in 34 BC, following both the latter's abysmal failure to capture Parthia, which was economically and militarily devastating to him, and Octavian sending both 2,000 soldiers and his sister, Antony's Roman wife Octavia, basically offering him the choice to return to Rome.
Cleopatra and Antony responded with a mock Roman triumph, where they sat on golden thrones dressed as Dionysus-Osiris and Isis-Aphrodite respectively. It was at the Gymnasium of Alexandria that they made their decree: Cleopatra was crowned Queen of Kings and her son Caesarion, the child she had with Caesar, was crowned King of Kings and also Caesar's rightful heir. The kids she had with Antony were also granted territories of their own: Alexander Helios was named king of Armenia, Media and Parthia (the latter two of which they didn't even control yet); his twin sister Cleopatra Selene II got Cyrenaica and Libya; and the young Ptolemy Philadelphus was awarded Syria, Phoenicia and Cilicia. Antony naturally also planned to include all the Roman territory he'd been in control of since Caesar's death.
Needless to say, this Hellenistic eastern empire didn't last, as Rome declared war and Cleopatra and Antony's forces were brutally defeated at the Battle of Actium in 31 BC.
By accident I stumbled across a group claiming to be a Switzerland-based Kurdish government-in-exile called the United States of Kurdistan (link to their website). It advocates for a greater Kurdish state with close ties to Israel, the EU (to include a Turkey "ruled by genuinely democratic values developed in civilized society"), and the US.
These are the proposed borders for this USK.
As you can see, it'd be massive and have access to the Mediterrean, the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the Persian Gulf. I also wonder if this state advocates that the portions of Iran cut off from the metropole get annexed by neighboring states...
These are the proposed borders for this USK.
As you can see, it'd be massive and have access to the Mediterrean, the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the Persian Gulf. I also wonder if this state advocates that the portions of Iran cut off from the metropole get annexed by neighboring states...
They are ambitious, I'll give them that. AFAIK, there aren't even any Kurds in most of what they're claiming in Iran.By accident I stumbled across a group claiming to be a Switzerland-based Kurdish government-in-exile called the United States of Kurdistan (link to their website). It advocates for a greater Kurdish state with close ties to Israel, the EU (to include a Turkey "ruled by genuinely democratic values developed in civilized society"), and the US.
These are the proposed borders for this USK.
As you can see, it'd be massive and have access to the Mediterrean, the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the Persian Gulf. I also wonder if this state advocates that the portions of Iran cut off from the metropole get annexed by neighboring states...
Not only does that cut though Ahvaz(which has an Arab majority), but it dissects Iranian Azerbaijan in two.
the weird part is that they seem to know that, since they have little kurdish flag icons around the areas where there actually are kurds
Every country in the Middle East:By accident I stumbled across a group claiming to be a Switzerland-based Kurdish government-in-exile called the United States of Kurdistan (link to their website). It advocates for a greater Kurdish state with close ties to Israel, the EU (to include a Turkey "ruled by genuinely democratic values developed in civilized society"), and the US.
These are the proposed borders for this USK.
As you can see, it'd be massive and have access to the Mediterranean, the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the Persian Gulf. I also wonder if this state advocates that the portions of Iran cut off from the metropole get annexed by neighboring states...
