David Bowie wanted to make a movie of that character? Now there is a What If!
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I didn't think you'd actually use that idea, so it makes me especially happy to see her become the secondary mascot of Atari.
Although, I didn't expect a Namco home console or a Vampire Hunter D game. Those two from today's update managed to surprise me just as, if not more than the popularity of Colette Caracal beyond sex appeal.
Reading through the update reminded me of the little discussion had about the timing between Triad retaining Sega and Atari being scooped up by Virgin. Despite the decision reached, it still bounced in my head a bit, trying to think of the subtlest way it could occur without being too much, and I think I had managed it!
By 1985, as per "Big Shifts in the Entertainment Industry", CEO Charles Bluhdorn is still alive, rather that passing away in early 1983. The restructuring of the company OTL occurred under Martin S. Davis (who still becomes CEO by 1988, as per "Universal Goes Bananas"), who was the one to begin divesting secondary businesses, and diversifying and selling off non-entertainment and publishing assets. Though some developments seems inevitable (such as possibly Sega Electronics being sold to Bally Manufacturing due to the downturn in the arcade business, or stuff like Consolidated Cigar Corporation being sold off), it could be lessened/delayed enough that the OTL Sega buyout by Nakayama/Rosen/CSK (which may have even been a reaction to Sega Electronics being sold) could occur by the time Virgin's mid-1984 purchase of Atari is either rumored to happen or had just happened.
Rather than the buyout occurring, G+W instead offer Nakayama and Rosen a similar deal, but with G+W remaining majority shareholder, and not CSK taking that position. Jeffrey Rochlis, a consultant to Mattel Inc., takes the chairman position for G+W, while Nakayama becomes CEO (COO?) of Sega, and co-president with Rosen (who goes on to helm Sega of America). For appeasement's sake, due to sweeping Sega back under their noses, CSK led by Isao Okawa and the other investors involved likely get something out of the deal too, even if strictly monetary. All-around roughly preserving Sega as we may know them OTL, just with Triad behind them and not CSK, rather than having a vague continuity with pre-buyout Sega.
By 1985, as per "Big Shifts in the Entertainment Industry", CEO Charles Bluhdorn is still alive, rather that passing away in early 1983. The restructuring of the company OTL occurred under Martin S. Davis (who still becomes CEO by 1988, as per "Universal Goes Bananas"), who was the one to begin divesting secondary businesses, and diversifying and selling off non-entertainment and publishing assets. Though some developments seems inevitable (such as possibly Sega Electronics being sold to Bally Manufacturing due to the downturn in the arcade business, or stuff like Consolidated Cigar Corporation being sold off), it could be lessened/delayed enough that the OTL Sega buyout by Nakayama/Rosen/CSK (which may have even been a reaction to Sega Electronics being sold) could occur by the time Virgin's mid-1984 purchase of Atari is either rumored to happen or had just happened.
Rather than the buyout occurring, G+W instead offer Nakayama and Rosen a similar deal, but with G+W remaining majority shareholder, and not CSK taking that position. Jeffrey Rochlis, a consultant to Mattel Inc., takes the chairman position for G+W, while Nakayama becomes CEO (COO?) of Sega, and co-president with Rosen (who goes on to helm Sega of America). For appeasement's sake, due to sweeping Sega back under their noses, CSK led by Isao Okawa and the other investors involved likely get something out of the deal too, even if strictly monetary. All-around roughly preserving Sega as we may know them OTL, just with Triad behind them and not CSK, rather than having a vague continuity with pre-buyout Sega.
I was thinking about edutainment and I think Galactic Golf will probable be big in science labs, maybe later an added section where players can set their own gravity. Maybe it's a mini golf thing so players can insert obstacles.
I wonder if Professor von Drake and Dr. Honeydew could partner up for other educational stuff.
Once good video becomes a thing maybe Disney can draw on their library of educational shorts, design some edutainment games around them.
I wonder if Professor von Drake and Dr. Honeydew could partner up for other educational stuff.
Once good video becomes a thing maybe Disney can draw on their library of educational shorts, design some edutainment games around them.
That's interesting. I'll kick around some ideas.I think a post about an official RATCON at EPCOT where people (i.e. the readers) can display their hacks for prizes could certainly be done. Not to mention that it'd be a good opportunity for Disney to display their own products like MICKEY 2.0 or promote their own technical developments like CGI, Animatronics, and etc. for their upcoming movies. Plus, I could totally see Disney be inspired to sell custom computer parts or peripherals from their major IPs to capitalize on the hacking craze.
As for the name itself, Disney execs might hate the name but it's good to know where your roots came from (nerds and geeks who tweaked computers for fun). In fact, this might be unrealistic, but maybe RATCON could evolve to become the D23 of the 90s with the anointed blessing of Jim Henson, serving not only as a technical convention but a pop culture one for Disney fans too.
D23 (Disney) - Wikipedia
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Oh btw, why not add a robotics competition to the mix as well?
I'll have to see what the world looks like in 1999 in this timeline first!
I'd find it funny, but I'm a sick bastard. I agree with PM here, rather in poor taste even for Mel Brooks. Something like this as a late night special by Parker and Stone could work.
The Grrl Power movement was a grassroots thing in the 1990s, beginning with Bikini Kill and the Riot Grrl music scene, not something that I'm making up. Strangely enough the Spice Girls kind of Astroturfed it in our timeline, turning it into more of a "we girls should stick together" thing than a "kick down the doors and take a hammer to the glass ceiling" thing like the Riot Grrls preferred, but it didn't seem to dampen the grassroots enthusiasm even today.
And yea, I'm an engineer myself. Not a very accepting field for women even today, but significantly better today than it was in the '80s-'00s. Biomedical Engineering, where I am now, is a lot more accepting on average, probably because of existing social acceptance for women in medicine ("caregiver" stereotypes and all that), and I can tell anyone who'll listen that, yea, women kick ass at engineering.
On the source there (Dr. Sparks' book), keep in mind that's a retrospective looking back at events in hindsight, not an on-the-ground reporting of "current events", so there's a lot of nostalgic navel gazing going on here. Note that Heather and Jeri would never refer to themselves by the label, and "Tech Grrls" is not a movement, but academia conflating a social movement with a concurrent rise in female interest in technology after the fact and coining a label that will catch the eyes on a bookshelf at the airport.
And as with all posts, not everything you read can be assumed to be Absolute Truth.
Wow. How bizarre. Who'd play Oktobria now?
I thought it was a great idea, so thank you. And yea, Colette will be a "furry icon", no question, though Sega is attempting to push the "action girl" thing with her and not trying to deliberately sexualize her like with certain other franchises (*cough* Lola Bunny *cough*).
All awesome ideas! PM'ed you.
Those are great ideas. In fact, I'm just going to say that there's a Disney Channel Science Show hosted by the two of them (both Muppets). I just need a good name for it... Shocking Science with Disney?
Ludwig and Honeydew's Shocking Science: Also Starring Beaker.
I think you can guess where I'm heading by involving Beaker in this show.
How about this: the show returns Bunson to his TMS season one roots and have him be as much of a victim of slapstick as Beaker is, though he still tries to at least maintain his dignity.
And Ludwig is enjoying the mayhem with sheer sociopathic glee.
On the one hand, I was going by the standards of Beaker's role in the late-80's IOTL, meaning that he would still be Bunsen's guinea pig.
On the other hand, I LOOOOOVVVEEEE this! These two additions are absolutely beautiful!
I can see a chain reaction where Beaker gets electrocuted, the others laugh, then Dr. H. gets zapped and Beaker and Prof. L. laugh, then Prof. L. gets zapped and the other two laugh, and then the cycle repeats itself over and over as the credits roll.
Now this is a crossover that I can get behind. Them being Muppets makes this even better.
As for the name....maybe it could be:
Disney's Wacky Science with Dr. Von Drake and Professor Honeydew, or just Disney's Wacky Science.
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While the show could've been entirely slapstick comedy for all three characters, integrating an educational aspect just totally brings this to the next level. You'll learn something new each episode while you're laughing or immersed into the content, which is probably the best part about this show.
Not to mention, it'd be so easy for the writers to add referential humor towards Disney like adding a segment on Adventures Thru Inner Space, all of the corporate sponsorships (especially Monsanto), EPCOT, and etc. or even just simple fourth wall breaks. Love it!
Maybe the Adventures Thru Inner Space segment could be introduced in an episode titled Honeydew, I Shrunk the Beak, in which Von Drake accidentally shrinks Beaker at a gradual speed, and Bunsen has to save his loyal assistant?
This is why I have a particular fondness for this thread, virtually everything posted as 'canon' is all in-universe media, which makes everything an Unreliable Narrator you have to interpret and fill in the gaps yourself. It's a great stylistic feature I'm totally stealing for my own projects.
Yeah, all while a comedic version of Miracles from Molecules is playing, hahahaha.
Which is of course exactly why I did it that way, and not just as an excuse/cover for any plot holes or inconsistencies or gross errors I inadvertently inject into the TL.
While I loved that Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego was on PBS the fact that it could have been a Disney production is interesting. I love the idea that Henson both supporting the show being on PBS and helping with the production.
I was also taken aback by this revelation, and seeing Jim Henson come back to PBS after decades of leaving Sesame Street behind, even if he won't be helping as much as he did for that show, would be relatively newsworthy in my book.
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