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This is a very basic sort of analogue idea I had in my head for a while now. Think of it as an alt-American Civil War where the North secedes instead of the South creating a sort of "Consecrated States of America" if you will. They take 11 free states just as the secessionists took 11 slave states with them. This is the situation as of 1861. The situation here is much more even than in the Civil War of OTL. This TTL Union (comparing it to the Confederate States of OTL) is much stronger in terms of industrial and resource capability due to it being basically a massively enlarged version of it as well as the total population of the Union being around 17.7 million against the Consecrated States's 13.7 million.

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And here is the aftermath of the war in 1864. My basic thinking was that The Consecrated States by virtue of their secession being in large part opposing slavery would be a more palatable nation for the UK to support secession wise and this would ultimately result in them intervening in the civil war on their behalf causing a quick end to the war and "negotiations" to begin. However, the Union has still managed to wrest Michigan and Ohio from the Consecrated States and in the Peace managed to carve out half of Pennsylvania, primarily the western portion and naming the new state as "Westsylvania"(largely an analogue to Virginia/West Virginia). The British did not protest this as it would weaken the Consecrated States enough for them to be more reliable of a British dependency.
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As for the future of this America, While the South now has the grip on the nation's zeitgeist rather than New England and the Mid-Atlantic, I don't think this would cause America to go full-Decades of Darkness . For one thing this rump US still has a sizable contingent of free states(11) to slave states(15). That being said the center of gravity certainly has shifted southwards with the only counterbalance being the Midwest and West.
Oh fer goodness sakes! The Upper Mississippi states side with the south?!?
 
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Just a bit of fun. So, this is a map of North America and Australia, but the territories that have the name of a country, a place in said country or a person in said country go to that country, example, British Columbia goes to the UK, Louisiana goes to the French as its named after one of their kings, the pale brown in the US is named after tribes.
I don't think there was a tribe called Tennessee, but rather a village. Alabama, Missouri, and Utah are all named directly or indirectly for indigenous peoples. Also, while Delaware is named for a former governor of Virginia, the Lenape have long been referred to as the Delaware people. Oklahoma gets its name from Choctaw (?) words meaning "Red Man", so it too is indirectly named for indigenous peoples.
 
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Just a bit of fun. So, this is a map of North America and Australia, but the territories that have the name of a country, a place in said country or a person in said country go to that country, example, British Columbia goes to the UK, Louisiana goes to the French as its named after one of their kings, the pale brown in the US is named after tribes.
Texas didn't go to the Caddo? It's an Anglicization of a Hispanization of the Caddo name for their confederacy
 

Looks like it! Man, quite forgot about it: 12 years is a stretch. It's interesting what I had forgotten and I wonder what details I had wrong or changed from the original. (I still have quite a few hand-written pages of descriptions of AH scenarios from back then or earlier. There are elements of the old map which contradict what I was working from: I wonder if my writeup was inaccurate or if in that earlier map I decided to diverge more from the scenario as written?)
 
Inspired by B_Munro's Reign of the Superpowers, I have created another ASB map with a different set of powers. I do not exactly followed the previous creations' profiles but here's the border sources:
- Great Britain from B_Munro's The Reign of George VI, 1900-1925
- Brazil from Isaac Beach and CyberPhoenix001's Brazilwank
- Sultanate of Egypt from Magnysovich's Teutonic Empire
- Sikh Empire from wildviper121's The Sikh Empire (Sarkar-i Khalsa), 1720-1912
- Chinese Tsarat from Comte de Dordogne's The Chinese Tsarat under Romanov rule
- The Netherlands and Dai Viet from B_Munro's Odd Superpowers

Obviously this map is also heavily Code Geass-ish, as you can see from the names. With that said, all of this started when Napoleonic France won the Battle of Trafalgar and successfully invaded the British Isles after that. Subsequent battles drove the British and the Portuguese off their motherlands and to settle down in the New World, though the British had to fight a bitter war to get rid of the US. In Europe, Napoleon started his conquest in Russia, captured Saint Petersburg and pursued the fleeing Romanovs up to the Urals. In the aftermath, European Russia was divided into 3 smaller nations, including a revived Novgorod Republic. The Ottomans would be Napoleon's next target, but before he moved in the Balkan, Mehmed Ali Pasha approached the Emperor and made a deal to divide the Turks' realm together. Meanwhile, the sizable Russian remnants approached the Chinese border at the time the Qing government was busy suppressing the Eight Trigrams Rebellion, and that was the start of the transition from Qing to Jirjak. The influx of Han refugees from the North and the vassalization of Souther China (Later Ming dynasty) bolstered Emperor Minh Mang to enter an alliance with Burma to destroy Siam once and for all. However, after Siam was down, the alliance now had to witness the rise of the Sikhs to the West and an encroaching Dutch Empire-in-Exile to the South.

P/S: I didn't calculate the GDP numbers seriously so please just take it for fun. Also this is the first time I tried out a different water color, it works for most except the French and the Swedish. :frown:

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Inspired by B_Munro's Reign of the Superpowers, I have created another ASB map with a different set of powers. I do not exactly followed the previous creations' profiles but here's the border sources:
- Great Britain from B_Munro's The Reign of George VI, 1900-1925
- Brazil from Isaac Beach and CyberPhoenix001's Brazilwank
- Sultanate of Egypt from Magnysovich's Teutonic Empire
- Sikh Empire from wildviper121's The Sikh Empire (Sarkar-i Khalsa), 1720-1912
- Chinese Tsarat from Comte de Dordogne's The Chinese Tsarat under Romanov rule
- The Netherlands and Dai Viet from B_Munro's Odd Superpowers

Obviously this map is also heavily Code Geass-ish, as you can see from the names. With that said, all of this started when Napoleonic France won the Battle of Trafalgar and successfully invaded the British Isles after that. Subsequent battles drove the British and the Portuguese off their motherlands and to settle down in the New World, though the British had to fight a bitter war to get rid of the US. In Europe, Napoleon started his conquest in Russia, captured Saint Petersburg and pursued the fleeing Romanovs up to the Urals. In the aftermath, European Russia was divided into 3 smaller nations, including a revived Novgorod Republic. The Ottomans would be Napoleon's next target, but before he moved in the Balkan, Mehmed Ali Pasha approached the Emperor and made a deal to divide the Turks' realm together. Meanwhile, the sizable Russian remnants approached the Chinese border at the time the Qing government was busy suppressing the Eight Trigrams Rebellion, and that was the start of the transition from Qing to Jirjak. The influx of Han refugees from the North and the vassalization of Souther China (Later Ming dynasty) bolstered Emperor Minh Mang to enter an alliance with Burma to destroy Siam once and for all. However, after Siam was down, the alliance now had to witness the rise of the Sikhs to the West and an encroaching Dutch Empire-in-Exile to the South.

P/S: I didn't calculate the GDP numbers seriously so please just take it for fun. Also this is the first time I tried out a different water color, it works for most except the French and the Swedish. :frown:

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It's funny that not long ago I had the idea of a Chinese Tsarate ruled by the Romanovs for the MOTF 230.
In this universe Japan is called "Площ 11" ? 🤔
 
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It's funny that not long ago I had the idea of a Chinese Tsarate ruled by the Romanovs for the MOTF 230.
In this universe Japan is called "Площ 11" ? 🤔
This one is completely based on your creation as I quoted in the list of inspiration sources :biggrin:. It's a very interesting idea!

Japan in this universe is still largely independent, at least to a greater extent compared to their Korean neighbor, though the appointment of the next Shogun has to be approved by the Tsar.
 
This one is completely based on your creation as I quoted in the list of inspiration sources :biggrin:. It's a very interesting idea!

Japan in this universe is still largely independent, at least to a greater extent compared to their Korean neighbor, though the appointment of the next Shogun has to be approved by the Tsar.
Oh! I didn't see my name!
Good work otherwise.
 
The stuff about etymology of state names etc and discussion it has brought up, is interesting. So, on a related note, I'm thinking of starting a old/New isot project. For example in the first map I probably will do Jersey and New Jersey. If I feel competent enough to continue (mapping is pretty difficult imo) follow-up maps would also have the [Place] / New [Place] format. Any thoughts, yall?
 
The stuff about etymology of state names etc and discussion it has brought up, is interesting. So, on a related note, I'm thinking of starting a old/New isot project. For example in the first map I probably will do Jersey and New Jersey. If I feel competent enough to continue (mapping is pretty difficult imo) follow-up maps would also have the [Place] / New [Place] format. Any thoughts, yall?
New York state and Yorkshire?

Scotland and Nova Scotia?

Brunswick and New Brunswick?

New Spain and regular Spain?

New France and regular France?
 
New York state and Yorkshire?

Scotland and Nova Scotia?

Brunswick and New Brunswick?

New Spain and regular Spain?

New France and regular France?
Also

New Granada, New England, New Britain, New Ireland, New Hannover, New Hampshire, New Jersey...

Furthermore, some subdivisions of the Viceroyalty of New Spain were also "New":
- New Navarre
- New Philippines
- New Biscay
- New Extremadura
- New León
- New Santander
 
The stuff about etymology of state names etc and discussion it has brought up, is interesting. So, on a related note, I'm thinking of starting a old/New isot project. For example in the first map I probably will do Jersey and New Jersey. If I feel competent enough to continue (mapping is pretty difficult imo) follow-up maps would also have the [Place] / New [Place] format. Any thoughts, yall?
My main question is what granularity you'll be doing. For example, there's a town in suburban New York called New Rochelle, named after La Rochelle, a large town/small city in Western France (New Rochelle was founded by Huguenot refugees from La Rochelle). Or will you limit yourself to provinces and countries?
 
Courtesy of u/Alagremm from Reddit, the Iroquois Principality of Niagara: a Native American microstate located on OTL Grand Island. The artist almost solely specialises in microstates of all kinds; this map is only one of dozens that they have created.
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“Your race's descent has only worsened since your last visit, tourist. You have no right to enter this land, just as your disgraced ancestors never had. But unlike you, we have preserved our ancestors’ ways and kept true to our nature – the deceit of the Occidental haplogroup is undone. You on the other hand have fallen to the same poisons your predecessors meant to destroy us with. The influence of the firewater race is waning.

Once you are gone, we will build a museum for you. The walls will be lined with bottles of firewater – your beloved beverage. Inside, we will store the odes to hubris that you call “pop-culture” and your cheap plastics.”

-Mohawk Guard, speaking to an American tourist at the Eastern Door Bridge.

The Iroquois or Haudenosaunee Confederacy’s founding is shrouded in ancient legend, passed on from generation to generation, speaking of the time the tribes were united through the Great Law of Peace as preached by the Great Peacemaker, a divinely inspired prophet. His revelations brought peace to the Haudenosaunee, leading them to a convocation where they planted a Tree of Peace and proclaimed the Great Binding Law of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy. For centuries, the Confederacy remained a great power in North America, rivaling British and French settlers and masterfully playing them against one another. The Confederacy remained united until the American Revolution, when the Haudenosaunee kept its treaty promises to the British Crown and assisted them against the American revolutionaries. After their defeat, the British ceded Haudenosaunee territory without bringing their allies to the negotiating table, leading the Six Nations to abandon their lands. During this time, the Haudenosaunee become demoralized as more of their land was sold to white settlers, while disease, alcoholism and broken families ravaged the people. The United States and the Haudenosaunee signed treaty after treaty, each surrendering more of their historic homeland to the settlers, selling their lands for alcohol which drove them further to ruination.

Among many other Haudenosaunee plagued by this was a Seneca named Handsome Lake, who witnessed his people fall further and further into depravity and misery throughout his long life. In 1799, after a period of illness due to many years of excessive alcoholism, Handsome Lake had the visions that gave him the power to become a prophet. In his vision, he was warned by three spiritual messengers who presented him with ideals that he must enforce among his people. Shortly after Handsome Lake's first vision, he ceased drinking alcohol and when he regained his health, he preached against drunkenness and other evil practices. His teachings were encoded in wampum and spread through the Six Nations as Gaihwi:io, the Good Message. The faith combined traditional Haudenosaunee religious beliefs with a revised code meant to revive traditional consciousness to the Haudenosaunee after a long period of cultural disintegration.

Handsome Lake’s brother Cornplanter was a chief of the Seneca and one of the heads of the Confederacy during the Revolutionary War. While he wished for the Haudenosaunee to remain neutral, he reluctantly led his people against the Americans along with other chiefs. After the war he became a noted diplomat, meeting George Washington on several occasions requesting kinder treatment of his people, but to no avail. The British on their part were interested in the creation of an Indian buffer state separating British and American territories and once the War of 1812 broke out proceeded to promise Haudenosaunee an independent land in return for their assistance in the war. Despite his brother’s warnings, Cornplanter once more took the side of the British, as the other Nations united in a desperate attempt to take back their land – and lost his life in the war, leaving his brother as the Seneca chief. But as the war turned to disaster, the British were quick to forsake their allies and sign the Treaty of Ghent reneging on their promises. As peace with America remained uncertain, the British decided to throw a bone to the Iroquois to ensure their loyalty. What was then known as Grand Island on the Niagara River was turned over to Handsome Lake – a pacifist leader the British perceived as meek and unlikely to turn against them – and granted to him as a principality. The prophet called the surviving chiefs of the Confederacy to the island for a year of mourning - but it was also there that the Tree of Peace was planted anew, and the Great Fire was once more lit by the Grand Council of the Six Nations.

Shortly before his death in 1815 the Seneca were entrusted by Handsome Lake to carry on his work and spread Gaihwi:io among the Six Nations – but the true heir to his legacy was on his way to Niagara as he lay dying. Brother of the famed Tecumseh and a prophet to the Shawnee, Tenskwatawa was a man whose life greatly resembled the Seneca Prophet’s. Six years after Handsome Lake’s own visions, Tenskwatawa who too was an alcoholic, fell into a stupor so deep that he was believed dead – before awakening and proclaiming a revelation of an urgent need for rejection of the white man’s ways and purification of the people. His brother traveled constantly, spreading his message and eclipsing Tenskwatawa in prominence. He proclaimed that Native Americans owned their lands in common, and urged tribes not cede more territory unless all agreed – assembling a grand confederacy around his military prowess and his brother’s faith. Tecumseh too took part in the War of 1812 on the side of the British and was killed in battle in 1813, leading his confederacy to collapse – but turning him into a legend. Tenskwatawa fled into the wilderness and was believed dead before he and his band of followers arrived in Niagara in 1816, shortly after Handsome Lake’s death. Tenskwatawa fell on his knees before Handsome Lake’s mound and prayed for three days and three nights before proclaiming Handsome Lake to be the prophet he was sent to serve. His arrival to Niagara became a seminal point in the history of Gaihwi:io, as it made a faith of the Haudenosaunee into a faith uniting countless indigenous people: from his own Shawnee and Algonquian to the Cherokee, Sioux, Muskogee, Seminole, Dené, and others, with preachers from the misty shores of Niagara trekking across the continent, spreading Gaihwi:io. In Western historiography Tenskwatawa has been compared to Apostle Paul, spreading a Good Message intended for a certain people among the nations of the world: the influence of Tenskwatawa’s work is still felt today, as Gaihwi:io has become the largest religion among Native Americans and an inspiration for other faiths. In particular, the Mormons consider Handsome Lake’s message to have been divinely inspired due to its similarity to the revelations experienced by Joseph Smith in the 1820’s, leading to the LDS Church considering Niagarans to be the descendants of the Lamanite people from the Book of Mormon.

While the British meant to hide the Haudenosaunee away on a miniscule island, the sovereignty of Niagara made it into a locus of indigenous culture, and Niagarans made great efforts to promote the Gaihwi:io by any means necessary. Once word of Sequoyah’s invention of the Cherokee syllabary reached Niagara, the principality sent messengers asking to be taught this inspired written word. While the famed polymath himself never set foot in the principality, some of his students reached Niagara, where they founded what would eventually be known as the School of Sequoyah and adapted their teacher’s script for Iroquois languages, helping further spread Gaihwi:io among indigenous peoples.

While Canada recognized the principality’s sovereignty, United States did not, considering Grand Island a part of Ontario province. This changed when the adjacent Navy Island was proposed to be the headquarters of the United Nations by an international committee in 1945. Navy Island was considered to be an ideal location as it lay on the boundary between three peaceful countries. While the proposal was ultimately turned down in favor of the current UN headquarters in New York City, the negotiating processes involved in the proposal laid ground for the first diplomatic talks between Washington and Niagara, leading to the principality’s recognition in 1947 and an invitation to join the UN – which was ignored until 1963, due to Niagara’s staunch refusal to recognize Roanoke, a self-proclaimed indigenous state.

The legal status of the principality itself is a matter of controversy. While both Canadian and American governments consider Niagara to be an Iroquois nation-state, the view if not shared by the Haudenosaunee who consider the sovereignty of the Six Nations to be extraterritorial and emphasize the deep link between the Haudenosaunee and the land. As such, they see Niagara as a sovereign territory that belongs to one of the Six Nations, and a holy site of the Gaihwi:io, recognizing the religion’s role in providing a meeting place for the Grand Council. To complicate things further, the principality issues Haudenosaunee passports on behalf of the Six Nations – and while Niagara’s population is around 40,000, over 100,000 Haudenosaunee possess Niagaran citizenship, presented as a legal document of the Confederacy itself.

Entry to the island is explicitly forbidden to all non-indigenous people, except for foreign diplomatic missions and foreign heads of state. As such, entry is limited to the Haudenosaunee and indigenous adherents of Gaihwi:io, who arrive twice a year to hear the Good Message proclaimed: at the Midwinter Thanksgiving in February and again at the Six Nations meeting in September, when the population of the island triples as Haudenosaunee and Gaihwi:io pilgrims arrive to the convocation, turning the tranquil forest-covered island into a bustling city.
 
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