Oh I see, doubt they’d need the dispensation for that reason. Though they would need it just to show they have God’s approval or whatever.Edward I
Oh I see, doubt they’d need the dispensation for that reason. Though they would need it just to show they have God’s approval or whatever.Edward I
I think they could get one just to be on the safe side of thingsOh I see, doubt they’d need the dispensation for that reason. Though they would need it just to show they have God’s approval or whatever.
Yeah. More as the Pope’s approval, rather than him “allowing” the marriage.I think they could get one just to be on the safe side of things
Agreed, then whenever somebody mentions morganatic law or something he can just shuve the dispensation in their face.I think they could get one just to be on the safe side of things
Charles can do whatever he want with his marriage as nobody can force his wedding to NOT be fully legitimateAgreed, then whenever somebody mentions morganatic law or something he can just shuve the dispensation in their face.
I suppose, but it’d be nice to have just for good measure.Charles can do whatever he want with his marriage as nobody can force his wedding to NOT be fully legitimate
I understand, just thought it would be interesting for Anne to reply that to her disbelieving father.No need for any dispensation. Betrothals were made and broken quite often in that period
I don't know yet if any Boleyns besides Anne are leaving England. We'll see...Just read through this and definitely like it so far.
With the Boleyn family, hopefully they can get out in time because this is going to turn ugly real fast. George was always said to be pretty intelligent so I can already guess he’s looking for a way out but I’m sure that Anne can get a prestigious position with Charles as he had with Henry if not better.
Yes but the objective is it not being a morganatic marriageYeah morganatic marriages are a matter of custom not religious law so the pope wouldn’t have a say in that- it’s all Charles. Ironically, I think they have a far enough away common ancestor they wouldn’t need a papal dispensation but likely a blessing of their marriage and a reassertion of the primacy of a marriage witnessed by the church over a secular betrothal contract- there’s not even a marriage by proxy to get around!
George would go - he and Anne were close growing up and into their 20s - and Mary would take the first chance to go "fuck this shit, I'm out!" as soon as she could if OTL is any indication.I don't know yet if any Boleyns besides Anne are leaving England. We'll see...
Not sure that he would be welcome. The iberians were rather territorials and did not like Charles bringing strangers to important posts. The brother of a english woman who married the king of spain rather than a proper iberian infanta? No, I don't think George would be a sucess.I'm sure George could find himself a good position in Spain.. Perhaps as say, Viceroy of Sardinia or Catalonia, as well as finding a local noblewoman to marry..
True enough, but if he proves himself competent he'd be preferable to some old BurgundianNot sure that he would be welcome. The iberians were rather territorials and did not like Charles bringing strangers to important posts. The brother of a english woman who married the king of spain rather than a proper iberian infanta? No, I don't think George would be a sucess.
He would be at the level of the Germans/Burgundians of Charles‘ entourage and, once he will become uncle of Charles’ heir, he will be an highly desirable son-in-law for most of the Spanish noblesNot sure that he would be welcome. The iberians were rather territorials and did not like Charles bringing strangers to important posts. The brother of a english woman who married the king of spain rather than a proper iberian infanta? No, I don't think George would be a sucess.