The New Order: Last Days of Europe - An Axis Victory Cold War Mod for HoIIV
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Her objective is not only to end German hegemoney in europe, but also to crush fascism, so Rodzaevsk is a no, ESPECIALLY since he uses slave labour.
On the far right I can see she supporting Matkovsky and Shafarevich, maybe also Gumilyov (this one might be a stretch), but not a open fascist.
brooklyn99
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Considering that Kirkpatrick, as well as Jackson and McNamara are Cold War Hawks, they would be open to backing up the more morally lacking Russias i.e. Yagoda, Bunyachenko, Matkovsky, Shafarevich etc, since their conflict with the Germans will be a major avenue to undermining a rival superpower of the US. Even if they themselves were to not think highly of such unifiers, supporting them in WRW2 can be seen as a means to the end of messing with Germany.
I see Kirkpatrick aiding Rodzaevsky as unlikely since, if nothing else, his nation is closely affiliated with the Co-Prosperity Sphere and he is Japan's client.
As for the other 1972 Presidents. McGovern could be hesitant in involving himself much in WRW2, since he wants to dismantle the Military-Industrial complex, which would be buoyed by the US aiding one side in whatever way. He might seek to mediate a ceasefire/peace between both sides, and his pacifistic inclinations could lead to the conflict being a hot-button issue that could affect the 1976 election. Yockey would support the Nazis because Slavs bad, though may be uninvolved altogether if the GO4 triumphs. Hall could back those Communist unifiers that he meshes ideologically well with. Otherwise, he may not involve himself much.
I see Kirkpatrick aiding Rodzaevsky as unlikely since, if nothing else, his nation is closely affiliated with the Co-Prosperity Sphere and he is Japan's client.
As for the other 1972 Presidents. McGovern could be hesitant in involving himself much in WRW2, since he wants to dismantle the Military-Industrial complex, which would be buoyed by the US aiding one side in whatever way. He might seek to mediate a ceasefire/peace between both sides, and his pacifistic inclinations could lead to the conflict being a hot-button issue that could affect the 1976 election. Yockey would support the Nazis because Slavs bad, though may be uninvolved altogether if the GO4 triumphs. Hall could back those Communist unifiers that he meshes ideologically well with. Otherwise, he may not involve himself much.
chankljp
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From my understanding, the biggest difference between Kirkpatrick's and McNamara's brand of hawkishness is that the former is focused on destroying fascism and America's enemies in the form of Nazi German and Imperial Japan at all cost; While the latter is focused on creating and maintaining an American hegemony centered around US national interest at all cost.
Meaning that when a Russia unified under Shafarevich sends a delegation to Washington asking for aid and support, Kirkpatrick will ask 'Are you going to kill the Nazis? If yes, here, take a bunch of weapons and funding.'; While McNamara will be focused on putting Russia, no matter under the rule of whoever, under American political, economic, and military orbit.
For the Europeanists I can see various French Neo-Nazis we know today like:
- Pierre Sidos (Founder of the Radical Neo-Fascist Groups - Jeune Nation and L'Œuvre Française)
- Mark Frederikson (Founder of the Neo-Nazi Movement - Federation of National and European Action)
- Francois Duprat (Leader of the Front Nationale's Extremist Branch - Groups Nationalistes Revolutionaries)
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brooklyn99
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Thinking about what kind of bounce-off content that the French State could have with Free France. If Pinay's réformistes take governance and does away with Fascism, returning France to it's pre-1940 democratic system, would De Gaulle and his followers still have the motivation to bother continuing the charade of being the "true" France from their small, undeveloped fiefdom in West Africa? After all, I don't see the point in continuing the "Free France" schtick when the homeland has come to re-embrace democratic and Liberal principles, maybe it depends on whether or not Pinay's France would re-join the Pakt? (though I think such an option would only be considered with Speer's Germany).
I think a lot depends on how Pinay's France acts towards Free France. If their attitude is "submit to us", then DeGaulle will probably try to stick it out. If their attitude is "come home, brother", then I think he'd accept. Especially if they offer him a position in the government (I'm thinking Minister of Defense).
chankljp
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The final focus on the starting tree: 'Another Quiet year'France content for TNO:
Yeah.... About 1962 being 'quiet'....
Something quite sad about Pierre Sidos is that he was still alive last year, and someone from the Reddit had infiltrated his party a few years before and kept contact, thus he volunteered to call him and show Tno, record the whole thing and add English subtitles....
... And then BOOM, Sidos died two weeks later.
... And then BOOM, Sidos died two weeks later.
That’s a shame, his reaction to his TNO counterpart would’ve been hilarious.
A handful.
Elizabeth II, Rurik II minister of economics, Andreas Meyer-landrut, the ultranat Palestine leader, Gorbachev, etc.
Wait, do you have evidence of this? Because this sounds funny and I am dying to hear how Sidos reacted to TNO.
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