The Forge of Weyland

"Fortress Amsterdam"?

The US papers would love that story....
It is an Unesco World Heritage Site

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The Vickers K, or VGO, was actually based on the Vickers-Berthier that was in competition with the Bren for the role of British Light Machine Gun (It was actually winning the earlier trials. The V-B was adopted by the Indian Army instead of the Bren. So the Vickers K could probably fulfill the role of light machine gun just fine, though it would probably be better if it were slowed down. And a belt or magazine feed would be appreciated. Still, it is an attractive option if you can get a hold of them. Especially since the RAF had decided to replace the Vickers K with the Browning wherever possible (They found the job of switching drums took too long).
Oh I know. I just meant look-wise, and by that I basically meant the giant Pan.
 
When considering a longer period well depends what you mean by long. With a longer European war its difficult to see how that works in Germany's favour. They really do need to win a few weeks at the outside and with the panzerwaffe otherwise they end up in an artillery war vs people with twice as many artillery pieces and much more productive capacity.

At the moment there is no lend lease its cash and carry and limited US productive capacity outside aircraft which, in the case of a long war will be substituted by British or French production. Lend lease is probably conditional on the Fall of France but in any event has about an 18 month lead time. At a guess the Dutch will progressively rearm with with a mix of anglo french kit with very little from the US possible for nearly a year.

And this is the Unicorn rainbow whatever butterfly. No Fall of France no Two Ocean Navy Act no US industrialization coming online in 42 - on the other hand you get a much better anglo french mobilisation and probably no nasty letters from the US to Japan.

Whether that means Fortress Holland holds out is another issue but as long as there is a war in Europe the Free Dutch wont be going to the DEI.

Vickers K don't forget is needed by the RAF OL until 43 so any used by other arms will have fallen of the back of a Battle thats already crashed
 
I think france should still fall since the pod isnt big enough , altough it should take longer and the fighting should be alot harder but i might be wrong.
 
When considering a longer period well depends what you mean by long. With a longer European war its difficult to see how that works in Germany's favour. They really do need to win a few weeks at the outside and with the panzerwaffe otherwise they end up in an artillery war vs people with twice as many artillery pieces and much more productive capacity.
The Germans really don't want an artillery war. They're almost out of copper for driving bands.
 
@Astrodragon Thanks for the update.
So Battle of Gembloux goes like OTL, with British reinforcements this time?
Gembloux very similar to OTL, although the French recovered more damaged tanks.
The break in the line occurred after; in OTL, it started a general withdrawal, this time with British help accepted the breach has been stoppered
 
Gembloux very similar to OTL, although the French recovered more damaged tanks.
The break in the line occurred after; in OTL, it started a general withdrawal, this time with British help accepted the breach has been stoppered
... which may not turn out in the Allies' favour, if it keeps 1st Army and the BEF further North for longer while things are falling apart to the South.

The French have one shot at sealing the breach west of Sedan, with 7th army (1 DLM, 1st Armoured and 3 motorised infantry divisions) coming down from the North and 3 DCR plus support counterattacking from the South. If they fail - against elements of 7 Panzer divisions plus support currently crossing the river - something like the OTL breakout is extremely likely as the French have no mobile reserve left. At best what's left of 7th army gets to play suicide roadblock as the Allied forces in Belgium withdraw South with all haste.

OTOH, if the French succeed in containing the Meuse bridgeheads the German plan has basically failed, and their elite forces are now stuck in an awkward salient with poor supply lines.

I also note that the German infantry has had its first encounter with HE-firing British infantry tanks and not really enjoyed the experience.
 
The French have one shot at sealing the breach west of Sedan, with 7th army (1 DLM, 1st Armoured and 3 motorised infantry divisions) coming down from the North and 3 DCR plus support counterattacking from the South. If they fail - against elements of 7 Panzer divisions plus support currently crossing the river - something like the OTL breakout is extremely likely as the French have no mobile reserve left. At best what's left of 7th army gets to play suicide roadblock as the Allied forces in Belgium withdraw South with all haste.
There is also the 1st DCR from the north (in Belgium) and the 2nd DCR that in OTL May 16th fought in Saint-Quentin.
 
Not Really at this point the US pubic wasn't very supportive of doing anything more then selling things to the allies. Even after another year in October 1941 extending the draft for example passed by a single vote. Even if the US got involved they just don't have any major forces to send.
 
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