Crusader Kings III

I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion yet. For me the lack of music and the modern aesthetic make CK3 less appealing, aside from the content issues.
It just doesn’t work for me. I don’t really care about music but the vibes I get from CK3 make if feel more like Civ 6 and less of a medieval simulator.
 
TBH CK3 just lacks depth right now. It needs serious revamping and expansion for, among other things: bureaucratic governments, merchant republics, the catholic Church, nomads, economy/trade/buildings.... basically everything other than the role-playing elements needs more depth IMO.

I'm also not a fan of the new barony setup.
 
What are your problems with it?
Mainly that it makes the city/temple/castle setup even more glaringly inadequate. In reality cities, castles, and cathedrals were often mixed together and had competing rights and obligations- I'd rather have a single generic holding, with individual rights granted per holding, and the ability to interact simultaneously with eg the Mayor of Paris and bishop of Notre Dame as vassals, while also allowing for the conflict between the burgers in Northern Italy and the church and nobility. Put another way why isn't Italy carpeted with cities everywhere- cities which would variously be held by bishops, local aristocrats, or republican communes throughout the period.

I want to interact with the middle ages as a society, not just as a dynastic RPG.
 
Played for the first time the other day as Munster in 1066, on the tutorial. I'm hoping intrigue will be easier to grasp than CK2 and things won't degenerate into full blown Revolution by the working masses.

I found playing as the Seljuks difficult on CK2 because of too many rebellious vassals; now I am aware that, when at war with the Byzantines [as Alp Asan] there's no need to conquer the whole Empire, just the provinces that are part of your war goal. I had hoped to have a crack at overthrowing the Abbasids, but said vassals put an end to that plan.
 
With 867 I am preparing Gaelic revenge. I am about to unify Ireland 20 years into the game and then reconquer Wales, Scotland, England and then attack France.
 
What does anyone think about a Wars of the Roses start date? I think it would be awesome to play as the Lancastrians or Yorkists!
 
What does anyone think about a Wars of the Roses start date? I think it would be awesome to play as the Lancastrians or Yorkists!
That's an EU IV thing, not Crusader Kings. It's an event that takes place in the 15th or 16th century if you have a succession crisis as England.
 
That's an EU IV thing, not Crusader Kings. It's an event that takes place in the 15th or 16th century if you have a succession crisis as England.
I know but it'd be cool if they added it! Especially because of all the RP you could do (which you can't in EU4)
 
I like the new barony/province system, but the AI builds way too many castles. I end up trying to bumrush high-barony provinces early, since holdings can't be destroyed once built AFAIK, and castles are less lucrative than cities
 
In general I think they need to make EU4 more like CK2. The absence of dynastic trees in EU4 is absurd given the time period it is set in.
Or maybe they could make a new game which is a mix of CK2 and EU4? Maybe call it Renaissance (best title I can come up with), and have in game time stretch from 1300 to sometime in the 1600s, maybe going as far to the 1700s?
 
In general I think they need to make EU4 more like CK2. The absence of dynastic trees in EU4 is absurd given the time period it is set in.
Definitely, and the fact that you are unable to reliably pick who you're consort is is ridiculous.. Plus one I miraculously had a 60 year old Queen Regnant of France (they need to add Salic law) somehow have an infant heir a few months after her son died.. I assumed the Rp of it is that it would be her grandson by her dead child..
 
Or maybe they could make a new game which is a mix of CK2 and EU4? Maybe call it Renaissance (best title I can come up with), and have in game time stretch from 1300 to sometime in the 1600s, maybe going as far to the 1700s?
Imperator Rome was meant to be this, but it's a gigantic train-wreck.
 
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