If Macarthur nukes and invade China during the Korean war, what would the KMT in Taiwan’s reaction be? Would the Chinese support the CCP? How would the UN invasion of China look like? Would it be 1937 round two?
how is he invading China? We are barely holding on and he diverts forces for a half assed invasion? Truman will stomp him hardIf Macarthur nukes and invade China during the Korean war, what would the KMT in Taiwan’s reaction be? Would the Chinese support the CCP? How would the UN invasion of China look like? Would it be 1937 round two?
Disagree with that.KMT doesn’t really give a shit about civilians—neither did the CCP.Both parties had a rather atrocious record against civilians.I don't imagine the KMT would be very happy about 10's of 1000's of their relatives being vaporised, It would also turn all Chinese, Communists or not, against the US.
If Macarthur nukes and invade China during the Korean war, what would the KMT in Taiwan’s reaction be? Would the Chinese support the CCP? How would the UN invasion of China look like? Would it be 1937 round two?
Well, to quote Truman...Why was MacArthur fired by Truman?
So yeah. Insubordination, with being a dangerously egomaniacal dipshit as just adjacent to the whole thing.I fired him because he wouldn't respect the authority of the President. I didn't fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail.
As Worffan101 correctly stated insubordination. MacArthur had been ordered not to issue any unapproved public statements. He had written a letter to the Republican Senate Leader, which was read on the floor of the Senate, criticizing administration policy over the Korean War, and China policy. Truman rightly fired Big Mac. Generals cannot openly criticize, or speak contemptuously of the president, or government policy. If a general can't follow their orders without violating their conscience they have to resign. The only exception is if the order is illegal. MacArthur was making a political statement by forcing Truman to fire him, so both sides made their points.Why was MacArthur fired by Truman?
Truman never thought MacArthur requested the authority to use nukes. The question is a straight up preposition, did he or didn't he? Truman knew he hadn't. Truman often tried to misled the public, by distorting the historic record, or even stating outright falsehoods. He was generally not a reliable source for detailed information. He's owed credit for setting up the Cold War policy of containment, and national security establishment, but he was always willing to stretch the truth to defend himself, and his actions.Well according to this website, it states Macarthur never requested authorityto use nukes though Truman and many others believed he did : https://thediplomat.com/2016/01/what-if-the-united-states-had-used-the-bomb-in-korea/
Did he personally want to nuke China thougg?
It strikes me that there would be no UN invasion of China without some further resolution by the UN Security Counsel. I've always understood Resolution 84 as permitting UN armed actions anywhere within the two Koreas as necessary to end North Korean aggression and resestablish the old intra-Korean border. As such, MacArthur had no legal authority to conduct any operations outside of N. or S. Korea, not even limited bombing, let alone have UN commanded troops actually cross into another country.If Macarthur nukes and invade China during the Korean war, what would the KMT in Taiwan’s reaction be? Would the Chinese support the CCP? How would the UN invasion of China look like? Would it be 1937 round two?
You could start a whole TL out of no Korean War. The effects were global. Although Stalin succeeded in his goal of keeping China tied to the Soviet Block, he caused the West to rearm, and launch a massive nuclear arms buildup. When the Berlin Blockade started in 1948, the U.S. had 12 disassembled A-Bombs, by 1953 it had hundreds, and had tested the H-Bomb. Since then the world has lived in the shadow of nuclear annihilation.What happens to Japan with no Korean War? Also could an earlier split make the Non-Aligned movement more than a fiction?
So no nukes. Maybe biochem cold wars insteadYou could start a whole TL out of no Korean War. The effects were global. Although Stalin succeeded in his goal of keeping China tied to the Soviet Block, he caused the West to rearm, and launch a massive nuclear arms buildup. When the Berlin Blockade started in 1948, the U.S. had 12 disassembled A-Bombs, by 1953 it had hundreds, and had tested the H-Bomb. Since then the world has lived in the shadow of nuclear annihilation.
China, and Russia are not natural allies, but rivals.
It wasn't as straight forward as that. Both Washington, and Tokyo missed the clues that China would intervene. They thought it would be enough that only ROK troops would move up to the Yalu, though some Americans did reach it. Just threatening China like that would be dangerous. The Americans worried about the Soviet reaction. If they thought there was a high probability of Chinese intervention the UN wouldn't have invaded NK. They might have let the ROK go in, without Allied ground troops, it would've been hard to stop them anyway. There is no evidence that MacArthur ever even talked about using the bomb with anyone, at the time.No need for invasion but I would have used the.A Bomb. I'd have halted after taking Pyongyang but then told Mao - you intervene in Korea and we nuke you.Surely MacArthur fdid want to use the Bomb?