I really don't understand from where does the idea that the force labor has anything to do with the economy.
The New Order: Last Days of Europe - An Axis Victory Cold War Mod for HoIIV
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Yes, but with Thatcher they are gone for good, the port become yours.
It seems that the only way to control all britain as a conservative England is with Jellicoe.
I have a counter argument.
England starts still recovering from the nazi invasion and the London Uprising. Then the civil war happens, thus England is massively damaged, so the forced labour would be used to rebuild it.
IKEA up to the 80 and likely more.
I really don't understand why are you defending this practice.
Its evil and especialy insidious when combined with socialist rhetoric.
A fair enough argument, I suppose. Still, I would expect for England, even after a nazi invasion, London uprising, and civil war, to still have the fundamental infrastructure required in order to rebuild without forced labor. At the very least, there's no way that England is anywhere even close to the levels of "fucked up" that Russia and China were.
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, I don't think any OTL ML countries that arose out of semi-developed eastern Europe practiced forced labor to any significant degree, at least not to the extent that ML countries that arose out of undeveloped nations did. That said, I could be remembering incorrectly.
I will make it as clear as i can because i think you are missing the point that i'm trying to make.
The forced labour camps had as their objective deterrence,they were economically meaningless especialy here in Soviet occupied europe.
Edit:Also forced labour camps where a thing everywhere after the Soviet occupation,their sizes were relatively small(in general 1000+) but they did serve their purpose of inducing terror and keeping dissidents under watch.
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He'll quite happily send a man to prison or a gulag, but shooting is reserved for actual "threats" in his mind.
Stirling and Chesterton lack this qualifier.
which nation do I play for those
much better, this way I won't obsessively check for a new decision
For Zhdanov, you play as Komi, a warlord state in Russia. Voznesensky and the Democratic Coalition are in charge at first, but you can get Zhdanov to power by basically making decisions that boost his faction of the Communists Party. If you want an idea of how politics in Komi work and what getting him in charge is like, you can check out this unfinished playthrough.
Konev is a potential Soviet leader in Thousand- Week Reich, which is a separate mod. To play him, pick the Soviet Union and when Beria dies, you basically pick choices during the subsequent Communist Party leadership debate that favour Konev.
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Mostly because we didn't learn about this shit in school because we don't like to talk about West German complicity in GDR human rights abuses... anyways, thanks for giving me something new to read about.
Ok, so here what I can understand
Oberlander becomes the leader of the "nazi modernizers" (like reformist Bormann) and he attempts to take over, and Remer replaces Schörner
Thus this is the second season of the TNO, with new, newer chracters
I am curious about the Oberlander event. Since he leads the Hardliner Conservatives in Speer's Regime.
Spot on.
Conservative parties modernize themselves all the time im sure he will do a great job./s
I posted this on reddit, but what are your thoughts?
Oktan's Russia: Brittany of the East
What are the chances that Russia under an Oktan-led KONR becomes one huge black market state? Oktan loves money and runs smuggling rings from RK Moskowien to Samara.
Considering how he can take over Russia after succeeding Vlasov, as well his obsession with money, what are the chances he does what the Bretons do? Mikhail Oktan copies Brittany, and turns Russia into one big Black Market State that surpasses Brittany, gaining even more profits.
I can see Oktan surpassing Brittany, that and he applies Brittany's Black Market System in a nation the size of Russia. Nations faraway from Brittany like China instead look to Russia for black market goods. Russia due to its geography becomes Brittany of the East, as many eastern nations trade with Russia instead of Brittany.
It would be interesting seeing a Black Market War between Brittany and Oktan's Russia. Where Brittany sends in Commando Strike Teams or manipulates the markets attempting to sabotage Oktan's Giant Black Market Network.
Oktan's Russia: Brittany of the East
What are the chances that Russia under an Oktan-led KONR becomes one huge black market state? Oktan loves money and runs smuggling rings from RK Moskowien to Samara.
Considering how he can take over Russia after succeeding Vlasov, as well his obsession with money, what are the chances he does what the Bretons do? Mikhail Oktan copies Brittany, and turns Russia into one big Black Market State that surpasses Brittany, gaining even more profits.
I can see Oktan surpassing Brittany, that and he applies Brittany's Black Market System in a nation the size of Russia. Nations faraway from Brittany like China instead look to Russia for black market goods. Russia due to its geography becomes Brittany of the East, as many eastern nations trade with Russia instead of Brittany.
It would be interesting seeing a Black Market War between Brittany and Oktan's Russia. Where Brittany sends in Commando Strike Teams or manipulates the markets attempting to sabotage Oktan's Giant Black Market Network.
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