Some of these truces and armistices make sense and some don't. It's true that Drakia has no real capacity for a sustained attack on the US, let alone an occupation. But the US in turn has not ability to launch offensive operations against Drakia. I get the desire for declaring victory, but do they need America's recognition to do so? As a totalitarian regime can't they completely control the internal narrative. And externally can't they simply claim that they have decapitated America and there is no functional government left to accept a surrender from? Giving any concessions requires some fear damage if the war isn't officially ended, or a conscience. We haven't been given evidence of the first and the second is completely out of character for the country that just launched a pre-emptive orbital bombardment of the world to cover up its pre-emptive biological attack which together resulted in killing over half the global population.
Separated at Birth: America and Drakia
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Shit. I conflated the Lunar Mandate and Drakia's Continental Imperative. My bad.
Fixing.
What was the average human lifespan at the beginning of the Final War? Depending on how successful life extension has been in the Seperateverse, Klein may have a longer time on this Earth than we think.
At this point he's just so damn old, I presume he's like "well, better do what's left of America a favor before I kick the bucket, they really damn need it"
Guys, don't forget Kleins last act was a positive modifier for the US role. That means in all likelihood he's planning on backstabbing the Draka asap and did this so there would be a US left to fight.
The rolls were for the deaths from Stone Dogs. Klein's last act secured vaccines which will reduce future American deaths. Whether he backstabs or not, the modifier has been applied.
I wonder what's going to happen to Russia once Drakia implodes. Might the Scandinavians and Irish try to drive them out of occupied Europe? Also isn't Russia's population far smaller than OTL?
It also occurs to me that Ireland might just annex the former United Kingdom, which would be bitterly ironic.
It also occurs to me that Ireland might just annex the former United Kingdom, which would be bitterly ironic.
Klein's roll modifier would have applied even if the USA rolled much better, so presumably he'd somehow get them the vaccine even if the country was too intact for him to (nominally) take over. So I doubt he's a true believer in Drakia's cause at any rate.
I too am curious about the state of Russia. How badly were they hit, compared to Drakia? Are they going to have another slugging match with China after those 14 months?
I too am curious about the state of Russia. How badly were they hit, compared to Drakia? Are they going to have another slugging match with China after those 14 months?
Dart thought the Final War was a REALLY GOOD IDEA, and he considers the current outcome a decisive success. So I doubt he's entirely in touch with reality. Probably genuinely thinks Klein will bring true societism to the entire CONUS within the year.
Doesn't China has its own uranium reserves? But in general I suppose there will be a lot of trade between East Asia and Latin America. Most intact parts of the world, seemingly.
While the UK has suffered 70% casualties while Ireland is around 5% unless the demographics are really different from OTL they are still 3 to 4 times more British people than Irish so any union would be British dominated in due course.
Very saddening news.
Klein is still alive.
This might have a religious angle for some on the AFD, the man who is destroying the world, Jeremy Dart is hiding in Drakian-occupied Jerusalem.
The sole good news on this update.
I hope it's just a ruse to get the vaccines, while setting up an emergency and reconstruction government to be able to fight back against Drakia.
An autocratic government is inevitably victim of its reliance on a leader (who often will turn out to be incompetent, with no regular avenue of replacement by its population).
It might depend on the gender ratio of survivors and the level of population losses (and even it might occur, it will likely be temporary).
Always nice to see some defenestration!! And a most welcome back to here!
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I just want to say as a general compliment that Klein really has been cementing his place among most memorable fictional AH characters for me pretty much from his first appearance in the story. EBR has created a very interesting character there and you just know that something interesting will happen whenever he pops up in the narrative. Klein being succesful in his military adventure against Drakia is also probably one of my favourite WIs inside AH stories I like to ponder. (The American Thalassocracy FTW!)
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In my opinion, i think this America-Drakia split will look a look like Sino-Soviet Split, Unfortunately.
Also, realized something: Antonovich is still alive, isn't he, even if he is on his last legs, so to speak. Maybe the fall of the Final Society could be caused by Antonovich's death, because of his successor thinking Russia can now stand tall and strong once more?
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The Drakian gave Germany, Rumania and Kurdistan and have proved they can invade Russia before
The Drakian military was down to 38% of its prewar forces before launching its post-apocalyptic offensive. In that offensive the Chinese dropped a dozen nukes on bases, supply depots and troop concentrations throughout the Middle East. The Drakians unsuccessfully threw themselves multiple times at the defensive lines in Europe. Even the successful invasion of Long Island came at some cost. Drakia is in no state for an invasion of a largely intact country, which I believe Russia still is. A Drakia that doesn't collapse would most certainly return and level Russia in a decade or two, but it will be struggling to keep the lights on and bondsmen subdued at home for a bit.
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