Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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Imperial German plans for the invasion of the United States - Wikipedia
Apparently Germany made plans to try and attempt a naval invasion of the US to get concessions from the Americans. Three plans were made, the first, drawn up in 1897, was to destroy shipyards on the coast of Virginia so that Germany could supposedly establish colonies in the Caribbean and the Pacific without the US intervening. The other two, drawn up in 1899 and 1901, were actually to try and land troops on Cape Cod in Massachusetts and on Sandy Hook in New Jersey to shell Boston and New York, respectively, to force the US to relinquish Cuba and Puerto Rico so the Germans could build naval bases on the islands and threaten the Panama Canal. These plans really show how overconfident the German leadership was of their military abilities before the first World War
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....was the former eastern half of the Ottoman Empire gonna be given to ninja clans or something?
US plans for a post-Ottoman Middle East, as seen on Diverse Travel.
jk, of course--i don't directly recognize most of their symbols but i do already know that the Armenian one, at least, is legitDid Diverse Travel have any citations for this? Because the only part of this I've ever heard of before is Mandatory Armenia and the internationalized Straits.
So Uzumakis are originally from Armenia? Interesting.......was the former eastern half of the Ottoman Empire gonna be given to ninja clans or something?
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US plans for a post-Ottoman Middle East, as seen on Diverse Travel.
Is it just me or did they use a Georgian symbol to represent Armenia here
Seems like a weird choice to have Syria represented by the SSNP symbol...
Also, were the Americans really planning to freeze the French out completely? Not even a role in Lebanon?
They say it is based on the King-Crane Commission Report.
I am also confused by the lack of French mandates, which makes me doubt its complete accuracy.
OK, this is more of a general question than anything else, but it could have consequences re: alternate resolutions to a war (aim)...
Does anybody have detailed information on how Mexican governmental authorities, either federal or state, actually defined the western border of Coahuila y Tejas prior to the Mexican War? I've seen numerous interpretations, all vaguely similar, but differing significantly in detail...
It seems like at one point, years ago, I ran across almost like a "Metes and Bounds" description up to the point west of and near to San Antonio (roughly), but it gets less specific once it runs to the southeast corner of Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico and then northeast to somewhere along the Red River.
Anybody have something more... specific?
I found this, which shows an interpretation from the Mexican perspective mid-1820's, which is good b/c it has a lat/long grid in Plate Carree, but it's still pretty... Subject to interpretation...
Does anybody have detailed information on how Mexican governmental authorities, either federal or state, actually defined the western border of Coahuila y Tejas prior to the Mexican War? I've seen numerous interpretations, all vaguely similar, but differing significantly in detail...
It seems like at one point, years ago, I ran across almost like a "Metes and Bounds" description up to the point west of and near to San Antonio (roughly), but it gets less specific once it runs to the southeast corner of Santa Fe de Nuevo Mexico and then northeast to somewhere along the Red River.
Anybody have something more... specific?
I found this, which shows an interpretation from the Mexican perspective mid-1820's, which is good b/c it has a lat/long grid in Plate Carree, but it's still pretty... Subject to interpretation...
I did an enormous amount of research on this a couple of months ago, and unfortunately I couldn't find anything specific, even trawling through old Spanish-language archives. I'm convinced at this point that they just didn't write any of it down. And this doesn't just apply to Tejas y Coahuila, but all of the northern territories of Mexico whose borders have since been altered or rendered nonexistent by the cession to the United States. That map is an excellent find, though.
Thanks, it was somewhere on Wikipedia...
Here's another interesting one I found on a Google search, showing roughly the same border along with the old land grants...
This reminds me of reading on how some of the British wanted the Americans to take on Armenia and the Straits so that they would be obligated to also have a Mandate of sorts over the Turks between them. Also was an idea of having the Americans get a Mandate over Palestine, but the British wanted it for themselves. I really do have too wonder just who make this map and thought the British would give up Kuwait or the Tricia’s States. And why Hejaz would be assumed to not exist. I do hope that website has other ridiculously fun maps as well.
US plans for a post-Ottoman Middle East, as seen on Diverse Travel.
There are plenty of others. They seem to alternate between a new travel photo or a map/infographic.
They recently did a map of Locations Proposed for a Jewish State, and there are some others of the British and French colonial Empires as "Contiguous States".
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Stalin's secret war plans - Vivid Maps
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