Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread III

Or, of course, Germany having reluctantly to intervene to protect people in danger of being ethnically cleansed. It can be spun many ways, and I imagine Germany's PA people are working hard to make sure that's the narrative that gets promoted out there...

You can spin anything anyway you want, especially if you are "economical" with the truth. You can make Mother Theresa the epitome of evil and Stalin the caring, benevolent father of the nation. Remember the words of Joseph Goebbels, the patron saint of spin doctors, "Tell lies, lots of lies. Something will stick".

A good PR department is vital in situations like this.
 
While the United States can not do anything directly to affect the ultimate victory for Germany the problem is the possibility that Polish-Americans could supply a significant amount of financial support to the Polish government and/or a violent splinter group which would allow them to continue the conflict
IOTL Irish-Americans were contribtutors to NORAID which funneled money to the IRA and a public relations campaign that showed what the money was really for was essential in stopping the flow of money.
 
Part 113, Chapter 1864
Chapter One Thousand Eight Hundred Sixty-Four



3rd August 1968

Kreuzberg, Berlin

Of all the places that his father would be. The Philharmonie Concert Hall used by Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra for the last several decades was not the one that Freddy would have expected. He questioned exactly how appropriate it was during the present situation.

The Orchestra itself was conducting rehearsal and Louis Ferdinand was watching in the otherwise empty auditorium. For decades he burnished his reputation as a patron of the arts and in recent years the Classical Music scene in Berlin had enjoyed a renaissance in Berlin, bucking the notion that the music was stodgy and outmoded as it was frequently seen in other parts of the world. It was a triumph for both Orchestra and their patrons.

“Why are you here?” Freddy asked as he sat down in the seat next to his father. “Is this the best use of your time?”

“Life doesn’t stop Friedrich” Louis replied, “If you spend all of your time focusing on the latest crisis you will eventually destroy yourself. You see, there will always be another crisis and if there are any new developments I will be informed.”

Freddy sat there for a minute, he understood what his father was saying. Still, appearances had to be maintained.

“Pay attention to this next part” Louis said, “I am particularly pleased with how it turned out.”

After a pause, the strings started playing a simple melody. Somehow, it seemed full of a kind of yearning. A minute later, the brass started playing the counterpoint, which was insistent and boisterous. Oddly, they were both the same tune, point and counterpoint, intertwined with each other.

“What is this?” Freddy asked, “I’m not familiar with it.”

“A gift for your sisters, this is the introduction” Louis replied, “My hope is that it will be ready by Christmas.”

At that moment, there was a pause and the woodwinds began. The piece was hesitant, halting in its progression. Timid, until it found its footing when it advanced forward in a wild rush. Then the violins began a jaunty melody, playful and somewhat discordant with the woodwinds.

“You wrote this?” Freddy asked.

“With the help of the Meisterin” Louis replied, nodding toward the front of the Orchestra.

Looking down at the Conductor’s podium, Freddy saw that Sarah von Schmidt was conducting. He knew who she was, a former child prodigy who was a longstanding pianist and violinist in the Berlin Philharmonic and the Django Reinhardt Orchestra. Freddy knew that his father wrote music, but not at this level. And what were his father’s muses going to make of this gift.



Wodzislaw, Poland

Bogdan had discovered that his hands wouldn’t stop shaking. The retreat from Miechów had been a nightmare and that had come after he had been subjected to protracted shelling. The German scouts had retreated and predictably 15cm shells had started landing on his position. Bogdan was left clawing at the ground at the bottom of his foxhole trying to dig deeper. He had been able to hear the sound of the howitzers firing in the distance seconds before the next wave of shells arrived.

Then it had stopped, and the air had been filled with the sound of revving engines and the ground shook as Panzers and APCs had advanced up the road. The Kaptian had ordered them to retreat and the Company had lost all cohesion as they had fled north.

It was afterwards when things had become surreal. As what was left of the Company staggered into Wodzislaw, they had found fresh troops had staring at them agog. Then Bogdan had found himself promoted to Plutonowy because he had not lost his rifle during the retreat. It was as if the whole world had gone insane.

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Looking through his binoculars from his hidden vantage point, Christian saw that the Poles had dug trenches and strung barbed wire. It all seemed like something from another era. He had no doubt that there were also landmines, anti-tank guns, and anything else that could be thrown at the 4th Panzer Division. The Hauptmann had told him that the 7th Recon job wasn’t to act as shock troops, it was to find the enemy and gather intelligence. Well, he had found the enemy. It took Christian a considerable amount of time to get an estimate of what sort of numbers he was looking at.

Walking back to the Iltis, Christian started telling Rolf what he was to relay back to Command. He took off his helmet as they started the drive back to headquarters and looked at it sourly. The Hauptmann had told him to replace the cover when the rip in it had been noticed. Christian had tried to fix it several times but every time he had stitched it, it had ripped again. The new helmet cover wasn’t bleached the sun and elements yet, the sort of thing that caused people to look at him as if he were fresh fish.

“I hate this stupid thing” Christian said aloud, “People think I am a fucking new guy.”

“The EK2 you’re getting will help with that” Einar said.

That was something that Christian was still trying to figure out. Before he had been evacuated to the field hospital, Gérald had told the Hauptmann that Christian had saved his life when he had put out fire in the Iltis. The way Gérald had described the incident, it sounded as if the whole thing had been engulfed in flames. It all seemed a bit silly.
 
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“The EK2 you’re getting will help with that” Einar said.

That was something that Christian was still trying to figure out. Before he had been evacuated to the field hospital, Gérald had told the Hauptmann that Christian had saved his life when he had put out fire in the Iltis. The way Gérald had described the incident, it sounded as if the whole thing had been engulfed in flames. It all seemed a bit silly.

It seems that every 'new guy' who does something they view as unremarkable in battle from Emil Holz, Peter Holz, Hans Mischner, Kat Mischner, Tilo Schulz and so on all wonder about why they get the medals. Funnily enough, there's always a SNCO or Officer to explain to them that "their actions reflect upon the unit in which they serve" (or words to that effect).
 
It seems that every 'new guy' who does something they view as unremarkable in battle from Emil Holz, Peter Holz, Hans Mischner, Kat Mischner, Tilo Schulz and so on all wonder about why they get the medals. Funnily enough, there's always a SNCO or Officer to explain to them that "their actions reflect upon the unit in which they serve" (or words to that effect).
Kat had other issues, trying to commit suicide with the help of the Russians didn't work out for her. Hans was trying to get the complete collection of medals an enlisted soldier could get, even though his advancement caused him a bit of trouble with Jost Schultz. Tilo was shooting blindly into a field of tall grass, there just happened to be Japanese in that field, otherwise he would have been in a whole lot of trouble. Emil was ordered into a situation where he was expected to be killed.
 

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The howitzers must have a very low muzzle velocity becaus normally you hear the firing of the gun after the shell has arrived... if you are lucky.
 
The Orchestra itself was conducting rehearsal and Louis Ferdinand was watching in the otherwise empty auditorium. For decades he burnished his reputation as a patron of the arts and in recent years the Classical Music scene in Berlin had enjoyed a renaissance in Berlin, bucking the notion that the music was stodgy and outmoded as it was frequently seen in other parts of the world. It was a triumph for both Orchestra and their patrons.

In a few years time, Sarah Von Schmidt with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra and the Moondogs, will produce a huge show in Berlin together or the Moondogs biggest hits. Funded by LFvH as patron of the Orchestra.

I think Bogdan has the other valuable skill of a soldier. He is good and he is lucky.
These skills are massively underrated, especially the latter skill. There's a strong chance we are seeing the first steps of either a future President of Poland or a General of the Army.
 
Kat had other issues, trying to commit suicide with the help of the Russians didn't work out for her. Hans was trying to get the complete collection of medals an enlisted soldier could get, even though his advancement caused him a bit of trouble with Jost Schultz. Tilo was shooting blindly into a field of tall grass, there just happened to be Japanese in that field, otherwise he would have been in a whole lot of trouble. Emil was ordered into a situation where he was expected to be killed.
I see your point P-M, but the 'gateway' medal is usually won by your protagonists with the admonition that "this isn't about you, it's for the unit/ship". I also noted that was how Jacob Schmidt's collection began after the ambush of USS Texas, while the late Chancellor Augustus Lang bristled at his EK2 as he felt he hadn’t earned it.
 
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It seems that every 'new guy' who does something they view as unremarkable in battle from Emil Holz, Peter Holz, Hans Mischner, Kat Mischner, Tilo Schulz and so on all wonder about why they get the medals. Funnily enough, there's always a SNCO or Officer to explain to them that "their actions reflect upon the unit in which they serve" (or words to that effect).

This is an actual trait among soldiers. New Zealand SAS soldier Willie Apiata V.C. is quoted as saying "But I was only doing my job, Boss" when told that he was going to be awarded the medal.
 
This is an actual trait among soldiers. New Zealand SAS soldier Willie Apiata V.C. is quoted as saying "But I was only doing my job, Boss" when told that he was going to be awarded the medal.

VC winners always tend to be especially quiet about it though. Look at that programme Jeremy Clarkson did on it - he didn't even realise his father-in-law had the VC until after the man died.
 
The howitzers must have a very low muzzle velocity becaus normally you hear the firing of the gun after the shell has arrived... if you are lucky.
Not necessarily. If there is some topographical feature (woods, buildings and such) between the guns and the target area, the howitzers can fire high angle shots at a higher charge. Low angle shots might arrive in 5-10 seconds, while high angle shots can take 20-30 seconds.
 
Bogdan an is an excellent window in what an ordinary soldier is facing against the Germans, so far I believe that he has been in action three times against the Germans and is basically very lucky to be alive at this point.
While we pretty much know the capabilities of the Germans at this point we have the Polish military not doing well and their leadership seems to think in a static way that is unable to adapt to the current situation.
I think that this action against the Poles is not going to go past ten to fifteen days as there is just too many avenues of attack for the Poles to defend and there only need to be just one breakthrough to collapse any armed resistance.
 
Is there: tracked guns and howitzers of all calibers on call; towed ones setup to fire cover; and finally what about rockets like a MLRS/Nebelwarfer?

And how much is there available?
Just as a maintenance note but I received a notification that something "I" had posted been quoted in this post. Not at ALL sure where that came from but FYI :)

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Par 113, Chapter 1865
Chapter One Thousand Eight Hundred Sixty-Five



5th August 1968

Near Kielce, Poland

The men on the self-propelled guns and the ammo carriers waved as the Iltis vehicles that Christian and his Squad were riding in raced by. A Panther hull with an open superstructure welded to it, the barrel of a 15cm “Evergreen” howitzer projected over the sloped front of the hull and several meters beyond. He recognized them as belonging to the 76th Motorized Artillery Brigade, the same outfit that had provided cover for when they had retreated from Miechów a few days earlier.

As it had turned out, the Bohemians had bypassed Wodzislaw and had taken the Polish city of Jedrzejow. Taking out the main logistics hub on the Polish Army in southern Poland in the process. The 2nd Army had followed suit, swinging east of Wodzislaw, and racing north. The defenders of Wodzislaw had woken up the day before to discover that their lines had been rendered redundant and they were surrounded, deep in unfriendly territory. In a radio address, General von Mischner had congratulated the men of the 2nd Army Corps and their Bohemian Allies for turning the town into a POW camp. The 2nd Army’s spiritual father, General von Wolvogle, Old Wolf himself, would be proud of how they had torn a page out of his book before remembering that they still needed to return it to the library. Then Hans von Mischner had asked a question that had caused the 2nd to redouble their efforts. In the north, the Marine Infantry had been battling their way towards Warsaw and were closer to the capital. Did the 2nd Army want those scumbags to get there first? Everyone knew what the answer was. A very loud and enthusiastic NO!

The day before, Christian found himself made acting Squad Leader, a new Iltis and two replacements being assigned to it. The Hauptmann had told him to not stupidly get his head blown off like his predecessor had. Then they had taken the vanguard, scouting ahead of the 4th Division until it had gotten too dark to see and using headlights was asking to get plastered. By the next morning they had discovered that most of their Division had pressed froward through the night and had passed them. The Hauptmann had been pissed to learn where they had ended up once they got him on the radio. Christian had made the mistake of pointing out that if they had a Sperber set or two they could have stayed out front and had gotten his ass chewed for it. Luckily, he wasn’t there in person, so Christian figured that if he could avoid going back to headquarters for the next day or so, the Hauptmann would have far larger problems to contend with.

Rounding a bend in the road, Christian saw dozens of SPz-4 APCs and lories full of supplies. That meant that they had caught up with the 8th Battalion, the main infantry component of the 4th Division.



Wodzislaw, Poland

A couple days before, Bogdan would have given anything to get out of the war. Now though, he had learned that his involvement was over. The entire day prior they had heard rumors, that they were surrounded and that being relieved was extremely unlikely. Today, they had watched as Germans, mostly medics and other support personnel had crossed the lines to ask their Commanders if they had wounded who needed to be evacuated and to learn just what needs those trapped inside the town had. Them officials from the International Red Cross had shown up and had started taking names. That was when it had struck Bogdan that he was a prisoner of war and it had felt like a punch to the gut.

It was then at what Bogdan knew was his lowest moment when a man he had never seen before walked down the lines. There were a number of men with him and the Kapitan was ordered to gather the men. When he opened his mouth, Bogdan discovered that he sounded like someone from Warsaw, educated though.

“The only question you men need to ask yourselves is who the bigger vultures are, those in Warsaw or in Berlin” He said.

“But you are one of them” Bogdan found himself saying.

“Hardly” The man said, “I am the one who knows a better way then this bullshit.”

He made a gesture towards pointless trenches and Bogdan realized that it was impossible to argue that point.



Mitte, Berlin

Nancy found herself juggling a great deal as she tried to maintain the public relations of the House of Hohenzollern. The Government and the Military had their own people for this sort of thing and that made her job much easier. The problem that Nancy found herself contending with was the various theories that bloody-minded people with entirely too much time on their hands came up with. This whole mess in Poland had given them a plethora of material to work with and Nancy found herself fending off questions from serious journalists who always wondered if there was anything to those theories.

Into this was Tilo’s departure to Poland, meaning that the journalists had questions for Nancy herself. That added an uncomfortable dimension to the whole thing. Sabastian was behaving himself for once. With the prospect of being sent to boarding school looming, it had finally gotten through to him that his actions had consequences. Anna and Gretchen had watched all of this wide eyed. Gretchen was still too young to understand what was happening and Anna had accused Nancy of sending her big brother away just to be mean or something.
 
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