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1792 as of current suggestions
(for reference this is five years after the constitutional convention, plenty of time for things to deteriorate and get out of hand)
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on the topic of the erie triangle, it was federal land at the time of the constitutional convention, should it go to the rump usa or become part of ny?
New York and Virginia sweat profuselyThose are some nice flags.
Here's hoping the provincial flags do not suffer from "seal on a bedsheet" syndrome.
i've been working on some flags:
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Rhode Island (they can't all be winners, especially Rhode Island, because they last four years)
That's a nice one for RI, by our state flag standards. Knowing RI as I do, though, it would be just as likely they'd use the Regimental Flag or this one or a combo of them. Having said that, your design could work as a marine flag (which would make RI one of the few states, along with Massachusetts and IOTL also Maine, that have its own maritime ensign) as long as the anchor - long an RI symbol - is worked in somehow.
,Nice flags.
I saw this get brought up earlier, Georgia having trouble with the Native nation within it's claimed borders, and I have to agree. Georgia at the time was very much centered on the Savannah River and while it claimed to the Mississippi, the state couldn't really exercise power too far away from the coastal heartland. While I could see a push to actualize the state's borders to my knowledge the "Five Civilized Tribes" were still pretty strong, and without Federal troops they could very well repel any significant encroachment Georgia tries.
That's a nice one for RI, by our state flag standards. Knowing RI as I do, though, it would be just as likely they'd use the Regimental Flag or this one or a combo of them. Having said that, your design could work as a marine flag (which would make RI one of the few states, along with Massachusetts and IOTL also Maine, that have its own maritime ensign) as long as the anchor - long an RI symbol - is worked in somehow.
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long term, without federal expulsion, do you think the Cherokee and others become recognized states?
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how's this?
But the state flag color itself HAS to be blue, isn't that written into the Constitution somewhere?New York and Virginia sweat profusely
But the state flag color itself HAS to be blue, isn't that written into the Constitution somewhere?
how does the failure of the united states effect the french revolution
All of the problems are still there.
The Enlightenment writings that inspired the American Revolution still exist. The Declaration of Independence still exists, to act as a basis to an alt-Declaration of the Rights of Man.
French finances are in a terrible state, especially after funding the American Revolution.
The tax burden is still overwhelmingly on the common people of France. The bureaucracy is still incredibly corrupt. The prestige of the monarchy has still taken several hits. Marie-Antoinette is still very unpopular. Louis XVI's character won't be markedly different.
The price of food - especially of bread - is still an issue. There were riots over this issue in France.
The Laki volcano erupted in June 1783 - prior to the POD - and its resultant effects on the climate will still have an impact on harvests.
It might not happen in the same way as OTL, but I don't see the French Revolution not happening at all - not with a POD post-1783.
Jacque: now that we've put the king under house arrest, do you think we should do away with the monarchy?Agreed, but does a failed American experiment in democracy (if breaking up into smaller, non-monarchical units is deemed a failure- do all of them stay republics in one form or another?) change the goals of the French Revolution? Does it become less idealistic and more pragmatic coup? French Revolution is not my area of study, but I have been taught/acculturated to believe that the success of the American Revolution inspired a certain Enlightenment element in the FR to aspire for more than a change in masters and living conditions.