The Footprint of Mussolini - TL

Any band probably don't even declare itself as far-leftist band when it would totally end their career. It is quiet same if some band would declare being Nazi.
Yeah, but there's a lot of bands IOTL that don't declare themselves far right but they are, and everyone knows that so nobody other than a few fringe folks listens to them.

I'd imagine anarchist, socialist, and commie bands ITTL would be similar, like how a lot of far right bands (let's take metal as an example, as it is a genre unfortunately on occasion tainted by their presence) for example declare themselves to just be a metal band, sometimes folk metal. If they declare a political leaning, it will tend to be conservative or, if they're feeling particularly brave or stupid, nationalist.

Similarly, ITTL, leftist musicians may refer to themselves by genre rather than political leaning, or use something like liberal or progressive so as not to openly admit to being far left, however they will likely still be viewed negatively because being politically extreme tends to be hard to hide.




Considering how African-American society has evolved TTL, music has got to me very, very different. Since black-fascism is a thing and segregation is more common, this probably affects the kind of things black people sing about.
 
One question I have is did Germany's Jews have the same revival they did OTL?

In 1990 there were approximately 30,000 German Jews (down from over 500,000 in 1933) but their population increased to around 250,000 German Jews as of 2016. Mostly because of Ukrainian and Russian Jews who migrated into Germany after the fall of Soviet Russia in 1991 and deliberate relaxation of policies by Helmut Kohl permitting Soviet Jewry to easily immigrate into Germany.

Present-day Jews feel increasingly under pressure by violent antisemitic attacks:
 
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One question I have is did Germany's Jews have the same revival they did OTL?

In 1990 there were approximately 30,000 German Jews (down from over 500,000 in 1933) but their population increased to around 250,000 German Jews as of 2016. Mostly because of Ukrainian and Russian Jews who migrated into Germany after the fall of Soviet Russia in 1991 and deliberate relaxation of policies by Helmut Kohl permitting Soviet Jewry to easily immigrate into Germany.

Present-day Jews feel increasingly under pressure by violent antisemitic attacks:

You read about Second Holocaust? Russian Jews moved to Israel so probably not such revival of German Jewish community as in OTL.

Just wondering how many Jews in Russia is ITTL? Definitely much fewer than in OTL if any. Jews probably haven't any trust towards Russians when every regime, no matter was it tsarist or Communist has persecuted them.
 
You read about Second Holocaust? Russian Jews moved to Israel so probably not such revival of German Jewish community as in OTL.

Just wondering how many Jews in Russia is ITTL? Definitely much fewer than in OTL if any. Jews probably haven't any trust towards Russians when every regime, no matter was it tsarist or Communist has persecuted them.

Ah, I forgot about that.
 
You read about Second Holocaust? Russian Jews moved to Israel so probably not such revival of German Jewish community as in OTL.

Just wondering how many Jews in Russia is ITTL? Definitely much fewer than in OTL if any. Jews probably haven't any trust towards Russians when every regime, no matter was it tsarist or Communist has persecuted them.

Considering the TTL history of Jews in Europe (two Holocausts and many pogroms before that) staying in Europe might be suicide.

Now granted, you do have the bright spot that was Fascist Italy (something I never thought I could write), but the fact remains that Jewish history TTL has never been kind.
 
I think Somalia will remain a Italian colony - here's why

Somalia has rumored 100 billion barrels Oil undiscovered - Italy knows Somalia could become their "Kuwait" and second source when Libyan oil becomes more scarce - they can then try and buy off separatism with investing and making lives inside the province pretty nice - keep in mind it is already at OTL polish levels but once more oil is utilized it can become akin to "Gulf" standards.

They will also argue that the Italian settler community must remain protected - probably using Islamophobic and racist tropes - yet after several decades of fascism you can't expect anything else.

They will furthermore argue that Italy keeps "the peace" among the clans, and should independence occur, a clanist struggle will follow.

I can see however, a division of Italian East Africa into a Eritrea and Somali protectorate to somewhat satisfy Somali nationalists craving, as well as more devolved local autonomy.

Best case being a independent Somali strongly tied toward a Italian union - yet not independent with foreign policy whatsoever and made for economically favoring Italy, probably with Italian settler privileges remaining.
 
One reason why Somalia remain as part of Italian empire is that there is probably serious threat of Ethiopian invasion. Ethiopia probably still wants whole or most of Italian East Africa so local might favor being part of Italy.
 
You know I have to wonder. I wonder how things would have gone if say, FDR did what he did IOTL and dumped Wallace and put Truman on the ticket? I wonder how Truman would have dealt with Mussolini and the Roman Alliance, not to mention the effects on American politics?

At the very least he wouldn’t have given atomic secrets to Stalin nor would he have intervened in China.
 
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You know I have to wonder. I wonder how things would have gone if say, FDR did what he did IOTL and dumped Wallace and put Truman on the ticket? I wonder how Truman would have dealt with Mussolini and the Roman Alliance, not to mention the effects on American politics?

At the very least he wouldn’t have given atomic secrets to Stalin nor would he have intervened in China.

Well, Truman was anti-Communist to his very core. I can picture him sending aid to the Roman Alliance as the Cold War progressed.
 
You know I have to wonder. I wonder how things would have gone if say, FDR did what he did IOTL and dumped Wallace and put Truman on the ticket? I wonder how Truman would have dealt with Mussolini and the Roman Alliance, not to mention the effects on American politics?

At the very least he wouldn’t have given atomic secrets to Stalin nor would he have intervened in China.

Right off the bat, Poland would never be nuked, Hokkaido would never be split off from Japan, and the Chinese War might have never happened or at least have not been a near victory for Mao. Whether they like it or not, Poland, Japan and China as they are by TTL's 2020 is largely because of the ripple effect of Wallace's presidency.

This also butterflies away Patton's presidency but doesn't necessarily mean that the Roman Alliance won't be getting new members in Latin America throughout the 1950s.
 
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You know I have to wonder. I wonder how things would have gone if say, FDR did what he did IOTL and dumped Wallace and put Truman on the ticket? I wonder how Truman would have dealt with Mussolini and the Roman Alliance, not to mention the effects on American politics?

At the very least he wouldn’t have given atomic secrets to Stalin nor would he have intervened in China.

So how much longer FDR would live ITTL? Would he still die before Potsdam or after Potsdam? If he dies before Potsdam Wallace would still be president altough only much shoter time than in OTL and Truman would be still president standing against Japan. Not sure what kind of deal Wallace would manage make with Stalin. Probably quiet same as in OTL so Truman has now fix damaged relationships with Brits. Not sure how he would deal with Mussolini. Probably USA would still enter to Chinese War.

This leads to question: Would Truman win 1948 election?

At least we avoid Patton's presidency. Not sure how civil rights morement would develope. But it is quiet probable that there is not Freedom Party.

So, assuming no further impeachments or assassinations, what number president would we be at in 2000?

Surely much shoter than ITTL.
 
Let's say he dies the same day as IOTL.

So he would be still president at times of Conference of Potsdam. He probably wouldn't make so many agreements with Stalin. At least he probably would demand end of occupation of Finland and neutralisation of the country. But probably him has still give up with Poland and Slovakia.

In Asia there wouldn't be division of Japan. Not sure what they would deal over China and Korea.
 
Let's say he dies the same day as IOTL.

OTL, FDR's death is one of the saddest things ever.

He spent so much time and effort to achieve victory in the greatest war in history, toward building a new international covenant, and toward building an better and more free America. And yet, he never lived to see these things. And his own hated rival, Adolf, outlived him by 18 days.

ITTL, his death is that and Franz Ferdinand's: it had tragic consequences for humanity.
 
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