"What Madness Is This?" Volume II: Prophecies in the Dark
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Although I'm unsure about some of that, and am unsure about this, I think I saw somewhere that a Congo Lake would definitely create malarial swamps, and might even have its own hurricane season
I imagine that given the many many threats to illuminism from within and without the idea of dismantling the state will prove rather unpopular, unless dismantling is euphemism for quick rebranding, so the objectivists are probably at a disadvantage unless they fuse with one of the other factions.
That being said, I think the most interesting path forward is a fusion of all 3.
Talking about Illuminist Russia, i think a future war against Turkey is a likely scenario. Not only the country is an islamic theocracy, but the bad blood between the Turks and the Russians has been a problem for centuries and it is even worse ITTL since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
With Viktor gone, i can see Turkey attacking Armenia ,believing it defendless, but inavertidely giving Moscow a reasoon to intervene in the conflict
With Viktor gone, i can see Turkey attacking Armenia ,believing it defendless, but inavertidely giving Moscow a reasoon to intervene in the conflict
If I remember correctly, the remnants of the Romanov/Hannover family are in Turkey. They could play a role in such a scenario.
I am honestly surprised they were even allowed near Turkey, after the events of the Balkan Wars. Honestly i am kinda worried for them
Are they not in Constantinople? As I remember that is still a Free City which would be under the control of the League of Tsars. It is a far better alternative than going to rabidly hostile Turkey that hates your guts in the most extreme ways possible.
"The Imperial family itself was spared death, but Viktor II was permanently sent to a Siberian labor camp and the rest of the family, including his two sisters, was exiled to Turkey and forbidden from ever returning to Russia" from the "POST-WAR EUROPE:RUSSIA " chapter (https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...e-union-forever.451900/page-267#post-18948765)
With all these Spiritual Marxism wackiness ongoing, I wonder what had been of the more... material of the bugaboos. So far, we only have the apemen, haven't we?
I'm personally curious what the Fearsome Critter lore is TTL. Historically a lot of it was centered on New England and the Old Northwest so it's right up their alley.With all these Spiritual Marxism wackiness ongoing, I wonder what had been of the more... material of the bugaboos. So far, we only have the apemen, haven't we?
A truly enraged Father Abe comes back from the dead to murder Pinnacle Yanks he finds wanting (2020 colorized)
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“They say Oswalds tears cure cancer. Unfortunately, he’s too Pinnacle to ever cry”
The idea of Chuck
Based on J Westrate's ideas for Illuminist Russia post Volkov's death, here is my idea for synthesizing all three:
Illuminist Russia had prospered. After the devastating Civil War, it had rebuilt from a rump nation into a new industrial superpower by 1940s, with supports from Poland, East Germania and Ukraine. The passing of Oleg Volkov greatly saddened tens of millions of Russian, the man who made IPRR reclaimed the past glory of Old Russia. The three factions of Illuminism - Objectivist-Libertarian, Technocrat, and Ultramilitarist - knew that any side which gained dominance for the Protector seat would be devastating to IPRR (hey, Illuminist are rationale. Bizzare af but Russia is still their beloved country). They formulated a plan to reorganize the government into three superbranches: the Ministry of Science (MiNa), the Ministry of Economy (MiEk), and the Ministry of Military (MiVo), or the Iron Triangle. The MiNa would allow funds to flow into R&D for the MiVo and providing expertise to develop Siberia, and the MiEk would enact policies to massively expand infrastructures into Siberia, while the MiVo would go on to build military installments, research centers and military settlements (closed cities) to help realizing both MiEk's economic visions and MiNa's desire for science and technology. The Protector of IPRR would be elected from members of the Illuminist Party to give a feeling of democracy for the people, but advices and legislations would only come from the three superbranches, effectively sealing off the de facto powers from citizens. Regardless of however democracy died in Russia, the three superbranches would make the Illuminist Bloc even more powerful than before, as R&D expanded immensely and the government became extremely opened to technology if it meant to control people and to realize the Illuminist dreams of eternal progress. Plus, they knew positive reinforcements rule people better than fear. (Cokies, have fun dreaming of invading Russia like in your movie Chancellor Jackson's Return).
The MiNa's appeal to the Technocrats is self-explanatory. But, I think with Asimov, a Foundation-esque Russia is possible. The MiVo's appeal to the Ultramilitarist/Zhukov came from the fact that they could operate and have more closed cities and military installments. The MiEk's appeal to Objectivist-Libertarian came from how the government could make state-corporations to do investment, and people could buy stocks in such corporations, creating more money for the government to develop and more economic prosperity for the people, thus even more money.
Science in Russian is nauka, military is voyska, and economics is ekonomica, hence MiNa, MiVo, and MiEk.
Aside, here is a motto for Illuminism: (based on 1984's Ingsoc's motto, sans oxymorons)
Knowledge is Strength - War is Progress - Anti-Revolution is Reactionary
Illuminist Russia had prospered. After the devastating Civil War, it had rebuilt from a rump nation into a new industrial superpower by 1940s, with supports from Poland, East Germania and Ukraine. The passing of Oleg Volkov greatly saddened tens of millions of Russian, the man who made IPRR reclaimed the past glory of Old Russia. The three factions of Illuminism - Objectivist-Libertarian, Technocrat, and Ultramilitarist - knew that any side which gained dominance for the Protector seat would be devastating to IPRR (hey, Illuminist are rationale. Bizzare af but Russia is still their beloved country). They formulated a plan to reorganize the government into three superbranches: the Ministry of Science (MiNa), the Ministry of Economy (MiEk), and the Ministry of Military (MiVo), or the Iron Triangle. The MiNa would allow funds to flow into R&D for the MiVo and providing expertise to develop Siberia, and the MiEk would enact policies to massively expand infrastructures into Siberia, while the MiVo would go on to build military installments, research centers and military settlements (closed cities) to help realizing both MiEk's economic visions and MiNa's desire for science and technology. The Protector of IPRR would be elected from members of the Illuminist Party to give a feeling of democracy for the people, but advices and legislations would only come from the three superbranches, effectively sealing off the de facto powers from citizens. Regardless of however democracy died in Russia, the three superbranches would make the Illuminist Bloc even more powerful than before, as R&D expanded immensely and the government became extremely opened to technology if it meant to control people and to realize the Illuminist dreams of eternal progress. Plus, they knew positive reinforcements rule people better than fear. (Cokies, have fun dreaming of invading Russia like in your movie Chancellor Jackson's Return).
The MiNa's appeal to the Technocrats is self-explanatory. But, I think with Asimov, a Foundation-esque Russia is possible. The MiVo's appeal to the Ultramilitarist/Zhukov came from the fact that they could operate and have more closed cities and military installments. The MiEk's appeal to Objectivist-Libertarian came from how the government could make state-corporations to do investment, and people could buy stocks in such corporations, creating more money for the government to develop and more economic prosperity for the people, thus even more money.
Science in Russian is nauka, military is voyska, and economics is ekonomica, hence MiNa, MiVo, and MiEk.
Aside, here is a motto for Illuminism: (based on 1984's Ingsoc's motto, sans oxymorons)
Knowledge is Strength - War is Progress - Anti-Revolution is Reactionary
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LOOMIES AESTHETIC
Female Illuminist Assassin, an elite Guard Regiment of IPRR Army, circa 2020. Her face represents what the Russian call the archetype of Slavic Feminism, while the black lines are Techno-Illuminist tattoo
Moscow Arcology, or the Illuminist Monument, finished in 2006. It follows the design philosophy of Eco-Illuminism, very popular in the Illuminist Bloc since 2000
Nytschegard Prole Quarter, circa 2017. Proles are poor by Russian standard, and their quarters are ridden with crimes
Design of Mir Eco City, Yakutsk Millitary Settlement. The city was built in 2010 and completed by 2018. It provides housing for more than 500,000 people and androids, and equipped with automatic farming using aeroponics.
Edit: Illuminist Music example (Avant Garde Classical Music)
Female Illuminist Assassin, an elite Guard Regiment of IPRR Army, circa 2020. Her face represents what the Russian call the archetype of Slavic Feminism, while the black lines are Techno-Illuminist tattoo
Moscow Arcology, or the Illuminist Monument, finished in 2006. It follows the design philosophy of Eco-Illuminism, very popular in the Illuminist Bloc since 2000
Nytschegard Prole Quarter, circa 2017. Proles are poor by Russian standard, and their quarters are ridden with crimes
Design of Mir Eco City, Yakutsk Millitary Settlement. The city was built in 2010 and completed by 2018. It provides housing for more than 500,000 people and androids, and equipped with automatic farming using aeroponics.
Edit: Illuminist Music example (Avant Garde Classical Music)
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Yes it is. Cyberpunk is very likely given that the Iluminist were going to push industrialization hard and their libertarian economy would disenfranchise many people; while Ecopunk would born out of the catastrophic environmental destruction due to the RU/NUSA and Cokies playing in the tropical environment, which usually impacts the cold region at the greatest extent , and appeal to Illuminist agenda of Futurism and Eternal Progress.
Cyberfunk, my friend. The guiding design aesthetic of Yankeeland in the Pinnacle Future! Bell-bottoms and corporate corruption, shaggy hair and neo-noir as far as the eye can see!
Did we ever get the other half of the last chapter of TUF? I think it was a summary of Africa and Asia by 1937.