TL-191 Uniform, weapons and equipment of the Secondary Combatants.
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Lol! I just made an alternate version of this rifle, not for this thread though, just for fun, was going to post it in the alternate weapons thread as an alternate design to the Walther G-43.
Here's one gun that I can see existing in TL-191, the General Liu Rifle
Still a work in process, want to shortened the barrel a little more and change the muzzle.
A photograph of the Quebecois destroyer Trois-Rivieres, circa 1942.
In 1921, the Union Navy as a gift to the fledgling Quebecois Navy three destroyers of the O'Brien class. Which were the USS Nicholson DD-52 (renamed to Renard D-1), USS Winslow DD-53 (renamed Loup D-2), and USS Cushing DD-55 (renamed Ours D-3). These three destroyers would serve the Quebecois Navy until 1945 when they were decommissioned due to their age. In 1938, the Union Navy would transfer another 5 destroyers, which were the Caldwell class USS Gwin DD-71 (renamed Saguenay D-4), the Wickes class USS Kimberley DD-80 (renamed Trois-Rivieres D-5), USS Hazelwood DD-107 (renamed Saint-Jerome D-6), and the Clemson class ships USS Laub DD-263 (renamed Joliette D-7), and USS Litchfield DD-336 (renamed Matane D-8). These destroyers served throughout the Second Great War with the Quebecois Navy serving the roles of patrolling the Saint Laurence River and escorting merchant ships going in and out of the river. The Destroyer Saguenay would be notable for sinking the Confederate submarine CSS Anglefish while the latter ship was attacking a convoy into the Gulf of Saint Laurence on 22nd September, 1941 (which the former ship was escorting.) After the end of the war in 1947, the remaining Pre-War destroyers would be decommissioned and replaced by three ships from the Edsall class of Escort Destroyer.
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I'd imagine the Japanese having all of their aircraft and barrels being similar to what they had during OTL's WWII.
Two Postwar Japanese AFVs
Type 8 Chi-To Medium Barrel, which is armed with a 100mm Type 7 Main Gun
And a Type 11 Ho-Ke Infantry Fighting Vehicle, which is armed with two 7.7mm MGs and a 37mm AT gun.
Type 8 Chi-To Medium Barrel, which is armed with a 100mm Type 7 Main Gun
And a Type 11 Ho-Ke Infantry Fighting Vehicle, which is armed with two 7.7mm MGs and a 37mm AT gun.
Star Si35 Submachine-Gun: 35 Round Box Magazine
Originally a Spanish built submachine-gun, the Si35 would be purchased with 12,000 units by the French Government for the Milice Francaise in 1940. Another 3,900 guns would be purchased by the British for the Royal Navy in 1942 for both the Royal Marines and for ship crews.
Originally a Spanish built submachine-gun, the Si35 would be purchased with 12,000 units by the French Government for the Milice Francaise in 1940. Another 3,900 guns would be purchased by the British for the Royal Navy in 1942 for both the Royal Marines and for ship crews.
VERY late reply, but considering the divisions of Czech weapons manufacture (and geography: Moravia was an Austrian Provence) that might end up in Austrian hands rather than German.I could see the Germans developing something like the CZECH BRNO MODEL ZK420-S.
Very nice! I see you're using a variation of my Austro-Hungarian Roundel. I like that this isn't just a recolored Messerschmitt or Heinkel design, i've seen too many of those.
The list of smalls arms of the Austro-Hungarian Forces
Pistols
Walther P-38 - 9x19mm. Supplied in their thousands during SGW to Austria-Hungary to compensate for the lack of modern pistols.
FEG M. 1937/37M "Femaru" - .380 ACP. Standard issue pistol for KuK Austrian and Joint Army Barrel Crews and Pilots and Standard Issue pistol for the Hungarian Army from 1937 all the way to the 1960s.
FEG M. 1929/29M - .380 ACP. Standard issue pistol for KuK Austrian and Joint Army Barrel Crews and Pilots and Navy Ship Crews and Standard Issue pistol for the Hungarian Army from 1929 all the way to the 1960s.
Steyr-Hahn M. 1912 - 9x23mm. Standard issue pistol for the KuK Armed Forces during both Great Wars before being replaced by the M. 1950 pistol (which is a licensed copy of the Swiss SIG P 220.)
Roth-Steyr M. 1907 - 9x23mm. Standard issue for the KuK Army during the First Great War, but was mostly withdrawn to 2nd Line units, the Navy, and the Police during the SGW.
Dreyse M1907 - .32ACP. Purchased in their thousands during the FGW for Front Line units and later used by pilots and barrel crews during the SGW.
Frommer Stop - .32ACP. Used by the Strumtruppe of the KuK Army during the First Great War, ultimately being used by 2nd Line Units and the Police during the SGW.
Mauser C96 - 7.63x25mm. Purchased in their thousands during the FGW for Front Line units and later used by the Police, Navy, and 2nd Line units during the SGW.
Rifles
Steyr-Mauser M. 1922 - 7.92x57mm. Standard issue service rifle for the KuK Austrian Army and Navy during the Second Great War with a total of 4.3 million rifles produced between 1922 and 1951. Also some saw service with the KuK Joint Forces during the conflict.
FEG 32M - 8x56mmR. Standard issue rifle for the KuK Hungarian Armed Forces during the Second Great War with a total of 1,045,000 rifles being produced between 1932 and 1943.
FEG 42M - 7.92x57mm. A modification of the 32M service rifle which included a turned down bolt, Mauser style magazine, and re-chambered for 8mm Mauser for logistical reasons. Around 2 Million produced between 1942 and 1949.
Steyr-Mannlicher M. 95/34 /31M - 8x56mmR. The mainstay rifle of the KuK Joint Army and secondary service rifle for the Hungarian Army during the SGW as well as being the main rifle for KuK rear area troops. Essentially a conversion of the older M. 95 long rifles.
Steyr-Mannlicher M. 1895 - 8x50mmR. The standard service rifle with the Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces during the FGW and issued to 2nd Line Units during the SGW.
Brno M. 1934 - 7.92x57mm. The standard self loading rifle for the KuK Austrian forces (though mainly given to their Elite Troops such as the Kaiserjager) during the SGW.
M. 1925 - 7.92x57mm. The standard issue rifle for the KuK Mountain Troops and also for it's Police forces.
SMGs
Steyr-Solothurn MP. 1934 - 9x23mm. Standard SMG for both the KuK Austrian and Joint Armies which it's high quality of manufacture made it called the "Rolls Royce of SMGs." Production of the gun would be discontinued in 1943 due to it's high cost, but would be used on well into the 1970s.
MP. 1938 - 9x19mm (OTL ZK-383.) The mainstay weapon of the KuK's mountain troops, the MP. 1938 featured a bi-pod, which made it convenient as a support weapon.
MP. 1942 - 9x19mm (OTL Orita M1941.) A simple weapon intended to replace the MP. 1934 from production, the MP. 1942 would prove to a popular weapon with the troops of the Austro-Hungarian Army.
Danuvia 36M/42M - 9x25mm. The standard SMG for the Hungarian Forces during the SGW, proved to be a prized weapon due to it's potent cartridge.
Suomi KP/31 - 9x19mm. 25,000 guns would be purchased by Austria-Hungary from Finland in 1940 and would proved to be somewhat popular with their troops.
MGs.
MG. 1926 - 7.92x57mm (Hungarian version chambered for 8x56mmR.) Standard LMG for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
MG-34 - 7.92x57mm. Supplied by the Germans during the SGW.
MG. 1937 - 7.92x57mm (OTL ZB-53.) Standard vehicle and heavy machine-gun for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
MG. 1932 - 7.92x57mm (OTL ZB-50.) Standard vehicle and heavy machine-gun for the KuK Armed Forces before being supplanted for production by the MG. 1937.
Schwarzelose M. 07/12/24 / 07/12/30M - 7.92x57mm or 8x56mmR. A modernized version of the Schwarzlose M. 07/12 HMG of FGW vintage.
SMG. 1935 - 15x104mm. Standard large caliber machine-gun of the KuK Armed Forces.
Schwarzelose MG. 1934 - 7.92x57mm. Standard aircraft machine-gun for the KuK Army Air Forces until later in the war.
Anti Barrel Weapons
Solothurn S18-100 - 20mm. The standard anti-barrel rifle for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
RPzB-54. About 128,000 of these Panzerschrecks would be supplied to the KuK Army from Germany.
Pistols
Walther P-38 - 9x19mm. Supplied in their thousands during SGW to Austria-Hungary to compensate for the lack of modern pistols.
FEG M. 1937/37M "Femaru" - .380 ACP. Standard issue pistol for KuK Austrian and Joint Army Barrel Crews and Pilots and Standard Issue pistol for the Hungarian Army from 1937 all the way to the 1960s.
FEG M. 1929/29M - .380 ACP. Standard issue pistol for KuK Austrian and Joint Army Barrel Crews and Pilots and Navy Ship Crews and Standard Issue pistol for the Hungarian Army from 1929 all the way to the 1960s.
Steyr-Hahn M. 1912 - 9x23mm. Standard issue pistol for the KuK Armed Forces during both Great Wars before being replaced by the M. 1950 pistol (which is a licensed copy of the Swiss SIG P 220.)
Roth-Steyr M. 1907 - 9x23mm. Standard issue for the KuK Army during the First Great War, but was mostly withdrawn to 2nd Line units, the Navy, and the Police during the SGW.
Dreyse M1907 - .32ACP. Purchased in their thousands during the FGW for Front Line units and later used by pilots and barrel crews during the SGW.
Frommer Stop - .32ACP. Used by the Strumtruppe of the KuK Army during the First Great War, ultimately being used by 2nd Line Units and the Police during the SGW.
Mauser C96 - 7.63x25mm. Purchased in their thousands during the FGW for Front Line units and later used by the Police, Navy, and 2nd Line units during the SGW.
Rifles
Steyr-Mauser M. 1922 - 7.92x57mm. Standard issue service rifle for the KuK Austrian Army and Navy during the Second Great War with a total of 4.3 million rifles produced between 1922 and 1951. Also some saw service with the KuK Joint Forces during the conflict.
FEG 32M - 8x56mmR. Standard issue rifle for the KuK Hungarian Armed Forces during the Second Great War with a total of 1,045,000 rifles being produced between 1932 and 1943.
FEG 42M - 7.92x57mm. A modification of the 32M service rifle which included a turned down bolt, Mauser style magazine, and re-chambered for 8mm Mauser for logistical reasons. Around 2 Million produced between 1942 and 1949.
Steyr-Mannlicher M. 95/34 /31M - 8x56mmR. The mainstay rifle of the KuK Joint Army and secondary service rifle for the Hungarian Army during the SGW as well as being the main rifle for KuK rear area troops. Essentially a conversion of the older M. 95 long rifles.
Steyr-Mannlicher M. 1895 - 8x50mmR. The standard service rifle with the Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces during the FGW and issued to 2nd Line Units during the SGW.
Brno M. 1934 - 7.92x57mm. The standard self loading rifle for the KuK Austrian forces (though mainly given to their Elite Troops such as the Kaiserjager) during the SGW.
M. 1925 - 7.92x57mm. The standard issue rifle for the KuK Mountain Troops and also for it's Police forces.
SMGs
Steyr-Solothurn MP. 1934 - 9x23mm. Standard SMG for both the KuK Austrian and Joint Armies which it's high quality of manufacture made it called the "Rolls Royce of SMGs." Production of the gun would be discontinued in 1943 due to it's high cost, but would be used on well into the 1970s.
MP. 1938 - 9x19mm (OTL ZK-383.) The mainstay weapon of the KuK's mountain troops, the MP. 1938 featured a bi-pod, which made it convenient as a support weapon.
MP. 1942 - 9x19mm (OTL Orita M1941.) A simple weapon intended to replace the MP. 1934 from production, the MP. 1942 would prove to a popular weapon with the troops of the Austro-Hungarian Army.
Danuvia 36M/42M - 9x25mm. The standard SMG for the Hungarian Forces during the SGW, proved to be a prized weapon due to it's potent cartridge.
Suomi KP/31 - 9x19mm. 25,000 guns would be purchased by Austria-Hungary from Finland in 1940 and would proved to be somewhat popular with their troops.
MGs.
MG. 1926 - 7.92x57mm (Hungarian version chambered for 8x56mmR.) Standard LMG for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
MG-34 - 7.92x57mm. Supplied by the Germans during the SGW.
MG. 1937 - 7.92x57mm (OTL ZB-53.) Standard vehicle and heavy machine-gun for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
MG. 1932 - 7.92x57mm (OTL ZB-50.) Standard vehicle and heavy machine-gun for the KuK Armed Forces before being supplanted for production by the MG. 1937.
Schwarzelose M. 07/12/24 / 07/12/30M - 7.92x57mm or 8x56mmR. A modernized version of the Schwarzlose M. 07/12 HMG of FGW vintage.
SMG. 1935 - 15x104mm. Standard large caliber machine-gun of the KuK Armed Forces.
Schwarzelose MG. 1934 - 7.92x57mm. Standard aircraft machine-gun for the KuK Army Air Forces until later in the war.
Anti Barrel Weapons
Solothurn S18-100 - 20mm. The standard anti-barrel rifle for the KuK Armed Forces during the SGW.
RPzB-54. About 128,000 of these Panzerschrecks would be supplied to the KuK Army from Germany.
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Polish 9TP Light Barrel. The backbone of the Polish Army's armored forces in the early days of the Second Great War.
A Douglas DB-7 Bomber of the 37th Bomb Wing of the Ottoman Air Force on the Palestinian Front, circa June of 1942. In 1939, the Ottoman Empire had evaluated Douglas' new bomber, the A-20. Impressed by the new design, the Ottoman Air Force would then place an order for 158 airframes for it's Air Force to replace it's aging fleet of Dornier Do 11 bombers. By May of 1941, the order would be completely delivered. Until early 1944, the DB-7 would serve the Ottoman Air Force as their standard bomber until it's replacement by newer Dornier and Avia bombers that were supplied to the Ottomans.
I can see the Russians having this barrel, the T-46 (which in my headcanon is an analog for the BT series) alongside their copy of the Vickers 6 Ton, being the T-26.
Here's a some alternate Soviet "tanks" I made for the Alt Hist-AFV thread, they could work as barrels too I'd think.
I can see the Russians having this barrel, the T-46 (which in my headcanon is an analog for the BT series) alongside their copy of the Vickers 6 Ton, being the T-26.
My illustration of an Imperial Russian Soldier with his Tokarev SVT-40 Rifle during the Winter of 1941-42 in Eastern Poland.
A pair of Austro-Hungarian Fighters, Second Great War. Inspired by the work of S. Marlowski.
As the Central Powers were victorious, it stands to reason Anthony Fokker would have remained in German service, developing planes for the Luftwaffe and by extension the Austrians. IRL Austra-Hungary did have some indigenous aircraft development, with companies like Lohner designing prototypes during WWI, and one could foresee them retaining that ability following a Central Powers victory.
Cool designs, you should post em on the https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-history-combat-aircraft.457446/
The Russian T-46 series of light tanks.
T-46 obr. 1935, basic variant which was developed as a T-26 combined with the speediness of the BT series.
T-46A, a support variant of the T-46 armed with a 76mm infantry gun.
T-46 obr. 1939, an upgrade over the obr. 1935 model with a new suspension, engine, turret, and transmission, was the standard light tank of the Imperial Russian Army during the early and mid war period of the SGW.
T-46 obr. 1943, which was a 1939 variant which was upgraded with new armor plating an a 76mm main gun.
SU-76-2, a self propelled gun variant of the T-46 featuring a ZiS-3 field gun.
BTR-46, a limited production APC variant which only saw some action in the later stages of the SGW and in the Siberian Conflict against Japan.
T-46 obr. 1935, basic variant which was developed as a T-26 combined with the speediness of the BT series.
T-46A, a support variant of the T-46 armed with a 76mm infantry gun.
T-46 obr. 1939, an upgrade over the obr. 1935 model with a new suspension, engine, turret, and transmission, was the standard light tank of the Imperial Russian Army during the early and mid war period of the SGW.
T-46 obr. 1943, which was a 1939 variant which was upgraded with new armor plating an a 76mm main gun.
SU-76-2, a self propelled gun variant of the T-46 featuring a ZiS-3 field gun.
BTR-46, a limited production APC variant which only saw some action in the later stages of the SGW and in the Siberian Conflict against Japan.
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