Alternatively, I like the idea of a name that references its huge size, like the World Ocean or the Ultimate Ocean.
“Ultimate Ocean”, such an epically fitting name.
Alternatively, I like the idea of a name that references its huge size, like the World Ocean or the Ultimate Ocean.
What are the demographics of Greek-speaking peoples anyway? I figure everyone from Greece to Bulgaria must speak it as a first language by now, but how's that spread to Anatolia and other territories?I wonder if the population of Greek speaking Christians in Rhomania in the east will eclipse the population of the mainland in the future if they're able to conquer most of Island asia
So i know western anatolia is extremely greek speaking, i think it gets a bit more Turkish/Kurdish/Armenian as you go east. Now the Levant is unfortunately being ethnically cleansed and is likely to be almost fully greek (in the coastal areas at least) after "The Great Crime" has finishedWhat are the demographics of Greek-speaking peoples anyway? I figure everyone from Greece to Bulgaria must speak it as a first language by now, but how's that spread to Anatolia and other territories?
Oh, absolutely. It hurts to see it but it adds some genuineness I think a lot of TLs either ignore, justify, or glamorize. It's especially tragic on account of how tolerant the Empire used to be here.It's a shame that the Rhomans are resorting to ethnic cleansing although they do have a long history of doing such a thing. It really grounds this tl into reality showing how even as the "protagonist" the Rhoman empire will still commit despicable crimes as most empires do.
There's nothing shameful on what Rome is doing. If anything this is just payback for the 6th century disaster. Besides the people their cleansing will never really accept Roman rule. Better to wipe them out than have them come back with a vengeful intent to retake their lands and killing the new settlers.It's a shame that the Rhomans are resorting to ethnic cleansing although they do have a long history of doing such a thing. It really grounds this tl into reality showing how even as the "protagonist" the Rhoman empire will still commit despicable crimes as most empires do.
Let's not blame a conquered people for being conquered or try to justify Roman atrocities.There's nothing shameful on what Rome is doing. If anything this is just payback for the 6th century disaster. Besides the people their cleansing will never really accept Roman rule. Better to wipe them out than have them come back with a vengeful intent to retake their lands and killing the new settlers.
If you're gonna start a war you better finish it in the swiftest way as possible. There can be no peace with people who will always revolt. Thats why you gotta exterminate the problem while you still have the strength to do so. You don't want to be caught out in a moment of weakness..
After all we know from history just how devastating it can be..
Well I they don't hold Mosul-Erbil yet but the area is home to a lot of non-Arab populations that aren't considered problematic. Remember it's only the Arab Sunni populations they have an issue with, since this is what the second or third time they have played fifth colomn? So Sunni Kurds in Mosul or Alawite Arabs in Syria aren't considered an issue, especially since the Rhomans are paradoxically a more tolerant overlord than the previous or possible Sunni overlords.This ethnic cleansing is coming from Syria-palastinea to mosul-erbil right? Dunno how much the Georgians will ethnically cleanse the area but I guess it's more moderate than the Romans. But if they really want to hold a sizable chunk of some prosperous northern persian lands they gotta cleanse it thoroughly.
IIRC B444 said the Albanians mostly went the way of Arvanites and are bilingual and much more assimilated into a 'Greek' identity.So i know western anatolia is extremely greek speaking, i think it gets a bit more Turkish/Kurdish/Armenian as you go east. Now the Levant is unfortunately being ethnically cleansed and is likely to be almost fully greek (in the coastal areas at least) after "The Great Crime" has finished
There's also quite a few people who speak Albanian in its respective region if I recall
There's nothing shameful on what Rome is doing.
If anything this is just payback for the 6th century disaster.
Besides the people their cleansing will never really accept Roman rule. Better to wipe them out than have them come back with a vengeful intent to retake their lands and killing the new settlers.
If you're gonna start a war you better finish it in the swiftest way as possible. There can be no peace with people who will always revolt. Thats why you gotta exterminate the problem while you still have the strength to do so. You don't want to be caught out in a moment of weakness..
After all we know from history just how devastating it can be..
Honestly regardless of what long term political benefits you can get from ethnic cleansing it can never be justified. Earlier in this tl Rhome was able to coexist and even prosper with its muslim inhabitants. This is called the great crime for a reason innocent people are being robbed of their lives
Ah ok thanks for the info! I'm interested on how Rhoman historians will look back on this periodJust a small nitpick though this time is undoubtedly ethnic cleansing and likely will reach the level of genocide once it’s all said and done the Roman actions in the Levant up to that point were not the “great crime” but were a series of actions referred to I think as “the sundering”.
Honestly Rhomania in this time period is going through a grim dark phase and I am horrified and intrigued on finding out what exactly Rome will do that qualifies as the “Great Crime”. A credit to @Basileus444 story telling and world building.
To me the great crime can’t be a series of actions or even an organized genocide over a period of years; I feel like it will be something done that is not realized right away as it happens behind the front lines of the war and is only discovered once the land is given back in a peace treaty.
It'd help if you let us know what the last thing you remembered from the TL was. With the threadmarks system you can easily go back and read more here. The TL is currently in a 'world interlude' of sorts after a big war for the Rhomans in the first half of the 1630s.so i haven’t really had the chance to check this story in a while and it seems I missed quite a bit of the timeline.
can I get a quick breakdown of what’s going on in the story?
I have read this since the start of 2019 basically I’ve missed a whole year Of this storyIt'd help if you let us know what the last thing you remembered from the TL was. With the threadmarks system you can easily go back and read more here. The TL is currently in a 'world interlude' of sorts after a big war for the Rhomans in the first half of the 1630s.
So you don't remember an event?I have read this since the start of 2019 basically I’ve missed a whole year Of this story
that is correct I do not remember an eventSo you don't remember an event?
Here's reader mode that will only show you the threadmarks: