Apparently they are shown as being separate on a map in a German elementary school classroom. Whether or not they were actually separate in reality is a different issue. It makes sense to have the Germans treat them as a single country both from the perspectives of administrative efficiency and punitive measure. Both countries lost the war and lost their independence. Canada lost the monarchy and the US(and probably Canada) is losing at least millions in tribute to Germany every year so what reason does Germany have to deal with the two as separate countries other than as a cynical nod to a political reality that no longer exists? The map could be a bit of propaganda...
I think that, with the original source material showing Canada separate from the US, that's probably the reality on the ground. Some sort of knock-off BUF (Canadian Union of Fascists maybe?) in charge of the "Federation of Canada," maybe? Taking the narrative that the monarchy was part of what was wrong with Canada? IDK. Open for suggestions there.
So we all know the infamous case of Japanese Americans being interned in the US during WW2. It is less well known but some German and Italian Americans were also interned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Italian_Americans
ITTL however since the US stayed out of WW2 this didn't happen but what was the overall experience of Japanese, German and Italian Americans up to WW3? How did they fare in the years after the war?
The internment of Japanese, German, and Italian - Americans all took place after the US got involved in WW2, so post-1941. ITTL, that would never have happened, and WWIII doesn't last long enough for anything like that to occur.
I think you would see those communities facing suspicion from some in the US, while others would see them as a way to build ties with those countries and keep America at peace.
That said...the Germans and Italians would probably have an easier time of things just because they're "white," while the Japanese would still be subject to Americans' well established anti-Asian racism.
Eckener did have FDR dying in 1932 as the POD of this world, so its more than possible that Codreanu and Balbo could be alive after 1938 and 1940 respectively.
I could also see Codreanu becoming leader of Romania after the death of Ioan Antonescu. In this world it is possible that Iron Guard were not purged from Antonescu's government in 1941. I could also see the Arrow Cross Party taking over Hungary after the death of Miklos Horthy.
Exactly. The POD is 1932, so there is plenty of wiggle room with WWII itself. In the TL I wrote up, France falls earlier, and Dunkirk is a disaster. King George VI is killed in the Blitz at the end of September 1940. So that war is subtly different early on and becomes more different the longer it goes, so that by 1945 we see Moscow falling and the Russians in retreat, with the first atomic weapon used in the summer, with Hitler declaring victory in August.
Speaking of Russia....Turtledove is VERY vague about what happened to them and what their current status was as of 2010. There's some mention that they'd been "pushed back beyond the Urals," but that's about it. I briefly included a rump Russian government centered in Omsk surviving post-1945, but not much detail there. Thoughts?
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Also, trying to map out where this sequel story will go. Here are some "big ideas" I've been pondering and would welcome some help fleshing them out before I get into writing the details:
- Heinrich & Lise: I'm going to have Heinrich transferred to the USA, to give us a better first-person POV to what happens. So, what DOES happen?
- The New Federalists are going to capture control of the Presidency. They are a "moderate" party ideologically. Not out and out fascist like the FJP, but not wanting to change things overnight back to true democracy (as opposed to the Liberty Party).
- The USA's new President is going to be outspoken about wanting to change America's status from "occupied" to "member of the Empire"
- This is going to rattle the Wehrmacht, which opposes a strong United States, whereas Buckliger is more open to discussing America's demands
- Alicia: She's going to make contact with the Jewish community in Switzerland, along with being the primary European POV
- Her meeting the Jewish community is still a little vague in my head...just a scene where she stumbles upon a Synagogue having Saturday services. I'm not sure exactly how this plays out, especially with regard to the security police. How heavily would they be trailing her?
- In Germany, there is the "grand reform bill" that is being debated.
- 10 year term-limit on the position of the Fuhrer
- Revives the Reichskanzler position separate from the Fuhrer, with a sort of "head of state/head of government" split between the two.
- Opens up some level of greater speech and press expression
- Does the reform bill pass?
- If so, what's the fallout?
- If not, what's the fallout? I would imagine that would be more destabilizing, with people taking to the streets, so it seems less likely.
- My gut says: the bill passes, but there are plenty of detractors. Once America starts causing issues after the 2020 election and the new non-fascist is in office in 2021, those detractors start to speak out.
- Following my gut... America takes one step too far in the eyes of Wehrmacht officials, and so the hardliners, working with the Army, force a coup to remove Buckliger and to clamp down on parts of the reform bill.
- This causes a full-blown uprising in Germany, and at this point, the stronger constituent parts of the Empire rise up, ostensibly in support of Buckliger but really in support of their own independence.
- The world comes to the brink of a fourth world war. Japan backs the reformists (helps take Germany down a peg or three in strength - though there are several in their own government that realize this could strengthen dissent within their own Empire). This forces the Wehrmacht coup leaders to the table.
So again, this is a rough sketch of where I am at currently, but very much open to changing things. Definitely wanting feedback here in order to tell a good story.