Crazy Boris
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I have to wonder, why was Bremen not included in these proposals? Was it just because it was in the US occupation zone instead of the UK occupation zone?
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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I have to wonder, why was Bremen not included in these proposals? Was it just because it was in the US occupation zone instead of the UK occupation zone?
Yup, it was because it was part of the US zone. Modern proposals for merging Lower Saxony and Bremen exist, but pre-1949 there were no proposals to merge areas which weren't part of the same occupation zone, with the one exception of Bremerhaven, which actually got added from Lower Saxony to Bremen in 1947 after having been detached from it in 1939 (though it was also slightly expanded by merging with a few additional towns).
Actually the second proposal was supposed to have Bremen as part of Weser Ems. Good catch. I'll fix it now.
Having the persephone Tajks in such a polity in the long term is interesting.
You are applying logic and reason to ultra-racist imperialists?
If they were going to group the Tatars and Bashkirs with Central Asia because Turks....
Fair.
Though the Tajiks lived in the region commonly referred to as Turkistan, despite not being Turks to begin with.
That is true, but it's not as though there weren't already borders, however contrived, for a Tajik polity.
Skallagrim
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Remember, this is a plan from the desk of Alfred Rosenberg. You know, Alfred "Aryans may have descended from an advanced Antediluvian civilisation, and also something-something Holy Grail hidden by the Cathars, you guys!" Rosenberg. That guy. Even Himmler didn't read his book.
His understanding of how ethnic groups related to each other was... limited.
When even Himmler thinks you are too weird...
We are reaching levels of crazy that should be impossible.
Didn't the Nazis also classified Bulgarians as Turks as an excuse of cooperating with Slavs who they perceived as sub-human? they did the same with the Croats, saying that they were Germanic.
Partially the successor of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, The Caucasus Emirate was the aim of the jihadist group of the same name, who wished to expel Russian influence from the region and establish an Islamic state in the region. The group existed from 2007 until 2015, when all but two very small remnant factions joined up with ISIL.
Can we acknowledge Islamic State's laughable plans to conquer everything from Iberia to Indonesia? Baghdadi was insane with his ideas.
Didn't ISIS just want a worldwide caliphate as a world government? just paint the entire map in black and we're done.
Also, did the real Chechen Republic of Ichkeria also include Ingushetia, or just Chechnya?
Just Chechnya as far as I know, but the emirate just decided "Hey, let's take everything and redraw the borders!"
About Imperial Japan's extremely optimistic plans, does anyone knows what is the source of Japan's "Government-General of Central America"? most ASB Axis Victory maps portray all of Central America and the Caribbean as Japanese-controlled territories, but I have a hard time believing this even by WWII Japan standards, did they actually plan that?
Is this mentioned somewhere in Visions of Victory by Gerhard Weinberg? I do not have the book yet but it is apparently a great book to see the plans of the Axis for use in fictional worldbuilding and mapmaking.
The only source that mentions it is this museum website straight from 2008: http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/G/r/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere.htm
There is also this interesting map from a 2010 DeviantArt post mentioned on a thread here also from 2010, it doesn't seems to be fanart to me, so not sure of which source it comes from, the only other internet site featuring this map is some sketchy Korean website, but I obviously don't speak Korean.
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Is this mentioned somewhere in Visions of Victory by Gerhard Weinberg? I do not have the book yet but it is apparently a great book to see the plans of the Axis for use in fictional worldbuilding and mapmaking.
The only source that mentions it is this museum website straight from 2008: http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/G/r/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere.htm
There is also this interesting map from a 2010 DeviantArt post mentioned on a thread here also from 2010, it doesn't seems to be fanart to me, so not sure of which source it comes from, the only other internet site featuring this map is some sketchy Korean website, but I obviously don't speak Korean.
Greater East Asian Sphere by MorganHauser-2010 on DeviantArt
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The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere...what was it really supposed to be like?
Okay, we can find tons of information about what Hitler (and to a lesser extent Mussolini) envisioned for Europe and (again to a lesser extent) the wider world. But when it comes to Asia and Japan's plans it all still seems rather sketchy and at times contradictory. We all know that Japan...
www.alternatehistory.com
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Looks an awful lot like the Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus
seems similar to the Misak-ı Millî, the last six decisions made by the Ottoman Parliament which set out what they wanted to happen to the state's remaining unoccupied territories and border territories with Turkish populations. notably this doesn't include nearly as much of the Balkans but does at least keep the posibility of retaining a lot more of the Levant and Arabia (in the map from Wikipedia below, the hatched areas' status was to be determined by referendum).
I believe I actually made a WorldA recreation of this a while ago. should take another look at that, see if it should be revised at all.
ST15RM
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the wikipedia article on the geacps mentions it.About Imperial Japan's extremely optimistic plans, does anyone knows what is the source of Japan's "Government-General of Central America"? most ASB Axis Victory maps portray all of Central America and the Caribbean as Japanese-controlled territories, but I have a hard time believing this even by WWII Japan standards, did they actually plan that?
Is this mentioned somewhere in Visions of Victory by Gerhard Weinberg? I do not have the book yet but it is apparently a great book to see the plans of the Axis for use in fictional worldbuilding and mapmaking.
The only source that mentions it is this museum website straight from 2008: http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/G/r/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere.htm
There is also this interesting map from a 2010 DeviantArt post mentioned on a thread here also from 2010, it doesn't seems to be fanart to me, so not sure of which source it comes from, the only other internet site featuring this map is some sketchy Korean website, but I obviously don't speak Korean.
Greater East Asian Sphere by MorganHauser-2010 on DeviantArt
The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere...what was it really supposed to be like?
Okay, we can find tons of information about what Hitler (and to a lesser extent Mussolini) envisioned for Europe and (again to a lesser extent) the wider world. But when it comes to Asia and Japan's plans it all still seems rather sketchy and at times contradictory. We all know that Japan...www.alternatehistory.com