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The Soviet Union and its sphere of influence in 1958 on the even of Stalin's death. Based on the "Twilight of the Red Tsar" timeline, link here.
 
Man, that timeline ... it’s a real shame it was abandoned. The chapters about the
Second Holocaust
terrified and really moved me.

Great map!
The timeline really shows just how vile and ruthless Stalin is. Sad that many people (especially communists on Reddit) still praise him as a benevolent leader. The timeline was also very interesting with Syndicalism rising to prominence again (I have a soft spot for Syndicalism). Yeah, it is a shame it was abandoned, it was quite a good timeline. I'm actually writing my take on the future of the timeline, i'm around the 1980s by now. Also, thanks for the input!
 

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The timeline really shows just how vile and ruthless Stalin is. Sad that many people (especially communists on Reddit) still praise him as a benevolent leader. The timeline was also very interesting with Syndicalism rising to prominence again (I have a soft spot for Syndicalism). Yeah, it is a shame it was abandoned, it was quite a good timeline. I'm actually writing my take on the future of the timeline, i'm around the 1980s by now. Also, thanks for the input!
Syndicalism? More like Win-dicalism, am I right folks???
 
The Soviet Union and its sphere of influence in 1958 on the even of Stalin's death. Based on the "Twilight of the Red Tsar" timeline, link here.
Nice map but you made some mistakes in names:
Russian SFR - Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
Chisinau - Russian transliteration for this city is "Kishinev"
Donetsk - named in 1924-1961 IOTL "Stalino"
Samara - Soviet name for it is "Kuybyshev"
Orenburg - named in 1938-1957 IOTL "Chkalov"
Almaty - Russian transliteration for this city is "Alma-Ata"
Shymkent - Russian transliteration for this city is "Chimkent"
Bishkek - named in 1924-1991I OTL "Frunze"
Dushanbe - named in 1929-1961 IOTL "Stalinabad"
Urumqi - Russian transliteration for this city is "Urumchi"
Sverdlovsk is not signed on the map
Karelian-Finnish SSR was eliminated only by Khrushchev IOTL
 
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The Soviet Union and its sphere of influence in 1958 on the even of Stalin's death. Based on the "Twilight of the Red Tsar" timeline, link here.
The Soviets never got Svalbard or Bear Island in that timeline. And while I am hesitant to make map suggestions (as in to suggest an entire map in general) I think it would be splendid if someone on here did a map on the Soviets and the various ASSRs that got liquidated. I don’t think it would fit on this map though, as I don’t know if the Soviets officially got rid of some of the ASSRs or just got rid of the people and replaced them with Russians.
 
I'm pretty sure the Canadian far Northern Mainland is wrong; it looks far different from other mountainous regions on the map and going off of memory I'm pretty sure some mountains are missing.

It's missing a lot of mountains in that region. Including, for example, the Alaska Range, home of the tallest mountain in North America.
 
Nice map but you made some mistakes in names:
Russian SFR - Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
Chisinau - Russian transliteration for this city is "Kishinev"
Donetsk - named in 1924-1961 IOTL "Stalino"
Samara - Soviet name for it is "Kuybyshev"
Orenburg - named in 1938-1957 IOTL "Chkalov"
Almaty - Russian transliteration for this city is "Alma-Ata"
Shymkent - Russian transliteration for this city is "Chimkent"
Bishkek - named in 1924-1991I OTL "Frunze"
Dushanbe - named in 1929-1961 IOTL "Stalinabad"
Urumqi - Russian transliteration for this city is "Urumchi"
Sverdlovsk is not signed on the map
Karelian-Finnish SSR was eliminated only by Khrushchev IOTL
Thanks for the feedback! I'll make sure i'll fix that.
 
So much pain and death, one can feel from the map alone.

Great Job IA. Might you do an follow up after Stalin's death, and the collapse of the USSR and Co?
I just finished a map of the PRC after its collapse in the aftermath of the Sino-Soviet War of 1956. I will be doing a map of the Warsaw Pact rebellions of the 60s and a separate one of the Soviet Civil War.
 
Finally finished my map (except islands)! And I have to do my key and annotations, but you get the gist.

Basically it portrays a world in 2060 that diverged from ours in the 1980s. I was influenced by Zompist/B_Munro's "The Fire Shall Try," but I've put in a lot of other ideas, both tried-and-true (cyberpunk thalassocratic Japan) and my own originals (Hausa-Fulani eco-Islamist superstate and sphere).

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Finally finished my map (except islands)! And I have to do my key and annotations, but you get the gist.

Basically it portrays a world in 2060 that diverged from ours in the 1980s. I was influenced by Zompist/B_Munro's "The Fire Shall Try," but I've put in a lot of other ideas, both tried-and-true (cyberpunk thalassocratic Japan) and my own originals (Hausa-Fulani eco-Islamist superstate and sphere).

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How did Greece end up in Turkey's sphere of influence/alliance network?
 
They bankrupted a few more times, the residual EU gave up on them, and Turkey stepped in with hefty loan offers and less-than-benevolent terms, both carrot and stick.

Given all of the...historical baggage...I'm a little surprised that someone else, like, say, the rump-USSR/Communist Russia, didn't prove to be a more...politically acceptable...choice.
 
Given all of the...historical baggage...I'm a little surprised that someone else, like, say, the rump-USSR/Communist Russia, didn't prove to be a more...politically acceptable...choice.

Hahaha true, and I guess I could edit it to have it in Russia's sphere instead.

Though in this timeline, Turkey is an ascending regional powerhouse, and Russia is a decrepit former-superpower with a strong military and revanchist dreams...but also has a resource-cursed economy and political system, and is in the throes of multifactorial demographic collapse.
 
Just my usual cross-posting from the MotF. Do tell me what you think. I guess the map is not the best, but the setting is weird enough for my liking.

Metro 2033: Leningrad Saint Petersburg's Edition

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So, almost certainly fuelled by my claustrophobic feeling, being stuck home in quarantine, which gave me the time to actually do this map after failing several others, and for longing for better days last summer when I lived the good life in Saint Petersburg, and going through the photos I took in its Soviet-era subway stations, I came up with this idea that takes the setting of the Metro 2033 series and thinks of what might have been happening in Moscow's younger sibling. If this has been explored in the series, I apologise, I never did read it all. First book was pretty neat, though.

Anyway, what you came here for: there are three major alliances forming around the network, mostly out of common foes and shared ideologies. Namely, there are Monarchical states, which take up much of the Tsarist imagery of the city, Socialist states, that take up the blantat Communist imagery spread around the subway and, let's be honest, making it more of a weird cult than any proper economic system, and finally Merchant states, remnants of the oligarchy that most recently ruled the city and of the more modern touches of Russian culture present there.

Let's look at the Ententes one by one:

The Petty-Tsars:

Admiralty of Hermitagia: Governed by an Admiral (no relationship to the sea whatsoever), they rule from the station that once served the center of the city, with a magnificent throne room under a mural representing the founding of their city. They worship the very image of Peter the Great and use the Naval Insignia of the Russian Navy as their flag. The most powerful of the monarchies, their lineage is the most coveted when it comes to marriages. Although relatively small in station numbers, their power comes from their centrally-located position and their holding of the Sennaya, the greatest station complex in the entire network, holding three diffrent lines and being fiercely fortified

Admiralty of Moskoye: Admittedly, more reasonable to call them an Admiralty than others, since their stations, having once been under the seaport of Saint Petersburg, are very sea-themed. The Admiral, ruling from the throne made of two anchors in the Hall of Primoskaya, is a close ally to the Admiral of Hermitagia, frequently exchanging marriages. They are also their own trade route to the other states, with Moskoye having large aquaculture industries in their flooded canals

Petrogradskaya: A small monarchy, their prince rules from Chyornaya Rechka, at the feet of the stuate of Alexander Pushkin, whom the denizens worship as a Christ-like figure. Little more than a northern march of Hermitagia, they are in almost constant turf wars with their western and northern allies for their territory. They are also common marriage partners to both Admiralties, although considered of lesser stock

Rhomania: There seems to be some crossed wires in the historical development of this State since, while being clearly influenced by their capital, the station of Bukharestskaya, the entire ideology of the state is more to the Roman aspect rather than to the Romanian. Ruling from a station full of purple and golden colours, the local Tsar actually caught up pretty well the entire Byzantine aesthetic, regardless. With no direct contact with the other princes, they are somewhat more inbred than other monarchies, but they do have communications with Hermitagia, with whom they often ally against their common foe at the Hansa, although not with great success, admittedly

The Fun-Size Soviets:

The Socialist Union of Soviets of Leningrad: The most powerful socialist state in the network, this nominally-confederal patchwork of stations is ruled by a Comrade-General from Ploschad Lenina, from where they very much intend to overthrow the feudal and bourgeois states opressing the brethren and bring them the truth of their Lord and Saviour, Lenin, whose mural they worship... very intensely. The Comrade-General position is akin to a High Priesthood, and it is indeed inherited, with all members of the family so far being called either Lenin or Lenina. Accusations of incest are not very rare, either

The Proletaskaya Socialist Workers' Federation: These five Soviet-Stations, ruled by an elected Politburo under the Hammer and Sickle of Proletaskaya, they are perhaps the closest to a socialist state as we would recognise it existing. They are also quite brutal and militant in their beliefs and rationing, seeing their fellow socialist states as degenerate idiots and vowing to crush them as they will crush all other states in the network, starting with the Nevsky Republic, their mortal enemy with whom turf wars are frequent. Around as popular in diplomacy as one would expect

The Soviet Union of Narvskaya: Ruled by a collective of priests statesmen from the outstanding Narvskaya station, they are bound together by their devotion to the beautiful idols they see in the halls of this station, depicting a race of angels that they seek to immitate and please. They don't worship the figures of the workers, of course, nor the hammer and sickle. They worship the image of Stalin they found buried behind their main wall, to which all other holy figures look. Under ellaborate and bloody rituals, they try to please this god they see as so mighty the heathens had had to cover His image

The People's Republic of Elektrosila: Although often quoted as neutrals, as they don't really interact that much with other states, and are generally friendly with The Hansa, their form of government, involving collective ownership of resources, and their Soviet-era imagery, makes one want to place these fine folk here. They worship an image at the hall of their capital, Elektrosila, where a man they identify as Adam interacting with a Atom they imagine is God, under a landmass they imagine ought to be the Earth, and is in fact a map of the Soviet Union. They most ardently wish to reclaim the surface, and mostly pray for their God to return the Earth to His Children

The Cornerstore Merchant Republics:

The Hansa: Simply the most central, the greatest and the wealthiest of all the States, it is ruled from a rather insignificant station by a number of patrician families, but, for all matters beyond defence, it works more as a patchwork of cantons, with each station being ruled by two or three local families, with marriages between them being common. Most trade flowing through the network will eventually go throw here and help their pockets grow, but their enemies are keenly aware of this and have already starting digging their own alternate routes, with even Hermitagia and Leningrad often cooperating for the sake of going over The Hansa

The Freehold of Zenitskaya: The definition of a corporate hellhole. Seriously, they worship the remains of the Gasprom logotips they have around and they name themselves after the Gasprom-owned football team. Their leaders (officially shareholders of the farms and services) are direct descendants of Gasprom corporate leaders who took over this portion of the metropolitan as society collapsed around them. You'd think they'd be meritocratic, but not really, as it is impossible to ascend against the already-installed lords in this almost feudal society, so little are the opportunities to acquire wealth in their confined spaces that haven't already been taken over. Suffice it to say, they like the Hansa, and hope to help them take down the Admiral of Hermitagia so they can expand their markets over to the cantons

The League of Parnas: Perhaps inspired by the themes of nature and Hellenic features present in their stations, integrated with the high-tech design of the subway, this republic decided to go fully into the Hellenic theme, expanding from Parnas into a small association of allied station-republics headed by Parnas, organising for defence and trade and otherwise having a pretty indepedent lifestyle, where a small despot class organises the regime of the lower classes, under some approaches resonant of the Platonic philosopher-kings. They worship the very artwork in their station, with some nomenclature coming from the ancient Hellenic myths, adopted for its own sake. A place that, beyond anything else, is strange to inhabit

The Republic of Nevsky: A close ally of the Hansa, they live in constant turf wars with their Proletaskaya neighbours, with the water canals to the Neva River being a resource that each of the statelets wants for itself. Headed by a few families, mostly empowered with the support and blessing of the Hansa, negotiations are happening towards merging their republic into various cantons of the Hansa, especially as foreign menaces become more troubling
 
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