way too costly.Yeah i Forgot those are still on Civil War..one might be too costly whatever 'win' it
As information, the update will be coming tomorrow or wednesday, i'm already working on it.
way too costly.Yeah i Forgot those are still on Civil War..one might be too costly whatever 'win' it
way too costly.
As information, the update will be coming tomorrow or wednesday, i'm already working on it.
Actually not, it's just that the update is being kinda messy, and i actually replanned it today, so it's taking some time, but you might not wait for too long for it, at least if everything goes as my plans require. Though all this mess up made me plan like the next three chapters so the production from now on will be a lot smoothier.Another illness buddy?
Don't worry. The more thought put on it the better. Also don't be shy of retcons if things get messy in the long run.Actually not, it's just that the update is being kinda messy, and i actually replanned it today, so it's taking some time, but you might not wait for too long for it, at least if everything goes as my plans require. Though all this mess up made me plan like the next three chapters so the production from now on will be a lot smoothier.
No problem buddy, take all the Time you need.Actually not, it's just that the update is being kinda messy, and i actually replanned it today, so it's taking some time, but you might not wait for too long for it, at least if everything goes as my plans require. Though all this mess up made me plan like the next three chapters so the production from now on will be a lot smoothier.
Maybe a 13th Warriors version might not suck?Muslim descriptions of germanic and slavic mythology! I hope i'll be able to insert some of these in a future update or bring an update based at these, since i am not an expert at germanic mythology any help in that matter would be great
Maybe the "Heaven virgins for the martyrs" will be the Valkyries, if not similar to it. Having sexy-ass Germanic/Scandinavian Valkyrie for the martyr beside an express ticket to heaven might attract some vikings and other warriors to convert.[15]: Muslim descriptions of germanic and slavic mythology! I hope i'll be able to insert some of these in a future update or bring an update based at these, since i am not an expert at germanic mythology any help in that matter would be great
Heh, we might see the Scandinavians preferring to convert to Muslim rather than Christian because of some similarities they share. Both being traders, promised heaven for dying in glory (also sweet virgins), and opportunities for land and loot for the adventurous (if you're the first to convert that means your neighbors are pagans so...)Maybe the "Heaven virgins for the martyrs" will be the Valkyries, if not similar to it. Having sexy-ass Germanic/Scandinavian Valkyrie for the martyr beside an express ticket to heaven might attract some vikings and other warriors to convert.
Also, do germanic mythology have warrior woman or something?
Maybe the "Heaven virgins for the martyrs" will be the Valkyries, if not similar to it. Having sexy-ass Germanic/Scandinavian Valkyrie for the martyr beside an express ticket to heaven might attract some vikings and other warriors to convert.
Also, do germanic mythology have warrior woman or something?
Yeah, the houri probably would end up being compared to the valkyries and vice-versa, though muslim norse probably would restrict it to only warriors/martyrs for cultural reasons (as the valkyries in norse mythology decided who died in battle), while the rest of the believers doesn't gain the privileges of having a houri. Though i might make something with Freyja (warrior woman, lol.) about this "rest", but idk.Heh, we might see the Scandinavians preferring to convert to Muslim rather than Christian because of some similarities they share. Both being traders, promised heaven for dying in glory (also sweet virgins), and opportunities for land and loot for the adventurous (if you're the first to convert that means your neighbors are pagans so...)
German history is completely torn apart after just 30 years of TL...Noice. Though call the polabians as sorbs probably would put you in some wierd fight ITTL, isn't a confusion that they particularly like, tho yeah, the Obotrites are going from it to better. Thanks for appreciating!So se got s full fledge sorb state alongside elbe and baltic sea...one in cooperation with ukhawis muslims... Germany history Is so fun now with the carolineans being confined in Reims.
Amazing update, well worth the wait.
Lol, well, we would already have Bēowulf, so isn't like we're without it (if you consider that Bēowulf was written/created before the PoD), and isn't about mythology at all. I was thinking about something like the pantheon war of norse mythology but any otger ideas would [also] be greatMaybe a 13th Warriors version might not suck?
In 767, the Veleti Confederation under Minathulaty influence would go to war again against the Obotrites,
Viłtěgrod [7]
[25]: Szczecin, Poland. Pronounced [ʃət͡si:t]
the Silesian and Bohemian mines
So se got s full fledge sorb state alongside elbe and baltic sea...one in cooperation with ukhawis muslims... Germany history Is so fun now with the carolineans being confined in Reims
Maybe de-mytifing it or calling the aesir being djinn?I was thinking about something like the pantheon war of norse mythology but any otger ideas would [also] be great
So no chances for nordic women becoming the circausian beauties... For now?many will hate Islam and their followers, and this will generate some not so good things in the region.
Ooh, thanks for the info, i'll edit accordingly.We'll, it's not like the confederation form known from Xth century existed, at that time, Veleti still had their own prince (though prince didn't have that much to say), IOTL in 789 Veleti recognized an authority of guy called Drogowit, and he wasn't young when he battled Charles the Great, so most probably Veleti would be ruled by him ITTL and it could be him who is influenced by Minathulaty to go to the war with Racibor.
Actually isn't the arab way of spelling it, it's the polabian way of spelling it [Veli -> Viltě/Grad -> Grod] (and actually the majority of this chapter's placenames are in polabian), just a foreshadowing of what's to come...Recorded version of this name is Weligrad, idk if Arabs would spell it that way.
Not actually but something along these lines, it's the slavic spelling for the arab spelling of the slavic name (confused but yeah). Wolin wasn't (re)settled until the Late 8th Century-Early 9th Century (and entered proeminence at the Mid-8th Century), so actually when the merchants landed there they just...well, went southwards because no one was living there. And then they founded Shatsiit, which the slavs eventually called Šëčīt. More on that story in the update after the next.Is it Arab way to spell the name of this city? And the biggest trade point by this time was city Wolin, located on island bearing the same name, which overshadowed Szczecin. Why any ukhawia merchant with any wits would go to less important settlement to trade?
Wasn't? AFAIK the silesian and bohemians mines are in activity since antiquity (and even when someone wasn't really mining, they sometimes just found randomly minerals sitting around), so i think that even with no mining in the area, the trade pressure could simply make them, well, mine. About the avars, i know that they're not in a good position, i just mentioned them to give a vieion about the scale of what's happening (tho they probably have something to trade). They will fall, at least as a polity with the influence that they have now/had before, but will remain around on the Pannonian Basin for quite some time, the slav trade boom just makes things worse earlier for the avars short-term, simply because it potentially shortens the slav state-formation by a chunk of time, so things can go south nearly immediately at any time.Sadly, art of mining wasn't even developed about this point on this terrain, and Avars were politically decaying - Samo's tribal union left it's mark on Avar overlordship. And Great Moravia is just about to rise, so I suspect that Avars won't last long. Even if not Moravians would take advantage of their decay - if Charles the Great isn't there and Avar khaganate is not entirely devastated, they might survive longer, but it'd mean that someone else than Moravians would just take advantage from their demise - it'd most likely either Bulgarians under Krum (who IOTL expanded his rule to the north and acted against Avars) or a certain prince located "near Vistula" (modern Lesser Poland) mentioned in biography of St.Cyril and Methodius who was reported to be "very strong" and only baptized by force by Svatopluk I of Moravia or just some northern Slavic ruler
No chances of being no chances my comradeSo no chances for nordic women becoming the circausian beauties... For now?
Seems polabians changed things a Lot later on, and show how unique the region would be.slavic spelling for the arab spelling of the slavic name (confused but yeah).
Whatever relationship Muslim and Nordics Will have...Will not be prettyNo chances of being no chances my comrade
Actually isn't the arab way of spelling it, it's the polabian way of spelling it [Veli -> Viltě/Grad -> Grod] (and actually the majority of this chapter's placenames are in polabian), just a foreshadowing of what's to come...
Wasn't? AFAIK the silesian and bohemians mines are in activity since antiquity (and even when someone wasn't really mining, they sometimes just found randomly minerals sitting around), so i think that even with no mining in the area, the trade pressure could simply make them, well, mine. About the avars, i know that they're not in a good position, i just mentioned them to give a vieion about the scale of what's happening (tho they probably have something to trade). They will fall, at least as a polity with the influence that they have now/had before, but will remain around on the Pannonian Basin for quite some time, the slav trade boom just makes things worse earlier for the avars short-term, simply because it potentially shortens the slav state-formation by a chunk of time, so things can go south nearly immediately at any time
As the name is rather how you would call it TTL present-day than the name you would call at TTL Middle Ages, isn't a problem at all.(although in Middle Ages it'd probably not look like this, but let's ignore it for the sake of simplicity)
About gold i really don't know, but i know that since antiquity, silesian iron and copper mines are being explored, though as i said, the commerce boom might cause a push for mining and thus turning into a non-problem soon.As far as I know, intensive gold mining began in XIIth century here, earlier it was underdeveloped