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Ephraim Ben Raphael said:
Nice scenario! You now have me intensely curious as to what the "Semioticians" believe and what "laissez-faire gender laws" means in this context.
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Thank you! I’d be happy to explain.

I've been reading an awful lot of Wittgenstein recently, and was rather surprised when learning about semiotics that they didn’t feature more prominently in AH. Semiotics is the study of symbols, and AH is basically high level interpretation of symbols (e.g. we all know a fascist flag when we see one). Anywho, within the timeline semiotics has kind of supplanted the materialism of OTL. For instance, Semioticians might examine what monarchy signifies, what its symbols are, and how they're used, and how they might change. Materialism, or more specifically socialism, is typically criticised (fairly or not, I'm not gonna get into that) for going against human nature. Rather than prove it doesn't or just ignore the accusation, the Semioticians would advocate for changing human nature. Practically, this meant a centralised state dictating meaning, taking not just control of economics and politics, but linguistics, culture and philosophy in a very deliberate, scientific fashion. It's had varying success.
A byproduct of this ITTL is that biosciences are much more advanced -while digital sciences lag behind; transistors don't exist- as a kind of logical conclusion of changing the meaning of things, or even the things that have meaning, is to physically alter them. So for instance, Semioticians have a much more complete conceptualisation of the brain, and have at least a few concrete theories as to how consciousness arises. They've eradicated a number of diseases we haven't, and are much better at managing others (the reason tobacco is 'ubiquitously consumed' is that cancer is rather more manageable, so smoking isn't considered a societal ill). This intersects with gender in that it's better understood on a neural and biological level, and so variance of it is more widely accepted. In Sylvania's case, this means that their gender identification laws are much less regulated. I won't go into that here, though, because current politics and all.
 
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MrVulcan

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Here's each US state's (un)official SSBU character according to this Polygon video:

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A map of the realm capitals of the Union of American Realms:

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Notes
  1. Commonwealth of Aegyptania: Cairo; similar origin to the OTL city, but a vastly different history. TTL Cairo is home to at least 200K people compared to an OTL pop. of ~2K.
  2. Grand Duchy of Canada: Québec; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  3. Grand Duchy of Carolina: Raleigh; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  4. Chicagou County: Chicagou City; same origin as the OTL city of the same(-ish) name.
  5. Delmar County: Dover; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  6. Governate of East Florida: San Agustín; same origin as the OTL city of the same name, but with a vastly different history and a much larger population.
  7. Governate of Erie: Erie City; similar location to OTL Erie, PA, but vastly different history.
  8. Governate of Georgia: Georgeburg; this city does not exist in OTL, was chosen as a central location for the realm capital in the early 19th century; named after Lord-Governor George I of Georgia.
  9. Haudenosaunee Confederacy: Onondaga; roughly in the location of the OTL center of the Onondaga tribe.
  10. Governate of Hudsonia: Hull; a city endemic to TTL, roughly where OTL Chelsea, Quebec is. Not sure who I named it after to be frank.
  11. Huron County: York; same origin as the OTL city, is never renamed to Toronto in TTL.
  12. Long Island County: Hempstead; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  13. Governate of Manitoba: Grand Forks; similar origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  14. Grand Duchy of Maryland: Annapolis; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  15. Massachusetts County: Boston; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  16. Mayaimi Confederacy: Mayaimi; this city does not exist in OTL and should not be confused with Miami, FL; instead named after TTL's name for Lake Okeechobee (Lake Mayaimi).
  17. Governate of Michigan: Detroit; same origin as the OTL city, remains the capital and center of the realm in TTL.
  18. Muscogean Confederacy: Tuskalusa; although in roughly the same place as OTL Tuscaloosa, AL, this city's origins are completely separate from the OTL city.
  19. New Brunswick County: St. Stephen; same origin as the OTL municipality of the same name, but larger than it's OTL counterpart. Chosen as the capital shortly after the Revolution due its central location and the fact that TTL's New Brunswick includes OTL Maine.
  20. Newfoundland County: St. John; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  21. New Hampshire County: Portsmouth; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  22. New Haven County: New Haven; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  23. New Scotland County: Halifax; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  24. Governate of New York: Poughkeepsie; same origin as the OTL city, but chosen as the capital over Albany in TTL.
  25. Northwest Confederacy: Prophetstown; a city endemic to TTL in roughly the location of the OTL Prophetstown used by Tecumseh's forces.
  26. Governate of Ohio: Franklinton; roughly OTL Columbus, but named after Benjamin Franklin - I believe an early settlement in the region was named Franklinton in OTL.
  27. Grand Duchy of Palmetto: Columbia; same origins as the OTL city of the same name.
  28. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania: Harrisburg; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  29. Commonwealth of Riviera: Saint-Ferdinand; named after Fort Saint Ferdinand, a TTL French fort that became the center of the regions population before joining the UAR.
  30. Saybrook County: Saybrook; same origin as the OTL city (known today as Old Saybrook).
  31. Superior County: Sault Ste. Marie; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  32. Commonwealth of Transylvania: Lesina; this city is endemic to TTL. Lesina became the capital in 1848, following the cholera outbreaks in the former capital (Boonesboro). It began swelling in population during the end of the 20th Century, and that has continued into the 21st.
  33. Twin Rivers Governate: Saint-Charles; same origin as the OTL city of the same name (in Missouri), however, it was never known as San Carlos, instead always going by Saint-Charles - serves as the legislative capital/Saint-Joseph; founded similar to OTL by TTL's version of Joseph Robidoux IV - serves as the judicial capital/Entrepot; a city endemic to TTL, it serves as the executive capital of the Twin Rivers.
  34. Governate of Vermont: Montpelier; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  35. Commonwealth of Virginia: Richmond; same origin as the OTL city of the same name.
  36. Governate of West Florida: Pensacola; same origin as the OTL city of the same name, larger population than OTL considering it is a capital here.
  37. Governate of Wisconsin: Green Bay; similar origin as the OTL city of the same name.
 
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The current partisan makeup of the Diet of the Concordian Confederation as of 35 IE, where Equality has been the governing party along with recent confidence and supply with Labour since 32 IE following a horrible performance by the Concordian Party due to Margaret Major's leadership which had been considered too right-wing to the Concordian establishment. Equality takes up 47 of the Diet's 100, while the largest party doesn't meet the 51 threshold requirement for a majority in the Diet, they have entered into a confidence and supply with the Labour Party on pledges that they will comprise to try and implement a policy under Labour's manifesto. The second-largest is the Concordian Party with 39 seats, which is 14 less than what they had before the 32 federal elections to the Diet, they are followed by 4 independents, 2 Social Credit, and a single Raccoon Party in Saugon thanks to its popularity in that state.

Before 624, the Diet was originally a board of 123 advisors which was appointed personally by the Governor-General on advice of the Chief Councillor, which the Second Revision of the Concordat changed as one of the provisions of Concordia's transition into a republic, which was based on Kauresian bicameralism especially like that of its Senate, which was 2 Senators per state which the Convention based the new Diet off of as they wrote in the Diet to be a completely democratic chamber that ensured equal state representation as seen in Kauresia. Federal elections to the Diet are held just a month after the federal election to the Commons' Council.
 

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Jumping on the tiny map bandwagon-
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This Timeline branched off from OTL during the 1930s, but the main divergence comes with the survival of Subhas Chandra Bose in the fateful aircraft accident. He returns to India with impressive resources and money, thanks to his contacts with the Soviet Union and Imperial Japan. He is promptly arrested over treason, but radicals within the Congress hail him as a hero. He is able to secure amnesty thanks to his popularity among the Congress leadership. He regains his top position in the freedom struggle and steers it in an overtly socialistic, pro-Soviet direction.
This spooks the British government wary of the Soviets at the beginning of the cold war. However, as the moderates within the Congress are marginalised and ignored, while the population grows uneasy for independence, the government appears powerless.
Meanwhile, Subhas Bose's pro-Hindi leanings increasingly alienate Southern India and the Dravidian movement gains force. Sensing opportunity, Lord Mountbatten covertly supports the movement and releases plans for a Dravida Nadu. The moderates within the Congress led by Sardar Patel enable its formation out of spite and place one of their own, Chakravarti Rajagopalachari as Prime Minister.
With this, several Princes follow suit. First, Hyderabad declares itself independent from the dominion of India, followed by Jammu and Kashmir and Baroda.
As India finally becomes independent, it tries to bully the minor states to rejoin. However, they are defended by Britain and the invasion of Baroda backfires, allowing it to takeover all of Gujarat with support from fellow princes scared of losing their estates thanks to socialism.

India is still led by Jawaharlal Nehru, with Bose acting as the president. Pakistan tries to take-over JK here too and the Maharaja is forced to ask for help from India. India is a bit more strategic this time does not annex Kashmir. Instead, Nehru's ally Sheikh Abdullah is placed as the Prime Minister of Kashmir and the Maharaja loses all power.
India continues as OTL, being a socialist republic, with the Nehru-Gandhi family at the helm.
On the other hand, Dravida Nadu and Gujarat adopt free marketeerism and industrialise rapidly along with other Asian tigers. Pakistan grows quickly too, but eventually stagnates. The Bengali genocide is even worse in this timeline, and Bangladesh emerges as an independent state.
South Asia becomes an important cold war arena.

India takes over Goa, Sikkim and even Mysore for a brief period under Sanjay Gandhi. Described as a powerhungry tyrant and as incompetent and scheming, he orders severe repression and wastes resources in his pet projects. He managed to unite the disparate powers in the subcontinent against him when he tried to invade Gujarat. Eventually, he is deposed by his own sister-in-law, Sonia Gandhi. India undergoes an earlier liberalization under Subramanian Swamy in 1984.

The SAARE (South Asian Association for the Regional Economy), which also means "we all" in Hindi, is established in 1993, after the fall of the Soviet Union. It is a loose economic cooperation project, similar to the EEC.
Its Member States are-
Capital CityPopulationGDP(PPP) millions of $UNDP CategoryDescription
Republic of AfghanistanKabul
32225600​
72981​
LowCurrently led by Abdullah Abdullah, Afghanistan is a wartorn, yet democratic country. It has faced invasions from the Soviets and Americans, which finally led to the democratic government being set-up. It is very conservative and backwards.
Islamic Republic of PakistanIslamabad
213228286​
1369470​
LowRuled by a military junta with a powerless prime minister, Pakistan is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It has a semi-industrialised economy which has stagnated despite aid from major economies. However, it possesses a formidable military and is a declared nuclear power.
Kingdom of Jammu and KashmirSrinagar
17686900​
51358​
LowJammu and Kashmir is officially a constitutional monarchy, with Omar Abdullah. Like Pakistan, J&K is very corrupt, with the Abdullah family acting as virtual dictators, with only a meek opposition and a meeker king to stop them. Kashmir has been invaded multiple times by Pakistan and currently faces an islamic insurgency.
People's Republic of IndiaNew Delhi
1026784600​
13438206​
Lower-MiddlePeople's Republic of India is currently led by Shivraj Singh Chauhan and remains the "Hegemon of the Subcontinent". After Sanjay Gandhi's demise, India liberalised its economy and now has a large and quickly-growing middle class, hungry for resources and opportunities. Yet, it still has the second largest population of poor people in the world and it also faces a corrupt system.
People's Federal Democratic Republic of NepalKathmandu
28756100​
58395​
LowNepal is a Maoist state that formed after its king was overthrown. It remains poor and the leadership has been unable to manage the country well. There is also significant distrust among its many ethnic communities.
Kingdom of GujaratBaroda
66983800​
3161385​
UpperKingdom of Gujarat is a constitutional monarchy, with an executive directorate of five directors leading the nation, a system similar to Switzerland. It is well known as the Lion of Asia, due to its meteoric growth post independence and the domineering role of Gujarati corporations in East, South and West Asia. Its king remains extremely wealthy and influential.
Kingdom of SikkimGangtok
617000​
1679​
Lower-Middle
Kingdom of BhutanThimphu
750000​
7701​
Low
People's Republic of BangladeshDhaka
161208500​
1009592​
LowPeople's Republic of Bangladesh split off from Pakistan after the Bengali genocide which resulted in the death of over five million people and a bloody war between India and Pakistan. It remains the poorest country in the sub-continent, but has recently emerged as a textile production center.
State of HyderabadHyderabad City
58439000​
1191648​
MiddleLike Kashmir, Hyderabad is a constitutional monarchy with a weak king. It is ruled by Upper-Class Muslims who disregard the wishes of the rest of the population (over 90%). Thankfully, the Nizam's intervention means that outright genocide and repression has not been tried, and the state's funds are used for the benefit of the people and not embezzled by the ruling class. The Prime Minister is Assaudin Owaisi, a radical muslim theocrat. Still, Hyderabad has emerged as an attractive immigration destination.
Republic of Dravida NaduChennai
146075600​
7065497​
UpperDravida Nadu was a result of the Dravidian movement's backlash against Hindi and Brahmin's. It abolished the bureaucracy which it deemed was tainted by Brahmins and was parasitic. As it turned out, colonial bureaucracy was actually parasitic and abolishing it allowed Dravida Nadu to rise along with other Asian Tigers. Currently led by Narayan Murthy, a tech entrepreneur and philanthropist.
Kingdom of MysoreMysuru
42669300​
1991224​
Upper-Middle
 
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The first-level divisions (kephalatikioi) of the Anatolian Empire, 1295. The kephalatikioi governors (kephaloi) report only to the Basileus and are responsible for the transfer of taxes from the Merisioi, the second-level provinces. As such, they are responsible for making sure that all of the kephalatikioi's revenue reach Smyrne. The logothete ton genikos are often....less than genial....towards embezzling kephaloi or merisiarkhs, so they are often considered to be less desirable positions than foreign diplomatic postings.
 
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isolationist religious-wartorn europe just found out north america existed: the textbook
consult previous maps in thread and my dead tl for context
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This looks really awesome.
I note "rediscovery" of Hanuna by europeans and 200 years later than OTL. Was the first discovery a Vinland type of deal or something more significant? A lost roman colony perhaps?
Atheist Briton's in the 1700's. What spurred that theological progression, generally not seen in OTL before rich, modern, scientifically literate societies made people feel like they truly control their own destiny?

Also is Andalusia just acting as Spain TTL?
 
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