Is that why they dropped the bomb has high above the ground as they did? Also, I can see why they evacuated so many people in Latvia and Finland when you remember how close Petrograd is. That said, it would later turn out that the bomb over Petrograd was far less severe than people expected. That, combined with preparing equipment to help survivors, meant that Truman was right when Russia became a Republic instead of a monarchy like the UK and Japan made Germany into by restoring the position of the Kaiser.
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Is that why they dropped the bomb has high above the ground as they did? Also, I can see why they evacuated so many people in Latvia and Finland when you remember how close Petrograd is. That said, it would later turn out that the bomb over Petrograd was far less severe than people expected. That, combined with preparing equipment to help survivors, meant that Truman was right when Russia became a Republic instead of a monarchy like the UK and Japan made Germany into by restoring the position of the Kaiser.
Long story short, having Nazi Germany and the USSR as his key Allies had its perks for Horthy. Or at least it did at first.
OOC: Horthy would probably have to be replaced then, as he wanted to keep his expansion to only areas that were majority or plurality Hungarian.
Of course, though, Horthy was kind of in the way of Hitler and Stalin's own ambitions beyond old Hungary, and they just saw him as their way getting them at least by proxy.
I wonder if America's fascination with Vietnamese comics and movies would be replaced with those of Japan ttl. In our world, Anime didn't really hit mainstream till the Animation Dark Age, but Vietophilia was dated back to the 50s/early 60s, since we helped wrestle them out of the French Empire (which then caused Britain's shenanigans in Brazil which have already been discussed). Even otl, america fell in love with anime, but V-Movies have long been more popular
Except, they forgot about supporting the VM because they needed France, the strongest Republic in Europe, on their side no matter what. That said, France was still peeved and openly supported the UK's efforts to restore the monarchy in Brazil as revenge.
Just a lucky thing these petty squabbles ended by 1975.
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Even with the issues of these kinds of squabbles, we still at least had plenty of films where American and British heroes worked side-by-side. Wether they be James Bond working with CIA to topple Columbian drug lords, or Maxwell Smart buffoonishly halting the plans of extremist theocrats in Arabia. Or a joint venture to take out Neo-Soviets before they can revive the USSR.
Thought I'd give some of my all-time favorite photos from the War.
The infamous "Hiroshima Baby" photo. Which depicts a newly orphaned baby after the Soviet firebombing of Hiroshima.
One example of how the Allies would often let loose German and Hungarian POWs against the Soviets on the European and Afghan fronts. Notably, the execution of several Soviet officials near the Afghan capitol of Kabul.
It was a shockingly warm Alaskan morning on June 15, 1941; the day that the Soviet Air Force bombed the US Navy base at Adak Island. Largely in response to the US' support of Japan via Lend-Lease Agreements.
My maternal great-grandfather, Joe Tamulis, is the soldier who is receiving his rations in this photo taken during the Siberia Campaign, where the US would attempt to take as much as they could of Eastern Russia to prevent further attacks on bases in Alaska.
The photographer's take on the Petrograd bomb, which the B-29 bomber The Enola Gay dropped on September 4, 1945.
A photo taken from an Avro Lancaster of the first British nuke, which the RAF dropped over Kubyishev on September 13, 1945.
The infamous "Hiroshima Baby" photo. Which depicts a newly orphaned baby after the Soviet firebombing of Hiroshima.
One example of how the Allies would often let loose German and Hungarian POWs against the Soviets on the European and Afghan fronts. Notably, the execution of several Soviet officials near the Afghan capitol of Kabul.
It was a shockingly warm Alaskan morning on June 15, 1941; the day that the Soviet Air Force bombed the US Navy base at Adak Island. Largely in response to the US' support of Japan via Lend-Lease Agreements.
My maternal great-grandfather, Joe Tamulis, is the soldier who is receiving his rations in this photo taken during the Siberia Campaign, where the US would attempt to take as much as they could of Eastern Russia to prevent further attacks on bases in Alaska.
The photographer's take on the Petrograd bomb, which the B-29 bomber The Enola Gay dropped on September 4, 1945.
A photo taken from an Avro Lancaster of the first British nuke, which the RAF dropped over Kubyishev on September 13, 1945.
I was looking at the map, and I think Omsk was the one America dropped its second nuke on, not Rostov-On-Don as was originally said.
Decided to use the corrections provided to update the world map as of 1943, when the Liberation of France began in June that year, with mostly American and Brazilian forces storming the Low Countries. As well as when a Hellcat gunned down Mao's escort during the battle of Shanghai, then when a Zero took out Kim Jong-Il; the Soviet puppet in Korea.
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Ya know, the baby boom after the war would probably be bigger, at least in america. Otl, while there certainly was elation at the war's end, such a large scale war had done a huge number on our population, and honestly with the traumas of war, not a lot of people wanted to go back to that traditional suburbia.
So far, here are my recollections for all the options given for places the Allies would nuke to end the USSR.
- Omsk
- Tayshet
- Sverdlovsk
- Kuybuyshev
- Omsk
- Tayshet
- Sverdlovsk
- Kuybuyshev
I just realized I mixed up most of my maps in this threads with ones I had for a different TL I am writing. I'll have the correct ones soon.
At any rate, I can see why the Axis attacked so much of the Middle East. The had to make sure the UK was cut off from India ASAP, and that India itself fell son thereafter as well. With what was said about India being the Allied bread-basket of manpower and such.
Thank God for the Russian Broad Gauge. All that they they had to spend changing the gauge of the trains were ultimately what screwed over the Axis in the Middle East.
At any rate, I can see why the Axis attacked so much of the Middle East. The had to make sure the UK was cut off from India ASAP, and that India itself fell son thereafter as well. With what was said about India being the Allied bread-basket of manpower and such.
Thank God for the Russian Broad Gauge. All that they they had to spend changing the gauge of the trains were ultimately what screwed over the Axis in the Middle East.
OOC: Actually, unless that Zero strafed a cradle, it would be Kim Il Sung.
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Well, consider the fact that any Japanese airman ITTL who'd think of stooping to that would quickly be beheaded, that's not too likely.
Anyone else remember that Lupin III episode where Lupin snuck a Nazi expat from Italy, across the British occupational zone in Austria, then all the way to Berlin in the US Occupational Zone? That's easily my favorite episode; lucky thing Fleischer got it dubbed despite its content.
Another thing that got me thinking is how the borders could have been affected by the war.
OTL, the only real difference we got was that East Prussia became part of Poland. Whereas Hungary lost Transylvania to Romania, and the USSR lost the Belarusian territory to Poland and the Ukraine became independent.
OTL, the only real difference we got was that East Prussia became part of Poland. Whereas Hungary lost Transylvania to Romania, and the USSR lost the Belarusian territory to Poland and the Ukraine became independent.