further ATL changes the Anjou family managed to get a hold of the kingdom of naples in 1443
Charles the bold marries Yolande of Lorraine in 1445 and have the following children:
John (M) (1451-1451) (1465 age/) (1473 age/) (1477 age/) (1480 age/) (1483 age/)
Philip (M) (1451-1508) (1465 age 14) (1473 age22) (1477 age26) (1480 age29) (1483 age32)
Marie (F) (1458-1480) (1465 age 7) (1473 age15) (1477 age19) (1480 age22) (1483 age/)
Joanna (F) (1460-1500) (1465 age 5) (1473 age13) (1477 age17) (1480 ag20) (1483 age23)
Margaretha (F) (1463-1521) (1465 age 2) (1473 age10) (1477 age14) (1480 age17) (1483 age20)
Antoine (M) (1470-1476) ( (1465 age/) (1473 age3) (1477 age/) (1480 age/) (1483 age/)
History is kept a stable as possible:
The league of the public weal still happens in a burgundian victory over france in 1465
John 2 duke of Lorraine dies in 1470 and leaes his possesion to his son Nicholas
His son (John2) Nicholas dies in 1473 would Philip be the heir apparent (of Anjou) at this point (he is obviously the heir to burgundy)?
Rene of Anjou is still alive at this point being 64 years old he holds the kingdom of naples, is duke of bar; Anjou and Lorraine and is count of Provence. He is allowed to make his testament
Charles IV of Anjou is alive in 1473 (27Y) (but will die in1481 childless)
Yolande is alive in 1473 (45y) (given the rate of children would she had more OTL stops her in 1470 but that's when her OTL husband died)
Margaret is alive in 1473 (43y) her only son died before and she had been in Custody since 1472 in england)
Charles the bold still dies in 1477 assume Philip inherits burgundy at this point
Rene of Anjou dies 1480
Charles IV of Anjou dies 1481 no heirs
Margaret of Anjou dies in 1482 no heirs
Yolande dies in 1483 leaving 1 son and 2 daughters
(let's ignore the impact that charles being married to the sister of margaretha of Anjou will have on the relationships with england)
They might be married of at random times butI added some interesting dates. with their respective age.
If I would to give Philip one atribute it would be to remain independent (from france mostly) with a greater intrest in the low countries, Lorraine and burgundy (Lotharingia in one word), then Anjou, Provence and the kingdom of naples.
Philip is based on Yolandes OTL son Rene therefor he speaks fluent latin, had a good education likes arts and sciences but most of all geography
Joanna is based on Yolande OTL daughter yolande she has no Obvious personality quicks and apears to be normal and plain
Margaretha is based on Yolande OTL daughter margaret favorite grand child of Rene she has no Obvious personality quicks and apears to be normal and plain. She might also see Rene less as she will grow up in the low countries.
Who would be potential marriage candidates for whom?
Charles the bold marries Yolande of Lorraine in 1445 and have the following children:
John (M) (1451-1451) (1465 age/) (1473 age/) (1477 age/) (1480 age/) (1483 age/)
Philip (M) (1451-1508) (1465 age 14) (1473 age22) (1477 age26) (1480 age29) (1483 age32)
Marie (F) (1458-1480) (1465 age 7) (1473 age15) (1477 age19) (1480 age22) (1483 age/)
Joanna (F) (1460-1500) (1465 age 5) (1473 age13) (1477 age17) (1480 ag20) (1483 age23)
Margaretha (F) (1463-1521) (1465 age 2) (1473 age10) (1477 age14) (1480 age17) (1483 age20)
Antoine (M) (1470-1476) ( (1465 age/) (1473 age3) (1477 age/) (1480 age/) (1483 age/)
History is kept a stable as possible:
The league of the public weal still happens in a burgundian victory over france in 1465
John 2 duke of Lorraine dies in 1470 and leaes his possesion to his son Nicholas
His son (John2) Nicholas dies in 1473 would Philip be the heir apparent (of Anjou) at this point (he is obviously the heir to burgundy)?
Rene of Anjou is still alive at this point being 64 years old he holds the kingdom of naples, is duke of bar; Anjou and Lorraine and is count of Provence. He is allowed to make his testament
Charles IV of Anjou is alive in 1473 (27Y) (but will die in1481 childless)
Yolande is alive in 1473 (45y) (given the rate of children would she had more OTL stops her in 1470 but that's when her OTL husband died)
Margaret is alive in 1473 (43y) her only son died before and she had been in Custody since 1472 in england)
Charles the bold still dies in 1477 assume Philip inherits burgundy at this point
Rene of Anjou dies 1480
Charles IV of Anjou dies 1481 no heirs
Margaret of Anjou dies in 1482 no heirs
Yolande dies in 1483 leaving 1 son and 2 daughters
(let's ignore the impact that charles being married to the sister of margaretha of Anjou will have on the relationships with england)
They might be married of at random times butI added some interesting dates. with their respective age.
If I would to give Philip one atribute it would be to remain independent (from france mostly) with a greater intrest in the low countries, Lorraine and burgundy (Lotharingia in one word), then Anjou, Provence and the kingdom of naples.
Philip is based on Yolandes OTL son Rene therefor he speaks fluent latin, had a good education likes arts and sciences but most of all geography
Joanna is based on Yolande OTL daughter yolande she has no Obvious personality quicks and apears to be normal and plain
Margaretha is based on Yolande OTL daughter margaret favorite grand child of Rene she has no Obvious personality quicks and apears to be normal and plain. She might also see Rene less as she will grow up in the low countries.
Who would be potential marriage candidates for whom?
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