An American Oddity

[George Washington]

States:
Delaware
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
Virginia
Quebec
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
Maryland
Connecticut
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island

Commonwealths:
Cuba
East Florida
Labrador
New Brunswick
Newfoundland
Nova Scotia
Vermont
West Florida

Territories:
California
Canada
Canadian Islands
Iowa
Louisiana
Mexico
Missouri
Mississippi
Northern Territories
Ontario
Ohio
Oregon
Tejas
Tennessee

 

[Lusitania]

I think there is a misunderstanding here, the states are each in there own civil war and know banning together will solve this problem

If they in war then 9 not accept new government. There is anarchy only.

 

[Lusitania]

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States:
Delaware
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
Virginia
Quebec
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
Maryland
Connecticut
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island

Commonwealths:
Cuba
East Florida
Labrador
New Brunswick
Newfoundland
Nova Scotia
Vermont
West Florida

Territories:
California
Canada
Canadian Islands
Iowa
Louisiana
Mexico
Missouri
Mississippi
Northern Territories
Ontario
Ohio
Oregon
Tejas
Tennessee

Sorry but map is fantasy unfortunately us had no claim to any part in red or blue. The British not loose what you indicate or Spain or France would Lose those parts. I am sorry but the TL is becoming more unbalanced and unrealistic. US is able to quick out Britain in the 13 colonies but had no power elsewhere.
Lastly Quebec not part of a US.

 

[George Washington]

Sorry but map is fantasy unfortunately us had no claim to any part in red or blue. The British not loose what you indicate or Spain or France would Lose those parts. I am sorry but the TL is becoming more unbalanced and unrealistic. US is able to quick out Britain in the 13 colonies but had no power elsewhere.
Lastly Quebec not part of a US.

1. IOTL, Tennessee and Ohio territories, represented in Red, where American. Quebec is in America, end of discussion. This means neighboring parts of Canada are as well. Everything else had little to no population.
2. The Massachusetts rebellion puts America in the same position as it was IOTL 1787, just earlier like the wars end and everything else.

 

[George Washington]

Of course, very serious implications happened globally. Britain and Spain were almost bankrupt from recent wars, and France, despite recent good fortune, was also nearly bankrupt. The Dutch were very wealthy, and Portugal was not too changed. Finally, the Holy Roman Empire was about to undergo serious change. Other major nations around: Russia, the Quin Dynasty (China), Japan, Ethiopia and the Ottoman Empire

First of all, Spain had the most serious change. Losing Louisiana was okay, but Mexico and Cuba made them made, not to say the Dutch taking Venezuela. Finances were ruined. The kingdom finally fell into rebellion 2 years after losing the First War for the Americas, with the Army, Navy, and people going rouge. They quickly took out Madrid and installed a republican government, with a Parliament based of the U.S. Congress, with states including Castile and Leon, Aragon, Galatia, and others. A elected King, President of Parliament was chosen, and the quick Spanish revolution turned Spain to the side of France, the Netherlands, and the fledgling U.S.

Britain took a hard hit. It had lost its crown jewel, and despite retaining British Honduras and Bermuda, they knew it was time to expand. They invested in South Africa and India in earnest, and explorer James Cook discovered a new land, and name it New Britain, with Georgetown on the islands west coast its capitol (This is OTL Australia). The recession caused by the lose of the war and the colonies was recovered from by 1790, just in time for more conflict...

France had made strides in the war, taking half of former Spanish Mexico, the East half of Cuba, and a victory over Britain. However, its treasury ran dry. King Louis XVI decided to sell off the west half of Cuba to the U.S, approved by Congress, and Washington, Mason, and Adams in 1786, for the price of $7 Million dollars. They barely avoided revolution.

The Netherlands were particularly happy, having gained victory over Britain and expanded a South American colony. New Amsterdam was decided as the colonial capital (not yet built) and a future new colony in Africa seemed possible.

The Holy Roman Empire was founded around 800 A.D., built was on the verge of collapse. Its allies persuaded various kings to have a constitutional convention in Berlin in 1785, but that is for next time.

 

[George Washington]

Government Leadership Position	Officeholder	Political Party	Home State
Executive President	George Washington	Unaffiliated	Virginia
Constitutional Adviser	George Mason	Unaffiliated	Virginia
Chair of State	Thomas Jefferson	Democratic-Republican	Virginia
Chair of the Treasury	Alexander Hamilton	Federalist	New York
Chair of Justice	John Jay	Federalist	New York
Chair of Defense	Henry Knox	Federalist	Massachusetts
Chair of the Interior	John Adams	Federalist	Massachusetts
House of Representatives	64 Representatives	13-9	Various
Senate	28 Representatives	31-28	Various
States	14 Governors	11-3	Various

The First Executive Council of the United States of America was primarily Federalist, but in order to understand this, one must understand the working of the first political parties.

The Federalist Party
Founded by Alexander Hamilton, this party was dominant in New York, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey. They supported a large government, with a large army, navy and other as well as a more pro-British stance. The Federalist party represented the wealthiest Americans.

The Democratic-Republican Party
Founded by Thomas Jefferson, this party was dominant in the South, New England, and Quebec. The supported a small government, with a small army, no navy and were very pro-French. These represented most Americans and grew to power after 1800.

First Actions
Although paying off war debt was the #1 concern, party disputes (heavily disliked by Washington, Mason, and Franklin) grew. John Adams accomplished a lot as Chair of the Interior, however. His control of the post office gave him control of the first state, commonwealth, territory and city postal abbreviations.

Connecticut- CN
Delaware- DE
Georgia- GE
Massachusetts- MA
Maryland- MY
New Jersey- NJ
New Hampshire- NH
New York- NY
North Carolina- NC
Rhode Island- RI
South Carolina- SC
Quebec- QU
Virginia- VA

Cuba- CU
East Florida- EF
Labrador- LA
New Brunswick- NB
Newfoundland- NF
Nova Scotia- NS
Vermont- VE
West Florida- WF

California- CA
Canada- CD
Canadian Islands- CI
Iowa- IO
Louisiana- LO
Mexico- MX
Missouri- MS
Mississippi- MI
Northern Territories- NT
Ontario- ON
Ohio- OH
Oregon- OR
Tennessee- TN
Texas- TX

Selected Cities given abbreviations
Baltimore- BAL
Boston- BOS
Charleston- CHA
Georgetown- GET
Philadelphia- PHI
Montreal- MON
New York City- NYC
Quebec City- QUE

Also, John Adams hired Revolution veteran and Massachusetts resident James Monroe to explore the West by ship, start a few settlements, and influence the future of America.

 

[George Washington]

John Adams, a Federalist, saw that James Monroe was a rising star in Virginia, maybe almost ready to challenge Governor James Madison of the same political party. In order to divert this, he made Monroe an American explorer. He would take 25 families from each state, on three ships, the U.S.S. Virginia, U.S.S. Delaware, and the U.S.S. Montreal and sail around Cape Horn and too the American coast.

His first stop was Hawai’i, a Kingdom in the Pacific that would later become American after good relations following this meeting. Next was near a small town called Los Angeles, where Washington City was founded. Up the coast the Yerba Berma was Jefferson and Hamilton Cities. Further up, into Canada, was Arnoldsville, in honor of Benedict Arnold. Finally, Monroe sailed around the world to get back to America, stopping in China, India, and France before returning to America.

 

[George Washington]

Britain had lost the America badly. However, all was not lost for the crown. 250,000 Loyalists fled to England, hoping to be placed in other colonies, such as South Africa or India. They were. James Cook discovered George land, and colonists went there. New Britannica, the British-owned island chain in the South Pacific also grew. Things were looking up for the British empire. In 1786, they took over Egypt. They bought the rest of the Virgin Islands from Denmark. They quickly forgot about America.

The Holy Roman Empire was huge at this point, but on the point of decline. The disunity between its various kingdoms earned intervention from its allies. After the American Revolution, where it was incapable of supporting France, America, and the Netherlands, delegates from Brandenburg, Bohemia, Hanover, Bavaria, Munster and Saxony all met in Berlin. They created a government based of that of the U.S., with a few key changes. For one, instead of states having governors, the provinces of Germany would be ruled by Kings, with an elected Governor to rule beside him. Also, instead of an Oligarchy, a traditional republic was chosen, with an Arch-Governor elected of the people and an Arch-King elected of the nobility of the nation. George Washington had personally proposed it to the delegates, and the birth of the Federal Republic of Germany (and a friendship with America) was formed.

However, choosing a capitol was hard. The Netherlands weren't to helpful, because they wanted the Austrian Netherlands in their hands. Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Brussels, and Hanover where all considered, but in order to get the smaller states on board, they chose Frankfurt. Most states traditionally in the Holy Roman Empire signed on to the Federal Republic of Germany, as well as a few others. The Kingdom of Prussia and the Kingdom of Poland where traditionally German, and after seeing uprisings in America and Spain, they opted for a peaceful transfer of power. Of course, this meant that the Germany had its laws available in Polish as well.

 

[George Washington]

To anyone viewing, please post your ideas for this TL.

 

[George Washington]

Early America was a place where partisan debates began to grow. Three parties began to grow, creating the original 3 party system. The Federalists Party and Democrat-Republican Parties have been aforementioned. The American Party was founded by those who valued the security of America above all else. The prominent members included George Washington and George Mason. However, states would vote per office by majority of the legislature.

The first order of business (outside of Adams interior improvements) was paying off debts. These debts where massive. Primarily owed to France, these debts could bankrupt the U.S. Hamilton was the first to propose the prospective ‘First Bank of the United States,’ which involved a Federal bank to issue currency. However, Jefferson would have none of it. He proposed state banks, and the states would pay off their debts. All future debt would be assumed by the U.S. George Washington, ever the compromiser, proposed a national bank which would standardize the front side of dollar bills and assume half of each states debt. The individual states would be responsible for the other half. (Georgia could have a different currency back the New Jersey, but it would be valid in both states.) Congress accepted the resolution on May 22nd, 1785.

The second order of business was where the Capitol would be. North and South fought heavily about it. Southerners wanted to protect slavery. Catholics wanted religious freedom. New England wanted self-government (so Georgia would be too far). Finally, a compromise was reached. A 12 mile district, both in Maryland and Virginia, would be ceded to form a Federal District. It was positioned so the Mount Vernon was just outside the reach of the F.D. This was quickly adopted, to the disgrace of Hamilton.

Finally, Hamilton had some luck. He had pushed for a large military, and had convinced the Federalist majority Congress to label it as ‘a matter of the interior,’ overriding Henry Knox’s position as Chair of Defense (an illegal acition later called squandering.) A massive military was conscripted, with a school in New York to be built to train soldiers. However, Hamilton was not lucky enough.

Edmond Randolph had been appointed Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, which could ‘override laws deemed unconstitutional.’ The army remained in place, but all of its affairs where transferred to Knox. This set precedent for later cases after Knox v. Congress of the United States

 

[George Washington]

America was a vast country bigger than the whole of Europe, Japan, and Central America combined. However, it only had 14 states. Several Commonwealths were founded at the Constitutional Convention of 1783, including Vermont, Nova Scotia, Maine and a variety of others. Vermont, the son of the Green Mountain Boys, agreed to commonwealth status until Congress could meet. Sure enough, the Vermont became the fifteenth state, with is capitol at Montpelier. Nova Scotia became the sixteenth in 1785, with its capitol at Halifax. Tennessee was split into two commonwealths, Tennessee and Kentucky. Mississippi became a commonwealth. South Louisiana broke off to became the Louisiana commonwealth (the northern part became known as Arkansas, named after a local river.) and part of the Ohio Territory broke off the form the Commonwealth of Erie. Louisiana had a capitol at New Orleans and Erie's was the city of Columbus. Finally, East and West Florida each applied for statehood, separately. New Postal Abbreviations:

Arkansas Territory: AR
Erie: ER
Louisiana Commonwealth: LA
Kentucky: KN

That was just 1785. In California Territory, Washington City, Jefferson City, Hamilton City, and a port city south of Washington City known as San Diego grew rapidly. Washington City became its prospective capitol. The state was still small, but people where hiking across the U.S., sailing around Cape Horn, and looking for a Northwest Passage. Once a passage through the island was found, it was hardly used, but resources where quickly diverted. In Mexico and Tejas territory, San Antonio, Galveston, and Monterrey also grew, leading to commonwealth application of parts of each in 1787. Missouri and Ontario grew as well.

 

[George Washington]

With a growing America, political parties began to regionalism. The American Party, although having powerful members, was a minor party, which had support among only the most neutral citizens of the nation and won nothing much more than Delaware in midterms in 1787. The Federalist Party had high power in the Middle States, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. Finally, the Democratic-Republican Party had strength in the South, Maryland, Canada, and the remainder of New England.

State	House Representation	Senate Representation	Governorship
CN	5 (3-2)	2 (2)	Samuel Huntington
DE	1 (1)	2 (2)	Thomas Collins
EF	1 (1)	2 (2)	James Armstrong
ER	1 (1)	2 (2)	James Monroe
GE	2 (2)	2 (2)	Edward Telfair
MA	6 (5-1)	2 (2)	Samuel Adams
MY	4 (4)	2 (2)	Robert H. Harrison
NC	5 (4-1)	2 (2)	John Milton
NJ	4 (4)	2 (2)	William Livingston
NH	3 (3)	2 (2)	Benjamin Lincoln
NS	1 (1)	2 (1-1)	James Livingston
NY	6 (5-1)	2 (2)	George Clinton
RI	1 (1)	2 (1-1)	William Greene
SC	5 (4-1)	2 (2)	John Rutledge
QU	6 (4-1-1)	2 (1-1)	Jean Baptiste
VA	10 (6-3-1)	2 (2)	James Madison

Political Parties began to evolve. The Democratic-Republicans and the Americans (PP, not the whole of the nation) wanted expansion, the Federalists where anti-expansion. The Federalists where pro-taxation. George Mason and George Washington signed every constitutional bill, but ultimately Alexander Hamilton enforced them like crazy. One of these was the Slave Tax, where all slaves would be taxed, $5 a piece. Georgia and South Carolina went into full revolt. Ultimately, Henry Knox rode into Charleston, putting down the rebellion. This was prelude to things to come.

 

[George Washington]

After the rebellion, Alexander Hamilton was heavily disliked in the South. However, that same tax was helping New England. More and more, the country was becoming sectionalism. However, the next major part of politics would be a very bad thing. A rebellion in Spain had made a Republican government, which ultimately collapsed. Portugal seemed likely to strike while Spain was weak. Ultimately, Spain turned to an enemy-ally. France, although having fought against the Spanish in the American revolution, had gotten favor in the country. Lafayette of France was a general who had had some success in Egypt, but no opportunity to rise to power was happening anytime soon. Spain crown Napoleon Bonaparte King Marquis I in August 1787. This support and alliance led to the Franco-Napoleonic Wars, where Spain and France and their allies would seize control of Europe, or at least try. The war started with an attack on Portugal. This led to Ottoman and Russians and Danes joining the British, but it was to late for Portugal. Spain seized Lisbon January 2nd, 1788. This led to the impressment of American sailors by the British. This led to Henry Knox's plan.

Knox mustered America's Navy into a strengthening a rebellion on Ireland. This led to Britain trying to keep Ireland, putting out all hope for Portugal. The Spain attacked Athens, in the Ottoman Empire. This led to the European branch of the Ottoman Empire becoming the Republic of Greece. Democracy was back in its homeland. The Barbary Nations in North Africa lost all support, and collapsed into Waring city states, until France took Algeria and Spain Morocco. With the Spanish and French armadas on the doorstep of Istanbul, the Ottoman Empire surrendered, and removed itself from European politics, keeping its empire in Asia intact. They marched North to Russia, and attacked Kiev. That was as far as they went before Russia, Denmark, Great Britain, and the shame of whatever was left of Portugal surrendered. Portugal was gone from the face of the earth, just Spanish territory now. Ireland did not receive independence, but every nation acknowledged Greece. This was also the beginning of alliances that would shape the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.

When the treaty of Cardiff was signed, Britain saw it needed to expand its allies, re-establish Portugal, and destroy its enemies.

 

[TheRockofChickamauga]

After the rebellion, Alexander Hamilton was heavily disliked in the South. However, that same tax was helping New England. More and more, the country was becoming sectionalism. However, the next major part of politics would be a very bad thing. A rebellion in Spain had made a Republican government, which ultimately collapsed. Portugal seemed likely to strike while Spain was weak. Ultimately, Spain turned to an enemy-ally. France, although having fought against the Spanish in the American revolution, had gotten favor in the country. Napoleon Bonaparte of France was a general who had had some success in Egypt, but no opportunity to rise to power was happening anytime soon. Spain crown Napoleon Bonaparte King Napoleon I in August 1787. This support and alliance led to the Franco-Napoleonic Wars, where Spain and France and their allies would seize control of Europe, or at least try. The war started with an attack on Portugal. It also led to the unification of Italy, under republican government. This led to Ottoman and Russians and Danes joining the British, but it was to late for Portugal. Spain seized Lisbon January 2nd, 1788. This led to the impressment of American sailors by the British. This led to Henry Knox's plan.

Knox mustered America's Navy into a strengthening a rebellion on Ireland. This led to Britain trying to keep Ireland, putting out all hope for Portugal. The Spain attacked Athens, in the Ottoman Empire. This led to the European branch of the Ottoman Empire becoming the Republic of Greece. Democracy was back in its homeland. The Barbary Nations in North Africa lost all support, and collapsed into Waring city states, until France took Algeria and Spain Morocco. With the Spanish and French armadas on the doorstep of Istanbul, the Ottoman Empire surrendered, and removed itself from European politics, keeping its empire in Asia intact. They marched North to Russia, and attacked Kiev. That was as far as they went before Russia, Denmark, Great Britain, and the shame of whatever was left of Portugal surrendered. Portugal was gone from the face of the earth, just Spanish territory now. Ireland did not receive independence, but every nation acknowledged Greece. This was also the beginning of alliances that would shape the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.

When the treaty of Cardiff was signed, Britain saw it needed to expand its allies, re-establish Portugal, and destroy its enemies.

Why did Napoleon became a general and King of Spain, as unless his birth was butterflied into a earlier date, he would only be 18 at the time of his coronation as King of Spain in your timeline. Also how did he become a general, not to mention King of Spain? The highest rank I could see him achieving by 1787 would be a French lieutenant at best, and definitely not the material to be seizing power and establishing a monarchy in Spain.

 

[George Washington]

Why did Napoleon became a general and King of Spain, as unless his birth was butterflied into a earlier date, he would only be 18 at the time of his coronation as King of Spain in your timeline. Also how did he become a general, not to mention King of Spain? The highest rank I could see him achieving by 1787 would be a French lieutenant at best, and definitely not the material to be seizing power and establishing a monarchy in Spain.

Oops

 

[George Washington]

Didn't realize that (slap in the face.) I will replace him with Lafayette, unless someone else is better.

 

[George Washington]

With Portugal now eliminated, Brazil became an independent nation. However, this led to a variety of other events in the new world, particularly what to do with natives. It was February of 1790 when the war ended, and the nation was only two years away from its next major election. Everyone knew George Washington and George Mason would retire after one more term, and the American Party would die after that. Delaware even began voting for the Federalists. Also, Martha Washington, in the middle of the war, had given birth to twins, named George Washington II and Victoria Washington. This made Washington willing to stick on a third term, hoping that when Washington II was elected (as he inevitably would) he would be a good leader. The Federalist Party was becoming the more progressive liberal party in the U.S., wanting to defend the rights of native Americans. The Democratic Party was the more conservative and racist, and there ultimate goal was to remove the Natives from the nation. The Federalists where also pro-Slaves rights, while the Democrats opposed said rights.

The American removal act of 1791 as it was going to be called was killed 37-31 by the House of Representatives in May 1791. However, states in the South began moving Natives across the Mississippi River, which culminated in The Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, in which the court ruled in favor of the Cherokee, but Georgia continued with the practice until John Adams and Henry Knox enforced Article 4 of the Constitution, which made the Federal government superior to the states, as well as the Court ruling, to dissolve Georgia's militia, replacing it with the national. However, two main leaders defined the upcoming election.

In 1796, America would need a new government. Two men would be the top contenders, and they would shape the course of American history: Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson.

 

[George Washington]

Alright, to anyone watching:

I've noticed more and more no one is commenting, sadly. I would really appreciate some compliments, criticisms, jokes, etc. If not, I can make this fully wiki based.

 

[TheRockofChickamauga]

George Washington, from my experience making my first timeline and being pretty new to the site, you can not expect your timeline to automatically have lots of what you are looking for, especially if you are new to the site. It takes time, and usually a really interesting chapter or idea to get the comment ball rolling. I suggest you keep working with your timeline, and eventually, you will get to attention you are looking for. It may not be this timeline, but eventually you should get the attention you want.

 

[George Washington]

1792, 1793, and 1794 went by in a quick blur, with nothing of global significance. However, two front-runners emerged for the upcoming elections; Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson. The first election began with standard electoral. Delaware voted first, giving its three electoral votes to the Democrat-Republicans. Massachusetts and New Hampshire actually changed everything, giving its electoral votes to the Federalists, reflecting New England. Virginia went for the Democrat-Republicans. Everything went as predicted (except Maryland, which voted Federalist). This was on the Executive Chair. The Constitutional Chair would be the runner up. Many other states gave votes to D-R and F in other offices

Position	Winner	Votes	Loser	Votes
Executive Chair	Thomas Jefferson	49	Alexander Hamilton	34
Constitutional Chair	Alexander Hamilton	N/A	N/A	N/A
Chair of State	John Adams	42	James Madison	41
Chair of Treasury	James Madison	43	John Adams	40
Chair of Justice	John Marshall	83	Unapposed
Chair of Interior	James Monroe	73	Merriweather Lewis	10
Chair of Defense	John Paul Jones	82	George Washington	1