Would be really ironic, if it was one of Wilhelm IIIs kids...
Like Sigi but gone bad.
Like Sigi but gone bad.
How many Lothars do we know? Manfred von Richthofen has a son named Lothar, right? But he seems a bit too old. A grandson maybe?
The situation following the collapse of Austria-Hungary of 1918-19 really needs to be fleshed out. This is my understanding of TTL current borders but an official clarification would be welcome:ITTL What would have been Yugoslavia is a collection of small countries that are constantly scheming against one another and acting as proxies for the regional powers, Hungary, Romania, Greece and Turkey.
- Greece, while not on the winning side of the great war, did quite well post war. From previous posts, Eastern Thrace (including Constantinople) and a good chunk of western Anatolia are Greek owned now. How this was accomplished in the face of Bulgarian, Turkish, and Italian opposition is unknown.
The effect of the First World War taking the turn that it did as well as the collapse of the Ottoman Empire being more complete than IOTL plus the Sykes Picot agreement not playing out have to be factored in. In TTL the Greeks remained neutral due to the events of 1917 and the war was over by the end of that year. In 1919 the Greeks invaded the same way they did in OTL except the Turks didn't have the backing of the Soviet Union because of the Polish War and a large portion of the Turkish army was fighting in Southern Turkey against newly formed Kurdistan.
Not even a bastard son?No relation, Lothar von Richthofen was the disappointing son who managed to drive into the path of a train in 1949.
It also means the german police will start looking like the police that I remember from my teens. Imagine the the traffic checks I had as an 18 yrs old. Two police cars (30/40 meters apart) 2 officers in cover behind a car. 1 officer asking for your ID, his partner covering him 4/5 meters to his side with a clear line of fire, all armed with MP-5's. LOL you bet I was polite and had no sudden movements.
That is not a police.
Yes, but very German, when there was a terror alert / Grossraum Fahndung, everbody knew how too act.That is not a police.
I think that is the best possible guess but I would really love if Lothar was really the bastard son of Whilheim III.
That is not a police.
I guess it could depend on your definition of Police.
It's not what I would expect from Police on the British mainland, even in London where armed police, (sporting a mix of HK416 and MP7 (I think), for example).
I'll be corrected if, (more likely when), I'm wrong, and not sure now it works ITTL, but OTL, doesn't Germany have normal state police, who in turn have their own SWAT teams, then Federal Police who have GSG9, (although I always thought they were part of the Border Guards)?
So in theory they Policemen at the roadblock would be State SWAT rather than Federal or military, but still "just" Police?
That's probably really badly phrased so any confusion here is my fault.
Problem is that the OTL structure is not really applicable since it was shaped by both the Nazis and the response/prevention against them. So drawing any paralell should be done carefully. German police ITL probably works a lot like OTLs american police, but with a greater reliance on the armed forces for "heavy lifiting". In more detail:I guess it could depend on your definition of Police.
It's not what I would expect from Police on the British mainland, even in London where armed police, (sporting a mix of HK416 and MP7 (I think), for example).
I'll be corrected if, (more likely when), I'm wrong, and not sure now it works ITTL, but OTL, doesn't Germany have normal state police, who in turn have their own SWAT teams, then Federal Police who have GSG9, (although I always thought they were part of the Border Guards)?
So in theory they Policemen at the roadblock would be State SWAT rather than Federal or military, but still "just" Police?
That's probably really badly phrased so any confusion here is my fault.
Or, as we used to call it back in the eighties, Tuesday.When you've had twenty odd British paratroopers aiming rifles at your car while one of them checks your parents ID and then confirms it is just two children and personal luggage in the back, come back to me.
What was it? The GSG9 is more likely to shoot dogs than humans? Excepting a few actions close to their founding.Note that even heavily armed German police aren't very likely to shoot innocent people.
Germany has a state police forces that do all the usual police work from traffic stops to murder investigations to SWAT raids (SEKs / MEKs - Special Operational Units / Mobile Operational Units is irc ) and a Federal Police (Bundespolizei) which is responsible for federal tasks like border, train and airport security. GSG9 is a part of the Federal Police. Both are police forces and not military forces.*
*The Federal Police is the successor of the Federal Border Guard which was a para-military unit. It operated as a police force in peace time but was a trained as and supposed to act as light infantry force during a war. The Federal Border Guard was legally a considered a combatant according to the Geneva Convention. After the end of the Cold War the Border Guard transitioned more and more into a more active police role which was then recognized with the new name.