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An idea I had about a world where France unifies Iberia, the Benelux, most of western Germany, and Italy under one crown by the 1600s, becoming what basically amounts to a new Holy Roman Empire, except instead of being ridiculously complex and decentralized, it manages to survive as a unified superstate through to the modern day. Basically, the Bourbons are the new Habsburgs, but without all that intermarrying and incest.

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glenn67 said:
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There’s probably a better pun for it in Russian, but I’m too lazy to actually go and find it.

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German Volkstag (parliament) groups in my Führerreich TL as of 8 October 2019

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I see that the SPD has gone more centrist

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We Stan a steppengrave!
Seriously though, what is the etymology of the title?

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An idea I had about a world where France unifies Iberia, the Benelux, most of western Germany, and Italy under one crown by the 1600s, becoming what basically amounts to a new Holy Roman Empire, except instead of being ridiculously complex and decentralized, it manages to survive as a unified superstate through to the modern day. Basically, the Bourbons are the new Habsburgs, but without all that intermarrying and incest.

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Yikes.
Why do dynastic unions still exist by the way? Also am still wondering how Egypt went ancient again and how the Europeans conquered India and kept it until today.
 
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Hindustani Person said:
Yikes.
Why do dynastic unions still exist by the way? Also am still wondering how Egypt went ancient again and how the Europeans conquered India and kept it until today
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Most of the world's still pretty old-fashioned. There wasn't anything resembling an Enlightenment, and while voting rights have been expanded due to people naturally wanting more representation as better technology has revealed more information to them, said voting rights are still only gained in an obscenely indirect form of democracy in the Estates General (there aren't just three votes anymore, but the EG is still skewed towards favoring the aristocrats and the clergy). Egypt didn't go ancient, it was turned into a puppet state of Europa's in the 1780s and has remained that way until today. But there definitely has been a resurgence of ancient culture there.

The Europans used to control what amounted to the entire British Raj, plus Tibet and Afghanistan, all as one unit, the Europan Raj. In the modern day, northern Hindu and Muslim India have broken away but Dravidian India, the southern tip of the subcontinent, remains under direct Europan control. Numerous port cities along India's coasts are also still owned by Europa, just like with Africa.

In the modern day, imperialism hasn't fallen out of favor. However, most of the world isn't exactly racist anymore--I'd say minorities might even be better off than OTL--but there is an insane degree of ethnocentrism. For instance, an African woman who speaks French flawlessly and dresses in Parisian fashion (as most Africans do, given the long history of Europan colonialism) will have no trouble living and working in Europa. But a white Brit who speaks only flawed French or Spanish in addition to English and dresses in traditionally Japanese clothing will be looked upon with contempt and disgust. This is why everyone learns French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, German, and Dutch from birth, in addition to their own language--so they can blend in. There are a few cultures considered high-class (Europan, Aegyptian, Chinese, Greek, Korean, Californian, etc.) that the world operates within the parameters of.
 
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HeX said:
Most of the world's still pretty old-fashioned. There wasn't anything resembling an Enlightenment, and while voting rights have been expanded due to people naturally wanting more representation as better technology has revealed more information to them, said voting rights are still only gained in an obscenely indirect form of democracy in the Estates General (there aren't just three votes anymore, but the EG is still skewed towards favoring the aristocrats and the clergy). Egypt didn't go ancient, it was turned into a puppet state of Europa's in the 1780s and has remained that way until today. But there definitely has been a resurgence of ancient culture there.

The Europans used to control what amounted to the entire British Raj, plus Tibet and Afghanistan, all as one unit, the Europan Raj. In the modern day, northern Hindu and Muslim India have broken away but Dravidian India, the southern tip of the subcontinent, remains under direct Europan control. Numerous port cities along India's coasts are also still owned by Europa, just like with Africa.

In the modern day, imperialism hasn't fallen out of favor. However, most of the world isn't exactly racist anymore--I'd say minorities might even be better off than OTL--but there is an insane degree of ethnocentrism. For instance, an African woman who speaks French flawlessly and dresses in Parisian fashion (as most Africans do, given the long history of Europan colonialism) will have no trouble living and working in Europa. But a white Brit who speaks only flawed French or Spanish in addition to English and dresses in traditionally Japanese clothing will be looked upon with contempt and disgust. This is why everyone learns French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, German, and Dutch from birth, in addition to their own language--so they can blend in.
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Blursed timeline.

Do more please
 
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TheKutKu said:
Blursed timeline.

Do more please
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I have a map in the works of the Europan Empire at its height in the 1890s (when it controlled about 40% of the Earth's surface) that should come along soon in the Map Thread, as well as a modern day map of the empire around 2019. And I'm thinking of doing more wikiboxes soon...
 
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HeX said:
An idea I had about a world where France unifies Iberia, the Benelux, most of western Germany, and Italy under one crown by the 1600s, becoming what basically amounts to a new Holy Roman Empire, except instead of being ridiculously complex and decentralized, it manages to survive as a unified superstate through to the modern day. Basically, the Bourbons are the new Habsburgs, but without all that intermarrying and incest.

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Fascinating

What is Napoleon VIII the 8th of?
 
Major Crimson

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Fear Nothing But God
Part One: The Great Revolution​



The national character of any people is hard, if not impossible, to sum up in a few short words. Where nations make attempts at this in their national mottos, we often find little bar waffle and pretension. For the men and women of Albion, however, it is in those brief four words that we find the truth of their spirit: “Fear Nothing But God”. A great many Continental and Occidental histories of the Albionic Peoples have been put together, many amounting to little more than propaganda and political smears. Within the Sorority, more astute and fair histories have been told but within our own borders it has been many generations since a complete history of the Commonwealth has been told. This one, it is hoped, will chart the history of our people from Monmouth to Mitford and illuminate their lives.

Despite popular opinion, the revolution was not, from the start, a popular one. General Scott, though now a national hero, was at the start of his rebellion angling to usurp the throne rather than to dismantle its power. Though the diffuse of the Rye House Plans[0] in 1682 had allowed him to evade government suspicion, General Scott (then and sometimes still known as the Duke of Monmouth), travelled to meet his fellow revolutionary leader the Earl of Argyle in Amsterdam in early 1684 where both men assembled a great many arms and small armies of ideological allies, veterans and mercenaries which they would use to form the core of primarily militia forces once to be recruited after their landing in Britain[1]. Scott, a bastard son of Charles II, was originally put forward as a potential new and protestant King and it is to this cause which he dedicated himself until his death. The banner he raised when he landed in England was not a Royalist one however, nor a personal or national sigil. It was a plain green flag (the colour of Levellism and of the reformist Green Ribbon Club) that bore 4 simple words in bright gold; Fear Nothing But God. The phrase would outlive its creator, becoming a motto of the Revolution and the nation long after James Scott was dead.

From the date of his landing in England, Scott met with considerable military success. A victory at the Battle of Bridgewater against over-confident Stuart Generals sent shock-waves through Stuart society and, foolishly trying to disband the Parliament he had called in the Royalist City of Oxford just a year prior, King James II was rebuffed and retreated to London. The Oxford Parliament recognised the threat to them posed by the now all but openly catholic King James and declared him illegitimate. The "Oxford Declaration" bound together Whigish and Radical Parliamentarians to General Scott's Rising, an alliance that would continue with some tension until his death at the Battle of Chiltern Hills. Despite losing their general, the Parliamentarian and Revolutionary Armies were victorious and crushed their foes under the command of the ageing but respected Brigadier Algernon Sidney who would go on to become the primary commander of Revolutionary forces until the War's completion.

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It was supposed by many that the Revolution in the South-West and Argyle's invasion of Western Scotland would be the start of another decades long civil conflict as had occurred in the First Revolution but this was not to be. Charles, through cowardice or miscalculation, fled the country after his defeat at Chiltern Hills and though fighting would continue in Virginia and Ireland until late 1686, his self-exile to Paris all but killed the Stuart cause[2]. Entering London with the revolutionary forces now firmly united behind General Sydney and his chief political ally John Locke, there was a brief debate about finding a new King though before long it became clear that, with two arexists at the helm of the state, the only palatable English candidate dead and mistrust in Parliament of the Netherlander claimant William of Orange[3], a return to a Commonwealth was the only possible outcome and the "Act establishing a Commonwealth" was passed on November 19th, abolishing the English, Irish and Scottish thrones forever. Locke wrote the vast majority of the new Instrument of Government, a constitution with a controversial name but one considerably more liberal than its predecessor. Integrating parts of previous proposed constitutions; the compromise "Heads of Proposals", the more radical "Agreement of the People"[4] and some of Locke's own writings, it made clear the need for regular and democratic elections, the division of power between an elective, term limited Lord President and a powerful, unicameral Parliament. The Instrument was accepted overwhelmingly in the new and revolutionary parliament and though it has seen much revision over the years, particularly during the major restructuring of the Arrovian Reforms, it remains the basis of Albionic government up to this day. Several of the first reforms made by the new government were shocking even a hundred years later, such as the mass expansion of the franchise to all men of property and the abolition of...


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[0] This is the PoD, no Rye House Plot means no opportunity for a Royalist crackdown and no public outpouring of sympathy for the monarchy, meaning Monmouth gets more public support and Parliamentary tensions boil over two or three years earlier than OTL.
[1] Under less suspicion at home, Monmouth has more funds and more men ready to come to his side, allowing his rebellion to get off the ground. Also means Sydney (and others) are not executed.
[2] As in the Glorious Revolution of OTL.
[3] This is an exaggeration, most of Parliament would have actually prefered William over a republic but Sydney is almost as powerful as Cromwell was previously (whilst not being such a megalomaniac/terrible person) and Locke has gained a reputation as the political father of the revolution and, with both advocating a republic, it is too difficult for parliament to oppose.
[4] OTL leveller proposals that impacted the US constitution but were considered too radical for 1646. Here they are accepted almost wholesale, in part due to Locke's own liberalism and in part due to a want to avoid the mistakes of the first Commonwealth and Protectorate.

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Fear Nothing But God:
i.The Great Revolution and the Fraternal Commonwealth
ii. The Irish Revolution and Founding Fathers
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To the Edge and Maybe Over: Part 8
"As we have sought to embark on a new century, America has had to reckon with great difficulty. We went through one of the worst single catastrophes in our nation's history. But under our administration, we have managed to rise from the ashes stronger than before. We have taken the fight to those who would harm our people and our leaders. We have given the people of Iraq and Afghanistan the chance to build a stable, democratic future. We have taken action to combat the scourge of climate change and ensure every American can live in peace and safety. I believe we can continue to triumph if you will give me the honor of serving as your president for four more years."
-President Joe Lieberman at the DNC, June 16, 2004

"We cannot defeat the evil that has fallen on our nation without recognizing what it is. Radical Islam is our enemy-the enemy of America and the world at large. I have seen the evil it is willing to cause firsthand on 9/11 and I will do everything in my power to ensure that Islamic fundamentalism joins communism and fascism in the dustbin of history where it belongs."
-Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the RNC, June 21, 2004

"Jesse's efforts to secure ballot access was unorthodox to say the least. He couldn't follow in Perot's footsteps by relying on a big bank account to get on the ballot as an independent, so he needed to secure party bylines. Getting the support of state Reform Party affiliates was easy-they were eager to have him running under their name. But the strategy of simultaneously pursuing the Libertarian and Green nominations-that was an unusual one. He had backers in both corners-Nader was an early supporter, as was Chairman Neale at the LNC-but a lot of folks on both sides ware wary of Ventura. He got the national parties' support thanks to both sides finding Gravel acceptable, but several state Green and Libertarian Parties selected alternative candidates-L. Neil Smith got the Libertarian byline in Arizona, Alaska, California and a few other states. Meanwhile, David Cobb secured the nominations of several Midwestern and Northwestern Green Parties. But in the end, Ventura/Gravel was on the ballot in every state barring Oklahoma."
-Excerpt from Just Cause: Inside Ventura/Gravel 2004 by Dean Barkley

AGGREGATE POLLING AVERAGE, 2004
LIEBERMAN/KERREY-43.2%
GIULIANI/SANTORUM-42.4%
VENTURA/GRAVEL-11.6%
OTHER/UNDECIDED-4.4%
-RCP Polling Average, August 2004

VENTURA PROTESTS DEBATE EXCLUSION, CITING CPD 'RIGGING'

GIULIANI DOUBLES-DOWN ON IMMIGRATION BAN, CALLING IT 'SECURITY MUST'

PAUL AND KUCINICH STUMP FOR VENTURA AT RALLY IN MICHIGAN

LIEBERMAN VOTED WINNER OF FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE BY FOCUS GROUPS

DATA INDICATES EVANGELICAL SUPPORT FOR GOP AT LOWEST SINCE 1970'S

CAIR ENDORSES LIEBERMAN, ACCUSES GIULIANI OF STOKING ISLAMAPHOBIA

-Headlines of The Washington Post, August-September 2004

"Sir, there's a problem. We can't let you leave this location until we know it's safe."

"Safe? What do you mean?"
-Exchange between a Secret Service agent and President Lieberman, October 3, 2004

SHOOTING AT MARYSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL KILLS 19
-Headline of the Columbus Dispatch, October 3, 2004

"The perpetrator of the shooting was soon identified: Nathan Gale. He had been a student at Marysville in the late 1990's and at the time did not display any particularly dangerous traits. However, afterwards, he had developed a drug addiction, joined the military and gotten discharged after being discovered to have paranoid schizophrenia. In the months before the shooting, he had apparently developed a delusional belief that several of the faculty members at his old high school had brainwashed him into joining the military in the first place and he carried out the shooting as an act of revenge for this perceived wrongdoing.

Gale's actions had wider-reaching consequences than cutting 19 lives short, 16 of them young lives. His massacre was a blow to the credibility of the antiwar movement-not fatal, by any means, but Gale's crude 'manifesto' was critical of the Iraq War and this was seized upon by the Giuliani campaign to denounce antiwar activists as dangerous threats. On the other hand, the fact Gale managed to gain access to a firearm despite being a known criminal with a history of mental illness helped validate the Lieberman administration's policy on gun control."
-Excerpt from the article 'How Marysville Decided 2004', published in The Wall Street Journal, October 3, 2006

"Of course I agree with Lieberman that this horrific tragedy demonstrates the need for gun control, but it is also important to note the shooter's background also includes an infatuation with heavy metal. This kind of music indulges in violent rhetoric and I don't doubt for a second that listening to it so regularly helped push Gale over the edge. This is not the first time this sort of media has driven people to commit atrocities-the murderers at Columbine were similarly infatuated with metal and violent video games. I think it's important for Lieberman not to overlook these factors in his push to prevent future mass shootings."
-Senator Tipper Gore, October 8, 2004 as quoted in the One Nation, Under Censorship documentary released in 2008

"Honestly, I'm not sure there is such a thing as 'moderate Islam.' You either want Sharia or you don't, there is no in-between."
-Senator Rick Santorum in leaked audio released on October 28, 2004

"It is fitting it is so close to Halloween, as what Santorum has said is deeply scary. As a proud American Jew, I understand the importance of preserving religious freedom in this country. It is a foundational principle of this country and I am deeply concerned by Santorum's apparent disregard for the principle."
-President Joe Lieberman, October 28, 2004

"In the end, the events of October turned the race from a tossup to a foregone conclusion. Giuliani never quite got a handle on how to respond to the Marysville shooting and the shooter's antiwar views harmed Ventura's efforts to disrupt the race. While he still performed well for a third-party candidate, his final percentage was a far cry from the double-digits he was hoping for. Coupled with Santorum's gaffe, Lieberman won by a hefty margin.

Lieberman's reelection victory, unfortunately for him, was one of the last triumphs of his administration. The next four years would not be kind to him or his reputation."
-Excerpt from The Accidental Presidents by Matthew Beckmann, published 2015

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