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Imperator Frank

Imperator Frank

After more than half a decade with having Paint.NET installed, i've finally figured out how to make angled words :p
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Minchandre

Domen said:
United States of Native Americans, carved out of areas with high Native population:

- two Pacific Ocean ports
- access to the Great Lakes
- access to Canadian border
- access to Mexican border

Non-Hispanic whites would be less than half of the total population in this country.
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I'm not sure that "North-south from the Canadian to the Mexican border" quite counts as "transcontinental" for your railroad.

And where's Alsace-Lorraine?
 

B_Munro

TheKutKu said:
First a disclaimer before posting the map: this was originaly done for the MOTF 203 about Pan-Nationalist maps, but i didn't have the time to finish, the map then languished for nearly a month on my laptop until a few days ago.
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Why are European loins always so more fertile in these scenarios than in reality? Africa is not the US frontier.
 

Blacklister

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Luck to the Max

Ireland revolts during the English Civil War, successfully establishing a united Irish republic in 1686. The young nation successfully wrestles Scotland and Wales out of English hands by 1750, and the Irish navy developed to be on par with that of the English, initiating a 19th-century naval arms race between the two. The Potato Famine, as a result of early industrialization, is butterflied away. The United States fails to defend against neocolonialism as it is picked apart by European powers. Russia takes advantage of the Anglo-Celtic rivalry and the absence of the American threat, expanding even further than it did in OTL. Mesoamerica becomes a playground for Irish exploitation. In 1920, the balance of power is determined by two major blocs. On the Irish side are Spain, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, France, Romania, and Poland. On the English side are Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Hungary, Portugal, Sweden, and Austria. The peace is currently kept, however, a shoe may drop any time sooner or later, and this cold war is about to get hot...​
 
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Ireland revolts during the English Civil War, successfully establishing a united Irish republic in 1686. The young nation successfully wrestles Scotland and Wales out of English hands by 1750, and the Irish navy developed to be on par with that of the English, initiating a 19th-century naval arms race between the two. The Potato Famine, as a result of early industrialization, is butterflied away. The United States fails to defend against neocolonialism as it is picked apart by European powers. Russia takes advantage of the Anglo-Celtic rivalry and the absence of the American threat, expanding even further than it did in OTL. Mesoamerica becomes a playground for Irish exploitation. In 1920, the balance of power is determined by two major blocs. On the Irish side are Spain, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, France, Romania, and Poland. On the English side are Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Hungary, Portugal, Sweden, and Austria. The peace is currently kept, however, a shoe may drop any time sooner or later, and this cold war is about to get hot...​
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That's a hell of a lot of convergent borders for something diverging in 1686.
 
HeX

HeX

Blacklister3000 said:
Westward expansion, slavery compromises, Civil War happen as OTL, but US is unable to recover from Civil War and pay off debts to European powers, and eventually collapses after a socialist agrarian revolution in the 1890s.
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But your POD is in 1686. And the Irish taking over Scotland and Wales in 1750 will have huge butterfly effects on things that wouldn't happen for another twenty-six years IOTL, namely, the American Revolution, which involved the British... just a little bit.

You'd be lucky to even come out with something resembling the United States, much less the actual thing still existing.
 

Bleh

Blacklister3000 said:
England and France still fight in the Seven Years War, except Ireland is on the side of France, Ireland supports the American Revolution. Napoleon still comes to power, Latin American revolutions still persist, there is still the Industrial Revolution, except it is Ireland that takes the place of England as the global superpower.
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Napoleon probably shouldn't even be born, let alone come to power in France.
 
Oliveia

Oliveia

Blacklister3000 said:
England and France still fight in the Seven Years War, except Ireland is on the side of France, Ireland supports the American Revolution. Napoleon still comes to power, Latin American revolutions still persist, there is still the Industrial Revolution, except it is Ireland that takes the place of England as the global superpower.
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I mean, the chances of the United States using the exact same grid system to create exactly the same states where rivers bisect it is really unlikely.
Doesn't help that a lot of the United States was anti-Catholic (even in the lead-up to the Seven Years' War). France was an exception (the enemy of my enemy was my friend), but I think Ireland might've been pushing it tbh.
 
wildviper121

wildviper121

Bennett said:
I mean, the chances of the United States using the exact same grid system to create exactly the same states where rivers bisect it is really unlikely.
Doesn't help that a lot of the United States was anti-Catholic (even in the lead-up to the Seven Years' War). France was an exception (the enemy of my enemy was my friend), but I think Ireland might've been pushing it tbh.
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Are you saying that Ireland wouldn't have supported a major geopolitical disaster for their greatest enemy because they'd be supporting a country that was anti-Catholic? The period you're talking about is rife with cross-religious alliances of convenience. You've just mentioned one too. Religion was declining as a reason to fight wars in the 18th century. Ireland backing the American Revolution to harm England makes sense.
 
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